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Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: RescuedByMary on February 13, 2011, 02:00:12 PM
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Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Emerentiana on February 13, 2011, 02:08:26 PM
Great, inspirational story!  Welcome to the forum, RBM :dancing:
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: RescuedByMary on February 13, 2011, 02:15:40 PM
This happened to me.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 13, 2011, 04:44:13 PM
Rescued by Mary said:
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Finally, as She reaches out to grab him by the hand, he looks up to notice Her sleeves are rolled up, revealing Her powerful forearms and weather beaten hands. He realizes whoever this Woman is, She’s been doing this for a long time. As She clasps him tightly, he looks up and realizes - it’s Mary!!


Are you confusing the Virgin Mary with Popeye the Sailorman?
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: RescuedByMary on February 13, 2011, 05:28:39 PM
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Rescued by Mary said:
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Finally, as She reaches out to grab him by the hand, he looks up to notice Her sleeves are rolled up, revealing Her powerful forearms and weather beaten hands. He realizes whoever this Woman is, She’s been doing this for a long time. As She clasps him tightly, he looks up and realizes - it’s Mary!!


Are you confusing the Virgin Mary with Popeye the Sailorman?


No:  Rosie the Riveter - That's my Mary

RbM
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on February 13, 2011, 05:30:04 PM
I think Raoul said that because he does not belive this really happened to you. And with all due respect, neither do I.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 13, 2011, 05:40:50 PM
That should appeal to the patriots but it's not the image that personally I have of Mary, maybe I'm crazy.

In the last couple days we have had yourself and "Hobbledehoy" who have come out of the blue and unspooled these long, erudite but slightly odd rants.  I draw no conclusions.  I'm just pointing something out.

I feel a bit more at my ease when the person who is giving lectures about Jansenism and Erasmus and so on is known to the forum first.  I'm not the moderator and I can't tell you how to comport yourself, but that is my advice.  

Like I know the personality of Matthew, or Myrna, or Emerentiana, or St. Jude Thaddeus, or Telesphorus, or Eamon Shea, or even David Hobson.  But when someone comes on and starts pontificating and they seem very vague, it doesn't really draw me in.    

Something about just bursting onto the site with a vague story of being "rescued by Mary" is pretty weird.  Obviously Mary didn't pull you out of the ocean, you're using a metaphor.  Maybe it would help to know what kind of life you were living that she really rescued you from.  
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: RescuedByMary on February 13, 2011, 05:43:27 PM
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I think Raoul said that because he does not belive this really happened to you. And with all due respect, neither do I.


You do not speak for Raoul, sir.  Raoul said what he said because he is a mocker.

And you?  Faith beleiveth all things...

RbM
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: RescuedByMary on February 13, 2011, 06:52:40 PM
Quote from: Raoul76
That should appeal to the patriots but it's not the image that personally I have of Mary, maybe I'm crazy.

In the last couple days we have had yourself and "Hobbledehoy" who have come out of the blue and unspooled these long, erudite but slightly odd rants.  I draw no conclusions.  I'm just pointing something out.

I feel a bit more at my ease when the person who is giving lectures about Jansenism and Erasmus and so on is known to the forum first.  I'm not the moderator and I can't tell you how to comport yourself, but that is my advice.  

Like I know the personality of Matthew, or Myrna, or Emerentiana, or St. Jude Thaddeus, or Telesphorus, or Eamon Shea, or even David Hobson.  But when someone comes on and starts pontificating and they seem very vague, it doesn't really draw me in.    

Something about just bursting onto the site with a vague story of being "rescued by Mary" is pretty weird.  Obviously Mary didn't pull you out of the ocean, you're using a metaphor.  Maybe it would help to know what kind of life you were living that she really rescued you from.  



Doesn't draw you in, huh?  Hmm...  O.K.

You're crazy, but I'm weird.  Oh hey - I'm RbM


Could you help me?  I see where you made reference to David Hobson from Today's Catholic World, right??

I just found his Web Site today which somehow led me here, not really sure how.  All of the anti-vatican II theology that has been developed is new to me.  I think I realize that this message board is dedicated to those who reject the Pope in Rome, etc.

