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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2011, 08:50:30 PM »
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    Ah, there goes my cat-and-mouse game.  

    It's not Hobson.  I was thinking more along the lines of the person or group of people who are behind the character known as Pope Augustine.  He / they seem to take on various personae, various characters.  That is why I was pointing out the discrepancies of tone in his posts.

    But if this is Pope Augustine, he is very tricky and you have to be extremely careful not to walk into a trap.  For instance, Pope Augustine posted an explicit picture of a naked woman, and then when I said something, he erased it.  Therefore, this could easily have made people think I was a pervert spreading rumors, that I was seeing naked ladies in my imagination.  But Matthew fortunately saw the drawing and kicked him off.

    Likewise, if I accuse someone of being Pope Augustine, he could play the innocent, and try to turn it around on me and make me look paranoid and crazy.  So I was going very slow with the dubious Rescued By Mary.


    Wasnt it "GreatMonarch" who was doing that? Pope Gus was someone else. From what I can tell, RBM's posting style isnt like that of Gus's.
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    « Reply #31 on: February 14, 2011, 09:48:49 PM »
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  • I think Pope Augustine and the Great Monarch blended together in my mind, but you're right Samurai, they may be two different strains.

    How does anyone here know that Pope Augustine is named "Gus," who here is on a first-name basis with this character?  Has someone actually met the man?

    Rescued by Mary reminded me of the guy who runs the romancatholicism.org website, due to the Jansenist theme.  The difference is that he was against Jansenism rather than in favor of it.  But if this is all an elaborate joke, that means nothing.  

    I just figured that somehow that site was involved with Augustine / Monarch, and that Augustine / Monarch were mocking the Angelic Pastor / Great Monarch prophecies.  Maybe it's not.  I don't know who is who, I just know there are lots of weirdos floating around.

    Look at how Rescued by Mary started off with this elaborate, pseudo-scholarly essay and then, a day later, was spelling everything wrong and coming off like an amateur:  "Er, who, what is traditionalism, what is Siri, what is a sede?"  It came off as very phony.

    I think there is someone or a group of someones out there who is playing various characters, like a chameleonic actor, just messing around with this site and with trads in general.
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    « Reply #32 on: February 15, 2011, 12:24:15 AM »
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    In the last couple days we have had yourself and "Hobbledehoy" who have come out of the blue and unspooled these long, erudite but slightly odd rants.  I draw no conclusions.  I'm just pointing something out.


    I'm really sorry if I have given you and others this impression.
    Please ignore all that I have written regarding sedevacantism.

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    « Reply #33 on: February 15, 2011, 02:01:18 AM »
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  • Sorry Hobbles, that was rude.  Your posts are neither rants nor are they necessarily odd.  All that is odd is that you came out of nowhere with very elaborate and scholarly posts.  
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    « Reply #34 on: February 15, 2011, 02:10:04 AM »
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  • I hope you don't mind that I use the diminutive of your name :wink:
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    « Reply #35 on: February 15, 2011, 01:58:08 PM »
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    I think Pope Augustine and the Great Monarch blended together in my mind, but you're right Samurai, they may be two different strains.

    How does anyone here know that Pope Augustine is named "Gus," who here is on a first-name basis with this character?  Has someone actually met the man?

    Rescued by Mary reminded me of the guy who runs the romancatholicism.org website, due to the Jansenist theme.  The difference is that he was against Jansenism rather than in favor of it.  But if this is all an elaborate joke, that means nothing.  

    I just figured that somehow that site was involved with Augustine / Monarch, and that Augustine / Monarch were mocking the Angelic Pastor / Great Monarch prophecies.  Maybe it's not.  I don't know who is who, I just know there are lots of weirdos floating around.

    Look at how Rescued by Mary started off with this elaborate, pseudo-scholarly essay and then, a day later, was spelling everything wrong and coming off like an amateur:  "Er, who, what is traditionalism, what is Siri, what is a sede?"  It came off as very phony.

