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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
« Reply #75 on: April 24, 2025, 02:46:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: IndultCat on April 24, 2025, 02:43:26 PM
    I can only hope God has administered his divine justice upon the evil false pope Bergoglio.

    Our posts cross, but I nailed it.  How about, "I only hope that God did what is most just and most merciful, and of course I know that to be true, since He is God." ... and then stop wasting your time.

    What this reflects is you HOPING that he's in Hell, relishing the thought of him burninig in Hell.

    It's quite disturbing to see this, and if you don't see how terrible this is ... then your own soul is in grave danger.  Please examine your conscience here and try to snap out of whatever state it is that your'e in, since if he's in Hell, you could very easily end up joining him there.
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    Offline Pax Vobis

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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #76 on: April 24, 2025, 03:05:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: IndultCat on April 24, 2025, 02:46:20 PM
    Again, we don't know and can't know this for sure. I believe, however, that such a fate is perfectly reconcilable with God's Divine Justice. It's the only way I can respond to the death of the Satanic demon Bergoglio.
    The catholic response is to forgive.  
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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #77 on: April 24, 2025, 03:24:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on April 24, 2025, 02:46:45 PM
    What this reflects is you HOPING that he's in Hell, relishing the thought of him burninig in Hell.
    Well since scripture says that more people are damned than are saved (and I doubt that any truly devout Traditional Catholic can think of a recent person who lived on this earth that was more evil or even just as evil as Bergoglio), I fail to see how accepting Bergoglio being damned is somehow not reconcilable with God's Divine Justice.

     Isn't it puzzling how we can somehow "know" that someone is in heaven ( simply by the canonization process to sainthood) yet we cannot "know" that someone is in hell, especially when scripture says the number of the damned are greater than the number of saved?? Puzzling.

    Isn't it also puzzling why we can say about someone "May God bless him" but it's somehow a blasphemy against God to say about someone "May God damn him" even though God both "blesses" and "damns"??? Puzzling. 

    I don't know if he is in hell. I cannot know and I do not laugh or smile at his hellish fate but it does bring a sense of peace knowing Divine Justice has been carried out (that is, if he indeed is in hell). If he is not in hell through God's Divine Justice, then it's another theological puzzle because if hell is more populated than heaven and Bergoglio isn't there, then that begs the question: who is there?  
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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #78 on: April 24, 2025, 03:57:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: IndultCat on April 24, 2025, 03:24:36 PM
    Well since scripture says that more people are damned than are saved (and I doubt that any truly devout Traditional Catholic can think of a recent person who lived on this earth that was more evil or even just as evil as Bergoglio), I fail to see how accepting Bergoglio being damned is somehow not reconcilable with God's Divine Justice.

     Isn't it puzzling how we can somehow "know" that someone is in heaven ( simply by the canonization process to sainthood) yet we cannot "know" that someone is in hell, especially when scripture says the number of the damned are greater than the number of saved?? Puzzling.

    Isn't it also puzzling why we can say about someone "May God bless him" but it's somehow a blasphemy against God to say about someone "May God damn him" even though God both "blesses" and "damns"??? Puzzling.

    I don't know if he is in hell. I cannot know and I do not laugh or smile at his hellish fate but it does bring a sense of peace knowing Divine Justice has been carried out (that is, if he indeed is in hell). If he is not in hell through God's Divine Justice, then it's another theological puzzle because if hell is more populated than heaven and Bergoglio isn't there, then that begs the question: who is there? 
    Why are you so fascinated with the state of others souls?  People go to Hell because they do not want God.  If you find that Bergoglio is in Purgatory are you going to say to God sorry I can't be here because you allowed him to be here?  Doesn't that seem silly? But that is the feeling that I get from your posts.
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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #79 on: April 24, 2025, 04:07:31 PM »
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    • So, if Bergoglio is canonized in the future (and we know he will be), will the same posters who don't presume he is in Hell, defend his canonization as true/infallible?  Or will they question his canonization?  Afterall, it seems that based on their posts in this thread, God could send Bergoglio to Heaven.
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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #80 on: April 24, 2025, 04:25:38 PM »
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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #81 on: April 24, 2025, 04:30:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on April 24, 2025, 04:07:31 PM
    So, if Bergoglio is canonized in the future (and we know he will be), will the same posters who don't presume he is in Hell, defend his canonization as true/infallible?  Or will they question his canonization?  Afterall, it seems that based on their posts in this thread, God could send Bergoglio to Heaven.
    Ridiculous question, as the Catholic Church would never canonize a man who led such a wicked life. And the possibility of God sending Bergoglio to Heaven is not "based on posts in this thread", it is based on the Church's teaching regarding salvation. If Bergoglio repented of his sins and died in a state of grace, he will eventually attain eternal salvation. It's that simple. Unless you received private revelation from God Himself that Jorge Bergoglio has been damned, you cannot say with certainty that he is. 
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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #82 on: April 24, 2025, 04:38:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on April 24, 2025, 04:07:31 PM
    So, if Bergoglio is canonized in the future (and we know he will be), will the same posters who don't presume he is in Hell, defend his canonization as true/infallible?  Or will they question his canonization? 
    He will definitely be canonized in the future (just like the other satanic false popes) and you'll have some posters who will do both. The fence-sitting R&R types will question his canonization while Sedes like me will laugh that so many gutless trad lemmings will find another issue to cry about instead of standing up and saying "Bergoglio was a heretical false pope and if there is any Divine Justice, as I believe there is, then Bergoglio is experiencing his well-deserved eternal agony among the likes of Paul the Sick JP2 and The Ratzinger Rat." If anyone thinks otherwise they are part of the problem and not the solutuon.