There seems to be a lot of jockying for position.  I've only been at this for a couple of days so I only know about the Dimond brothers and Pope Michael and the Red Pope.

Could you just give me a run down on all of the theories that have been developed over the years - Salette eclipse - sedavanwhatever - etc.

I not to familiar with the rules of engagement either.  Not trying to hurt anybody's fellings.  I was a protestant street preacher for years and accustomed to ripping people new ones - pretty caustic.

I have been Rescued by Mary.  This happened.

RbM

Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 14, 2011, 12:28:54 AM
You're right, I shouldn't make mocking jokes.  That's the speciality of El Diablo.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 14, 2011, 12:29:51 AM
So you're saying you're rescued by Mary from Protestant street-preaching, is that it?
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: RescuedByMary on February 14, 2011, 08:44:06 AM
Oh hey,

I'm just trying to get a hande on what's going on, that's all.

You know the whole Vatacin II thing and all the groups that have poped up as a result.  Especially the Pope Red Gregory XVII

He was eleced with "white smoke" as I understand it.  Is this what you people here believe??  I had no idea that this even happened.

Could someone just help me to identify all of the principle players involved witgh all of this?  That's not asking to much is it..

I mean I see all these various boards on line of Catholic people and I don't understand what's going on, really.

I started out on catholic.com and got banned.  At the time I didn't know about any other people who claimed to be catholic that didn't follow the pope.  People are saying it's a sin to go to Mass.  We go every day.  Latin on Sunday because we can.

Anyway, I'll move along if things aren't working out, O.K.

RbM
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: TKGS on February 14, 2011, 10:56:01 AM
Might I suggest that you lurk for a little while to see what's going on.  I'm not sure how you came to the conclusions that you have come to based on this topic.  Read through the topics as you wish, even comment upon them when you wish.  But don't decide that the entire forum is made up of a bunch of fruitcakes because the first people to read your post didn't understand what it was all about.

Frankly, I didn't really understand your post either.  We don't usually see stories such as this just come in out of the blue.

As for what kind of forum this is, you have to read through the posts, make sure you read the rules and user agreements and you'll get along just fine as long as you're respectful.  The forum owner is not a sedevacantist though he allows sedevacantists to respectfully comment.

By the way, there are not any Catholics who don't "follow the pope", as you say, though there are quite a number of Catholics who simply can't accept the theory that Benedict XVI is the pope.  

The people who say it is a sin to attend Holy Mass have been branded on this forum as "home-aloners" and they are not welcome on the forum according to the posting guidelines.  You must have read some older posts.

Whatever your background, I would think you are welcome on this forum, but leave your Protestant street preacher ways behind.  The Catholic Religion is based both on faith and reason.  If your argument is based solely on one or the other, I think you'll have trouble on any forum--even Conciliar forums, because they have neither.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: RescuedByMary on February 14, 2011, 11:25:14 AM
Quote from: TKGS
Might I suggest that you lurk for a little while to see what's going on.  I'm not sure how you came to the conclusions that you have come to based on this topic.  Read through the topics as you wish, even comment upon them when you wish.  But don't decide that the entire forum is made up of a bunch of fruitcakes because the first people to read your post didn't understand what it was all about.

Frankly, I didn't really understand your post either.  We don't usually see stories such as this just come in out of the blue.

As for what kind of forum this is, you have to read through the posts, make sure you read the rules and user agreements and you'll get along just fine as long as you're respectful.  The forum owner is not a sedevacantist though he allows sedevacantists to respectfully comment.

By the way, there are not any Catholics who don't "follow the pope", as you say, though there are quite a number of Catholics who simply can't accept the theory that Benedict XVI is the pope.  

The people who say it is a sin to attend Holy Mass have been branded on this forum as "home-aloners" and they are not welcome on the forum according to the posting guidelines.  You must have read some older posts.

Whatever your background, I would think you are welcome on this forum, but leave your Protestant street preacher ways behind.  The Catholic Religion is based both on faith and reason.  If your argument is based solely on one or the other, I think you'll have trouble on any forum--even Conciliar forums, because they have neither.


Conciliar? What is conciliar?  Who are the conciliar people?

sedevacantist -  That means the Chair is empty?  There is no Pope at all right now?  The "owner" of the fourm?  This forum is owned by one fella??  Please just help me to understand what's what.