    I think there is someone or a group of someones out there who is playing various characters, like a chameleonic actor, just messing around with this site and with trads in general.


    If Matthew says that RBM is David Hobson then that must be who he is. "Pope" Gus had a somewhat different posting style, though one thing that Gus and RBM did have in common was that they were both abrupt. I didn't take this person's story seriously, and I had a pretty strong hunch that he was someone who signed up with another account after he said that you were a mocker. No person would have been albe to say that just from looking at one post, so he obviously had seen your posts before. And really, you are NOT a mocker. I don't call telling off these crazy people that sometimes sign up here mocking, I call it being smart.  :wink:

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    « Reply #36 on: February 15, 2011, 02:02:07 PM »
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    How does anyone here know that Pope Augustine is named "Gus," who here is on a first-name basis with this character?


    I believe it was RC who called him Gus -- I took it as being short for A...GUS...tine...
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    « Reply #37 on: February 15, 2011, 02:07:15 PM »
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  • Strictly speaking, it doesn't matter if he was Pope Augustine or David Hobson. Either way, he's banned.

    This latest member's irreverent phrases toward Our Lady were not appreciated.

    I am devoted to the Blessed Virgin Mary. That's why I was especially quick to ban "4ourlady" as well. When they bring Mary into their nonsense, I don't have much patience for it.

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    « Reply #38 on: February 15, 2011, 07:43:07 PM »
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  • I think Commonitory was probably David Hobson.    

    I cede to Catholic Samurai and I think he's right that I'm confusing the Great Monarch with Augustine, though they may be from the same mold.  

    I may have special insight into the Monarch person / group because I have reason to believe that whoever this spook is, he has an interest in me in particular, for whatever reason.  Little clues are dropped that suggest he knows things about me, and he constantly makes fun of the Great Monarch prophecies in a subtle way, which are my bread-and-butter.  But I can never say anything because it's all so subtle and sneaky that it would make me sound like I was a paranoid freak to bring it up.

    It's the same thing with the devil all the time.  I don't talk about it on the site, because people would think I'm crazy, but I have been harassed by the devil in a way that I've never heard of in all the annals of the saints.  I'm not saying I'm a saint, mind you.  On the contrary, I think by paying me so much attention he's trying to blow up my ego and make me start thinking of myself as special.  And as soon as I start thinking that, that's when I won't even have a chance to be, since God only raises the lowly.
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    « Reply #39 on: February 15, 2011, 08:01:56 PM »
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    No person would have been albe to say that just from looking at one post, so he obviously had seen your posts before.


    Thanks for noticing -- that could be one example of what I'm talking about.
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    « Reply #40 on: February 15, 2011, 08:19:41 PM »
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  • I should probably open a new thread about this subject of paranoia, because it may help some people.  I know I'm not the only one who has been attacked this way, since the conspiracy theorist crowd talk about being "targeted individuals," meaning that complete strangers will often come up to them and say things suggesting they know intimate details about their lives.

    I have a religious spin on all this, as you might expect.  The devil wants to make people paranoid because paranoia leads to mistrust, mistrust leads to the freezing of charity, and this of course is death to the soul.  Look at how William Cooper ended up, people like that.  That is why Hollywood makes films like They Live, it leads to an isolationist, paranoiac stance.  

    So maybe, in our lives, we will meet with a handful of people who, inspired by the arch-fiend of the universe, will have the power of suggestion and will know how to play with our minds.
    So what?

    What is crucial to understand is that, though I believe such people do exist, they are not and never can be the majority.  But if this happens to you enough, if you have reason to believe that you are "targeted," you can easily start to see everyone as part of some gigantic plot.  You will have no charitable interpretation of any action or any word that is said to you.  This leads to massive egotism and the notion that you are a hero in a world of monsters.  And that is when you yourself become the monster.