    I can only imagine if we had as many soft, spineless Catholics like like most of them are today (Trads included) during The Crusades and Inquisitions!
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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #83 on: April 24, 2025, 04:39:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on April 24, 2025, 04:30:15 PM
    Ridiculous question, as the Catholic Church would never canonize a man who led such a wicked life. And the possibility of God sending Bergoglio to Heaven is not "based on posts in this thread", it is based on the Church's teaching regarding salvation. If Bergoglio repented of his sins and died in a state of grace, he will eventually attain eternal salvation. It's that simple. Unless you received private revelation from God Himself that Jorge Bergoglio has been damned, you cannot say with certainty that he is.
    I'm pretty sure the Catholic Church has canonized people who were once wicked but repented/converted.  Do you believe that Paul VI and the other Vatican II popes could have repented and died in a state of grace?  Do you continue to pray for their souls?  Because, it seems to me, to be consistent here, you and the others would have to believe that and tell the rest of us that we must pray for their souls too.

    Personally, I pray for the Holy Souls in Purgatory every day.  I let God sort out who that includes, but I don't believe for one second that the Vatican II heretic "popes" are included.
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    Offline Gray2023

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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #84 on: April 24, 2025, 04:41:46 PM »
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    • We could play the guessing game until we are blue in the face.  The main point is to worry about our own soul and God will worry about the rest.

    I guess it is just hard for us humans to find a balance between God's mercy and God's justice.  And I guess we will all seem a little hypocritical because as we correct others we then seem to fall into the same error that we are trying to correct. :cowboy:  Maybe we shouldn't take what anyone posts seriously because we can't truly figure out a person's internals.

    The funny thing is Bergoglio seemed to give Saint Pius X a visit on April 12.

    https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-04/pope-surprise-visit-st-peters-basilica.html

    And he refused the last sacrament. (Don't know if it is true or not)

    https://x.com/NovusOrdoWatch/status/1915021713638609159

    Could be he realized it wasn't the Catholic church? (long stretch, I know)

    Also if you read about how he wants to be buried, Bergoglio acts like he was never the "Pope" in the first place.  We might never figure it out, this side of death.




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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #85 on: April 24, 2025, 04:42:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on April 24, 2025, 03:57:50 PM
    Why are you so fascinated with the state of others souls? 
    This isn't a mere fascination with just one person's soul. It's confronting the justifiable fate of one of the most diabolically evil men to have ever lived on this earth: Jorge El Diablo Bergoglio.

    To show undeserved mercy to such a devil is to exhibit what Bishop Sheen rightly called "false compassion." It's not only foolish and cowardly but also evil.
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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #86 on: April 24, 2025, 04:45:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on April 24, 2025, 04:30:15 PM
    the Catholic Church would never canonize a man who led such a wicked life. 
    Have you already forgotten Paul VI and Jose Maria de Escriva?? :facepalm:
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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #87 on: April 24, 2025, 04:49:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: IndultCat on April 24, 2025, 04:42:51 PM
    To show undeserved mercy to such a devil is to exhibit what Bishop Sheen rightly called "false compassion." It's not only foolish and cowardly but also evil.
    Here’s what you forget— God and the Church DEMAND that you pray for the repose of catholic souls.  However evil they were.  It’s not a choice, it’s part of our Faith. 
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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #88 on: April 24, 2025, 04:49:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on April 24, 2025, 04:39:58 PM
    I'm pretty sure the Catholic Church has canonized people who were once wicked but repented/converted.  
    Yeah, people who publicly repented/converted.

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    Do you believe that Paul VI and the other Vatican II popes could have repented and died in a state of grace?  

    Do you believe they couldn't have?
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    Do you continue to pray for their souls?  Because, it seems to me, to be consistent here, you and the others would have to believe that and tell the rest of us that we must pray for their souls too.
    Not as often as I should, thanks for reminding me

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    Re: The Anti False Pope Has Died
    « Reply #89 on: April 24, 2025, 04:50:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: IndultCat on April 24, 2025, 04:45:12 PM
    Have you already forgotten Paul VI and Jose Maria de Escriva?? :facepalm:
    I said the Catholic Church
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