You say that you don't believe that Benedict XVI is the Pope?  Why not.  Who is the Pope than?

Is Hobson a "home aloner" as you say?  Is he the one not welcome here because he says not to go Mass at a Vatican II Church??  Hobson says that there is a Pope somewhere and he tells people where to go to valid Masses, right??

Is this board an anti-vatican II board?  What are ya'll?

I'm just asking.  If one does not believe in Vatican II than how could they in good conscience go to Mass there?  Do you all go to Mass at vatican II Churches?

A board of fruitcakes?  I never thought such a thing at all.  I guess it depends where you stand on Vatican II as to who the fruitcakes are.  

The Kellogs Church - Nuts fruits and flakes.

I'm not judging anybody I'm just trying to understand who's who and why.  Hobson's down on SSPX.  Your down on Hobson.  I'm struggling..

Sir - Who is your Pope?  Thank you so much


Have you accepted Mary as your Personal Mother ?

RbM

P.S.   I shall lurk

Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 14, 2011, 12:31:02 PM
Rescued by Mary said:
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The roots of this phenomenon can be traced back to a grave yard where is buried a deacon; a disciple of Cornelius Jansen. What Jansen is most famous for is his treaties entitled “Augustinus” which he left for publication upon his death, after spending some twenty years of his life in its preparation. In it he readdresses the age old argument between Augustine and Pelagius in his attempt to dismantle the theology of the Jesuits and justify his rebellion against Rome in establishing the “old catholic church” in the Netherlands. His writings which have come to be known as Jansenism have been condemned as heretical by the Church.


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sedevacantist -  That means the Chair is empty?  There is no Pope at all right now?  The "owner" of the fourm?  This forum is owned by one fella??  Please just help me to understand what's what.

You say that you don't believe that Benedict XVI is the Pope?  Why not.  Who is the Pope than?

Is Hobson a "home aloner" as you say?  Is he the one not welcome here because he says not to go Mass at a Vatican II Church??  Hobson says that there is a Pope somewhere and he tells people where to go to valid Masses, right??

Is this board an anti-vatican II board?  What are ya'll?


Reading these posts back-to-back, they seem almost as if they were written by two different people.

So you are intimately aware of the struggles of the Church at the time of Jansen, much like the guy who runs the bizarre romancatholicism.org website.  Yet you are at a loss when it comes to sedevacantism and traditionalism, these things are completely foreign to you?

If you want to know a little about how the people on the site think, a half-hour browsing the boards should inform you.  If you want to know about sedevacantism, you can research it using Google.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Alex on February 14, 2011, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: RescuedByMary


No:  Rosie the Riveter - That's my Mary

RbM


This is your Mary?!! That's messed up.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on February 14, 2011, 01:22:35 PM
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I think Raoul said that because he does not belive this really happened to you. And with all due respect, neither do I.


You do not speak for Raoul, sir.  Raoul said what he said because he is a mocker.

And you?  Faith beleiveth all things...

RbM


I'm beginning to agree with Raoul that RBM is someone with a different account. You just joined yesterday, so how do you know that Raoul is a mocker just from seeing only one of his posts? As far as believing this story of yours, a line must be drawn between what we should and should not believe on the internet. And I am sorry, but to see a person come out with a story that seems more like it was taken out of a book of poems and just edited to not rhyme is not convincing.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: RescuedByMary on February 14, 2011, 01:23:49 PM
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No:  Rosie the Riveter - That's my Mary

RbM


This is your Mary?!! That's messed up.



Oh, come on man.  

Are we not allowed any literary license around here.

Get off my thread, man!
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: gladius_veritatis on February 14, 2011, 01:26:29 PM
Tool bag  :whistleblower:
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: RescuedByMary on February 14, 2011, 01:30:23 PM
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Rescued by Mary said:
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The roots of this phenomenon can be traced back to a grave yard where is buried a deacon; a disciple of Cornelius Jansen. What Jansen is most famous for is his treaties entitled “Augustinus” which he left for publication upon his death, after spending some twenty years of his life in its preparation. In it he readdresses the age old argument between Augustine and Pelagius in his attempt to dismantle the theology of the Jesuits and justify his rebellion against Rome in establishing the “old catholic church” in the Netherlands. His writings which have come to be known as Jansenism have been condemned as heretical by the Church.