    It's really a perfect way to trick certain people, because certain people, due to pride, are already predisposed to think that way ( including myself ).  The only solution to this attack is humility, and seeing your brother as BETTER than yourself.  That is what has helped me.

    In my life I have often found that what at first seemed like a battle with the devil, was in reality only a battle with my own pride... Which was being played like a violin by the devil.  Interesting, eh?  Everything comes down to pride vs. humility, is what I'm beginning to comprehend.  The more you exalt God while humbling yourself, the more clearly you will see, and the less you can be tricked.

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    « Reply #41 on: February 15, 2011, 10:31:46 PM »
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    Sorry Hobbles, that was rude.  Your posts are neither rants nor are they necessarily odd.  All that is odd is that you came out of nowhere with very elaborate and scholarly posts.


    Thank you for your benign words, Raoul76. However, your remark is almost preternatural in its accuracy. What is somewhat unnerving is that I myself did not realize it until late last night.
     
    There is in fact a fairly odd story behind my sudden appearance. Here is a summary of it in the form of a chronological list:

    1) I saw that RBM was banned and I saw my member-name mentioned in this thread.

    2) I got curious regarding the banned members of this forum and why they are banned.

    3) Seeing the list of member names, I came across a name that was very familiar: "Glastonbury." I read his posts and I suddenly remembered that I wrote them. I remember when I left the Fisheaters' forum on August of 2006 (with a somewhat quizzical farewell, and then the moderatress decided to ban sedevacantists right after I left) and joined this forum shortly thereafter.

    4) I suddenly realized that I have been on this forum all along as Glastonbury but did not remember. But I do not know what email address I used to register, nor do I remember my password. This is because when I was a college student I made some ten different disposable email addresses (which I used to store assignments and documents as attachments in emails to myself: a free substitute for a memory flash drives). Most of those email addresses are either deleted or their passwords have been forgotten over the last half decade. I do not remember why I suddenly stopped posting on this forum the same month I joined. It was probably when my computer broke (and all the information stored in it was lost) and I had to get a laptop. The fact that I had so many assignments and reading lists as a Literature major may also explain the matter.

    5) Almost four and a half years and two different laptops later, I began reading the forum after the SGG controversies broke out, and then again at the death of the late Abbot Father Leonard Giardina, OSB. I joined the forum completely forgetful of the fact that I was already a member. Even if I had realized it, I would have been able to log in.

    So, Raoul, you were more correct than you and I had realized in saying that my appearance was "odd." This is so embarrassing, but I thought it best to honestly state the fact as soon as possible in an open and frank manner.

    Post script: Yes, you can use the diminutive of the name. "Call me anything but collect," is what I heard from older folks sometimes.
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    « Reply #42 on: February 15, 2011, 10:41:29 PM »
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    [ "Call me anything but collect,"


     :laugh1:
    new to me : )
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    « Reply #43 on: February 16, 2011, 08:08:20 AM »
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    I banned "RescuedbyMary" for being David Hobson.

    David Hobson has had SEVERAL accounts here in the past; no less than 3:
    Ultramontane, scholasticism and Gortan.

    I have my reasons for believing they are one and the same.

    Matthew


    It seems like he could play this game for a long, long time.  After all, IP & MAC addresses can be manipulated ad nauseam.  Have you ever considered something like a "silent ban"?  My idea would be to put him on a "group ignore" list based upon the IP address that he is coming from or his User Id.  When he visits the forum, even as a guest, he would see his posts, but none of us (who are, of course, coming from different IPs) would see anything that he wrote or even have any indication that he posted anything.  Banning based upon geography (all IPs from a certain location) is, of course, risky, and I assume that you do not do that, as legitimate users could be blocked, but other than that (or not accepting new users), he could go on "forever" (or, until he dies and goes to Hell.)

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    « Reply #44 on: November 03, 2012, 10:47:42 PM »
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  • Looks like he's back today.

    I have a feeling it will be a short-lived revival.
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