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sedevacantist -  That means the Chair is empty?  There is no Pope at all right now?  The "owner" of the fourm?  This forum is owned by one fella??  Please just help me to understand what's what.

You say that you don't believe that Benedict XVI is the Pope?  Why not.  Who is the Pope than?

Is Hobson a "home aloner" as you say?  Is he the one not welcome here because he says not to go Mass at a Vatican II Church??  Hobson says that there is a Pope somewhere and he tells people where to go to valid Masses, right??

Is this board an anti-vatican II board?  What are ya'll?


Reading these posts back-to-back, they seem almost as if they were written by two different people.

So you are intimately aware of the struggles of the Church at the time of Jansen, much like the guy who runs the bizarre romancatholicism.org website.  Yet you are at a loss when it comes to sedevacantism and traditionalism, these things are completely foreign to you?

If you want to know a little about how the people on the site think, a half-hour browsing the boards should inform you.  If you want to know about sedevacantism, you can research it using Google.


Like I said - What I have written is a result of a year of so of study and reading about Church history.  It si entirely possible for someone to learn what I have learned as a rseult of this and to not have learned what I am asking question about - which is the truth, sir.  Sorry for asking.

No they arte not totally foreign to me, however I have not been able to continue my stedies because of a disability that has caused a lot of pain - over a year and a half now.  Therefore I am behind the curve somewhat.  I am an honest person.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on February 14, 2011, 01:36:17 PM
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No:  Rosie the Riveter - That's my Mary

RbM


This is your Mary?!! That's messed up.



Oh, come on man.  

Are we not allowed any literary license around here.

Get off my thread, man!


Anyone can post on your thread unless Matthew instructs them not to.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: RescuedByMary on February 14, 2011, 01:42:00 PM
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I think Raoul said that because he does not belive this really happened to you. And with all due respect, neither do I.


You do not speak for Raoul, sir.  Raoul said what he said because he is a mocker.

And you?  Faith beleiveth all things...

RbM


I'm beginning to agree with Raoul that RBM is someone with a different account. You just joined yesterday, so how do you know that Raoul is a mocker just from seeing only one of his posts? As far as believing this story of yours, a line must be drawn between what we should and should not believe on the internet. And I am sorry, but to see a person come out with a story that seems more like it was taken out of a book of poems and just edited to not rhyme is not convincing.


Raoul has arleady repented of mocking me in case you haven't noticed there, uh, selfrighteousspiritsantified

It is my poem! I wrote it from my heart! About my Mary!

Got a problem with that?  I think that Rosie the Riveter might just have represented the work ethic of Joseph's wife a whole lot there fella.  Take a close look at that picure.  There's nothing unholy and unbecoming about it.  Could have been Mary while She was on earth.  Not now of course - but back then she could probably take you down seeing what She did at Lapatano...
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 14, 2011, 01:45:10 PM
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Like I said - What I have written is a result of a year of so of study and reading about Church history.  It si entirely possible for someone to learn what I have learned as a rseult of this and to not have learned what I am asking question about - which is the truth, sir.  Sorry for asking.


Yes, it's possible.  And if it's possible for you, within the space of a year, to learn in-depth details about Jansenism and about Molinism and Jesuits and so on, I'd say that with your skill in research, you are not in need of my help to learn about sedevacantism and the Siri theory, but can simply browse this site as well as others that speak of these topics.  It should take very little time to understand.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on February 14, 2011, 01:49:18 PM
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I think Raoul said that because he does not belive this really happened to you. And with all due respect, neither do I.


You do not speak for Raoul, sir.  Raoul said what he said because he is a mocker.

And you?  Faith beleiveth all things...

RbM


I'm beginning to agree with Raoul that RBM is someone with a different account. You just joined yesterday, so how do you know that Raoul is a mocker just from seeing only one of his posts? As far as believing this story of yours, a line must be drawn between what we should and should not believe on the internet. And I am sorry, but to see a person come out with a story that seems more like it was taken out of a book of poems and just edited to not rhyme is not convincing.


Raoul has arleady repented of mocking me in case you haven't noticed there, uh, selfrighteousspiritsantified

It is my poem! I wrote it from my heart! About my Mary!

Got a problem with that?  I think that Rosie the Riveter might just have represented the work ethic of Joseph's wife a whole lot there fella.  Take a close look at that picure.  There's nothing unholy and unbecoming about it.  Could have been Mary while She was on earth.  Not now of course - but back then she could probably take you down seeing what She did at Lapatano...


You are committing a blesphemy if you really think Mary looked anything like the girl in that picture. You may have written that story but it doesn't mean there is any truth to it. I'm still not buying it.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 14, 2011, 01:51:23 PM
Rescued by Mary said:
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I think that Rosie the Riveter might just have represented the work ethic of Joseph's wife a whole lot there fella.


I'm not sure that knitting or carrying a small child has the same effect on the forearms as operating heavy machinery.

How about Marianne, the symbol of the French Revolution?  Could one say that she represented the intelligence of Mary?  Sure, because one could say anything.  But you are virtually alone, I would gather, in picturing the Virgin Mary in this fashion.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Matthew on February 14, 2011, 01:57:57 PM
I banned "RescuedbyMary" for being David Hobson.

David Hobson has had SEVERAL accounts here in the past; no less than 3:
Ultramontane, scholasticism and Gortan.

I have my reasons for believing they are one and the same.

Matthew
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on February 14, 2011, 02:00:13 PM
Good ban, Matthew. I didn't take that post very seriously when I saw him claim it happened to him.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: gladius_veritatis on February 14, 2011, 02:04:02 PM
Quote from: Matthew
David Hobson has had SEVERAL accounts here in the past; no less than 3:
Ultramontane, scholasticism and Gortan.


4ourlady, too.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 14, 2011, 02:05:50 PM
Ah, there goes my cat-and-mouse game.  

It's not Hobson.  I was thinking more along the lines of the person or group of people who are behind the character known as Pope Augustine.  He / they seem to take on various personae, various characters.  That is why I was pointing out the discrepancies of tone in his posts.

But if this is Pope Augustine, he is very tricky and you have to be extremely careful not to walk into a trap.  For instance, Pope Augustine posted an explicit picture of a naked woman, and then when I said something, he erased it.  Therefore, this could easily have made people think I was a pervert spreading rumors, that I was seeing naked ladies in my imagination.  But Matthew fortunately saw the drawing and kicked him off.

Likewise, if I accuse someone of being Pope Augustine, he could play the innocent, and try to turn it around on me and make me look paranoid and crazy.  So I was going very slow with the dubious Rescued By Mary.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: TKGS on February 14, 2011, 03:55:32 PM
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Might I suggest that you lurk for a little while to see what's going on.  I'm not sure how you came to the conclusions that you have come to based on this topic.  Read through the topics as you wish, even comment upon them when you wish.  But don't decide that the entire forum is made up of a bunch of fruitcakes because the first people to read your post didn't understand what it was all about.

Frankly, I didn't really understand your post either.  We don't usually see stories such as this just come in out of the blue.

As for what kind of forum this is, you have to read through the posts, make sure you read the rules and user agreements and you'll get along just fine as long as you're respectful.  The forum owner is not a sedevacantist though he allows sedevacantists to respectfully comment.

By the way, there are not any Catholics who don't "follow the pope", as you say, though there are quite a number of Catholics who simply can't accept the theory that Benedict XVI is the pope.  

The people who say it is a sin to attend Holy Mass have been branded on this forum as "home-aloners" and they are not welcome on the forum according to the posting guidelines.  You must have read some older posts.

Whatever your background, I would think you are welcome on this forum, but leave your Protestant street preacher ways behind.  The Catholic Religion is based both on faith and reason.  If your argument is based solely on one or the other, I think you'll have trouble on any forum--even Conciliar forums, because they have neither.


Conciliar? What is conciliar?  Who are the conciliar people?

sedevacantist -  That means the Chair is empty?  There is no Pope at all right now?  The "owner" of the fourm?  This forum is owned by one fella??  Please just help me to understand what's what.


You say that you don't believe that Benedict XVI is the Pope?  Why not.  Who is the Pope than?

Is Hobson a "home aloner" as you say?  Is he the one not welcome here because he says not to go Mass at a Vatican II Church??  Hobson says that there is a Pope somewhere and he tells people where to go to valid Masses, right??

Is this board an anti-vatican II board?  What are ya'll?

I'm just asking.  If one does not believe in Vatican II than how could they in good conscience go to Mass there?  Do you all go to Mass at vatican II Churches?

A board of fruitcakes?  I never thought such a thing at all.  I guess it depends where you stand on Vatican II as to who the fruitcakes are.  

The Kellogs Church - Nuts fruits and flakes.

I'm not judging anybody I'm just trying to understand who's who and why.  Hobson's down on SSPX.  Your down on Hobson.  I'm struggling..

Sir - Who is your Pope?  Thank you so much


Have you accepted Mary as your Personal Mother ?

RbM

P.S.   I shall lurk



Well...

After reading about this gentleman on another topic and that he has already been banned for signing up using multiple accounts, I suppose I deserved this.  After all, this is what I get for trying to answer his questions in good faith.

There are no stupid questions; just inquistive idiots.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Catholic Samurai on February 14, 2011, 08:50:30 PM
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Ah, there goes my cat-and-mouse game.  

It's not Hobson.  I was thinking more along the lines of the person or group of people who are behind the character known as Pope Augustine.  He / they seem to take on various personae, various characters.  That is why I was pointing out the discrepancies of tone in his posts.

But if this is Pope Augustine, he is very tricky and you have to be extremely careful not to walk into a trap.  For instance, Pope Augustine posted an explicit picture of a naked woman, and then when I said something, he erased it.  Therefore, this could easily have made people think I was a pervert spreading rumors, that I was seeing naked ladies in my imagination.  But Matthew fortunately saw the drawing and kicked him off.

Likewise, if I accuse someone of being Pope Augustine, he could play the innocent, and try to turn it around on me and make me look paranoid and crazy.  So I was going very slow with the dubious Rescued By Mary.


Wasnt it "GreatMonarch" who was doing that? Pope Gus was someone else. From what I can tell, RBM's posting style isnt like that of Gus's.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 14, 2011, 09:48:49 PM
I think Pope Augustine and the Great Monarch blended together in my mind, but you're right Samurai, they may be two different strains.

How does anyone here know that Pope Augustine is named "Gus," who here is on a first-name basis with this character?  Has someone actually met the man?

Rescued by Mary reminded me of the guy who runs the romancatholicism.org website, due to the Jansenist theme.  The difference is that he was against Jansenism rather than in favor of it.  But if this is all an elaborate joke, that means nothing.  

I just figured that somehow that site was involved with Augustine / Monarch, and that Augustine / Monarch were mocking the Angelic Pastor / Great Monarch prophecies.  Maybe it's not.  I don't know who is who, I just know there are lots of weirdos floating around.

Look at how Rescued by Mary started off with this elaborate, pseudo-scholarly essay and then, a day later, was spelling everything wrong and coming off like an amateur:  "Er, who, what is traditionalism, what is Siri, what is a sede?"  It came off as very phony.

I think there is someone or a group of someones out there who is playing various characters, like a chameleonic actor, just messing around with this site and with trads in general.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Hobbledehoy on February 15, 2011, 12:24:15 AM
Quote from: Raoul76
In the last couple days we have had yourself and "Hobbledehoy" who have come out of the blue and unspooled these long, erudite but slightly odd rants.  I draw no conclusions.  I'm just pointing something out.


I'm really sorry if I have given you and others this impression.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 15, 2011, 02:01:18 AM
Sorry Hobbles, that was rude.  Your posts are neither rants nor are they necessarily odd.  All that is odd is that you came out of nowhere with very elaborate and scholarly posts.  
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 15, 2011, 02:10:04 AM
I hope you don't mind that I use the diminutive of your name :wink:
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on February 15, 2011, 01:58:08 PM
Quote from: Raoul76
I think Pope Augustine and the Great Monarch blended together in my mind, but you're right Samurai, they may be two different strains.

How does anyone here know that Pope Augustine is named "Gus," who here is on a first-name basis with this character?  Has someone actually met the man?

Rescued by Mary reminded me of the guy who runs the romancatholicism.org website, due to the Jansenist theme.  The difference is that he was against Jansenism rather than in favor of it.  But if this is all an elaborate joke, that means nothing.  

I just figured that somehow that site was involved with Augustine / Monarch, and that Augustine / Monarch were mocking the Angelic Pastor / Great Monarch prophecies.  Maybe it's not.  I don't know who is who, I just know there are lots of weirdos floating around.

Look at how Rescued by Mary started off with this elaborate, pseudo-scholarly essay and then, a day later, was spelling everything wrong and coming off like an amateur:  "Er, who, what is traditionalism, what is Siri, what is a sede?"  It came off as very phony.

I think there is someone or a group of someones out there who is playing various characters, like a chameleonic actor, just messing around with this site and with trads in general.


If Matthew says that RBM is David Hobson then that must be who he is. "Pope" Gus had a somewhat different posting style, though one thing that Gus and RBM did have in common was that they were both abrupt. I didn't take this person's story seriously, and I had a pretty strong hunch that he was someone who signed up with another account after he said that you were a mocker. No person would have been albe to say that just from looking at one post, so he obviously had seen your posts before. And really, you are NOT a mocker. I don't call telling off these crazy people that sometimes sign up here mocking, I call it being smart.  :wink:
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: gladius_veritatis on February 15, 2011, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: Raoul76
How does anyone here know that Pope Augustine is named "Gus," who here is on a first-name basis with this character?


I believe it was RC who called him Gus -- I took it as being short for A...GUS...tine...
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Matthew on February 15, 2011, 02:07:15 PM
Strictly speaking, it doesn't matter if he was Pope Augustine or David Hobson. Either way, he's banned.

This latest member's irreverent phrases toward Our Lady were not appreciated.

I am devoted to the Blessed Virgin Mary. That's why I was especially quick to ban "4ourlady" as well. When they bring Mary into their nonsense, I don't have much patience for it.

Matthew
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 15, 2011, 07:43:07 PM
I think Commonitory was probably David Hobson.    

I cede to Catholic Samurai and I think he's right that I'm confusing the Great Monarch with Augustine, though they may be from the same mold.  

I may have special insight into the Monarch person / group because I have reason to believe that whoever this spook is, he has an interest in me in particular, for whatever reason.  Little clues are dropped that suggest he knows things about me, and he constantly makes fun of the Great Monarch prophecies in a subtle way, which are my bread-and-butter.  But I can never say anything because it's all so subtle and sneaky that it would make me sound like I was a paranoid freak to bring it up.

It's the same thing with the devil all the time.  I don't talk about it on the site, because people would think I'm crazy, but I have been harassed by the devil in a way that I've never heard of in all the annals of the saints.  I'm not saying I'm a saint, mind you.  On the contrary, I think by paying me so much attention he's trying to blow up my ego and make me start thinking of myself as special.  And as soon as I start thinking that, that's when I won't even have a chance to be, since God only raises the lowly.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 15, 2011, 08:01:56 PM
SpiritusSanctus said:
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No person would have been albe to say that just from looking at one post, so he obviously had seen your posts before.


Thanks for noticing -- that could be one example of what I'm talking about.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Raoul76 on February 15, 2011, 08:19:41 PM
I should probably open a new thread about this subject of paranoia, because it may help some people.  I know I'm not the only one who has been attacked this way, since the conspiracy theorist crowd talk about being "targeted individuals," meaning that complete strangers will often come up to them and say things suggesting they know intimate details about their lives.

I have a religious spin on all this, as you might expect.  The devil wants to make people paranoid because paranoia leads to mistrust, mistrust leads to the freezing of charity, and this of course is death to the soul.  Look at how William Cooper ended up, people like that.  That is why Hollywood makes films like They Live, it leads to an isolationist, paranoiac stance.  

So maybe, in our lives, we will meet with a handful of people who, inspired by the arch-fiend of the universe, will have the power of suggestion and will know how to play with our minds.
So what?

What is crucial to understand is that, though I believe such people do exist, they are not and never can be the majority.  But if this happens to you enough, if you have reason to believe that you are "targeted," you can easily start to see everyone as part of some gigantic plot.  You will have no charitable interpretation of any action or any word that is said to you.  This leads to massive egotism and the notion that you are a hero in a world of monsters.  And that is when you yourself become the monster.

It's really a perfect way to trick certain people, because certain people, due to pride, are already predisposed to think that way ( including myself ).  The only solution to this attack is humility, and seeing your brother as BETTER than yourself.  That is what has helped me.

In my life I have often found that what at first seemed like a battle with the devil, was in reality only a battle with my own pride... Which was being played like a violin by the devil.  Interesting, eh?  Everything comes down to pride vs. humility, is what I'm beginning to comprehend.  The more you exalt God while humbling yourself, the more clearly you will see, and the less you can be tricked.

Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Hobbledehoy on February 15, 2011, 10:31:46 PM
Quote from: Raoul76
Sorry Hobbles, that was rude.  Your posts are neither rants nor are they necessarily odd.  All that is odd is that you came out of nowhere with very elaborate and scholarly posts.


Thank you for your benign words, Raoul76. However, your remark is almost preternatural in its accuracy. What is somewhat unnerving is that I myself did not realize it until late last night.
 
There is in fact a fairly odd story behind my sudden appearance. Here is a summary of it in the form of a chronological list:

1) I saw that RBM was banned and I saw my member-name mentioned in this thread.

2) I got curious regarding the banned members of this forum and why they are banned.

3) Seeing the list of member names, I came across a name that was very familiar: "Glastonbury." I read his posts and I suddenly remembered that I wrote them. I remember when I left the Fisheaters' forum on August of 2006 (with a somewhat quizzical farewell, and then the moderatress decided to ban sedevacantists right after I left) and joined this forum shortly thereafter.

4) I suddenly realized that I have been on this forum all along as Glastonbury but did not remember. But I do not know what email address I used to register, nor do I remember my password. This is because when I was a college student I made some ten different disposable email addresses (which I used to store assignments and documents as attachments in emails to myself: a free substitute for a memory flash drives). Most of those email addresses are either deleted or their passwords have been forgotten over the last half decade. I do not remember why I suddenly stopped posting on this forum the same month I joined. It was probably when my computer broke (and all the information stored in it was lost) and I had to get a laptop. The fact that I had so many assignments and reading lists as a Literature major may also explain the matter.

5) Almost four and a half years and two different laptops later, I began reading the forum after the SGG controversies broke out, and then again at the death of the late Abbot Father Leonard Giardina, OSB. I joined the forum completely forgetful of the fact that I was already a member. Even if I had realized it, I would have been able to log in.

So, Raoul, you were more correct than you and I had realized in saying that my appearance was "odd." This is so embarrassing, but I thought it best to honestly state the fact as soon as possible in an open and frank manner.

Post script: Yes, you can use the diminutive of the name. "Call me anything but collect," is what I heard from older folks sometimes.
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: MaterDominici on February 15, 2011, 10:41:29 PM
Quote from: Hobbledehoy
[ "Call me anything but collect,"


 :laugh1:
new to me : )
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Jehanne on February 16, 2011, 08:08:20 AM
Quote from: Matthew
I banned "RescuedbyMary" for being David Hobson.

David Hobson has had SEVERAL accounts here in the past; no less than 3:
Ultramontane, scholasticism and Gortan.

I have my reasons for believing they are one and the same.

Matthew


It seems like he could play this game for a long, long time.  After all, IP & MAC addresses can be manipulated ad nauseam.  Have you ever considered something like a "silent ban"?  My idea would be to put him on a "group ignore" list based upon the IP address that he is coming from or his User Id.  When he visits the forum, even as a guest, he would see his posts, but none of us (who are, of course, coming from different IPs) would see anything that he wrote or even have any indication that he posted anything.  Banning based upon geography (all IPs from a certain location) is, of course, risky, and I assume that you do not do that, as legitimate users could be blocked, but other than that (or not accepting new users), he could go on "forever" (or, until he dies and goes to Hell.)
Title: Rescued By Mary
Post by: Matthew on November 03, 2012, 10:47:42 PM
Looks like he's back today.

I have a feeling it will be a short-lived revival.