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Offline s2srea

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« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2011, 07:46:13 PM »
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  • I'm sorry, but this #### really annoys me.  :really-mad2:

    Wait I'm not sorry. I think there are just so many people on here so focused on the negativity of blacks and mexicans, anything thats not white, and think its Catholic.

    Listen- whites, blacks, mexicans, filipinos, arabs, germans, other asians- they all do stupid crap. I fail to realize how race should play into my belief as a Catholic??? Hey- if mid-millennial peoples never mixed- fine. If this was the apex of Christendom , cool. But where we are now in the world, how in the heck does it matter?

    Serious, the way Roscoe is still here after some of the crap he says baffles me. I think the white supremacist mentality has crept into Traditional Catholics, I'm just sorry to say I see it here. Screw that.

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    « Reply #46 on: August 23, 2011, 08:28:30 PM »
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    I am ethnically diverse-- English, Italian and Irish. It never exactly bothered me but it was a blessing to discover the unifying force of being a Roman Catholic. It might be a good idea for others to consider this and quit whining.


    The prev poster is a Classic Victicrat.


    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/08/23/dem_congresswoman_blames_black_unemployment_on_racism.html
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    « Reply #47 on: August 23, 2011, 08:37:24 PM »
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    I'm sorry, but this #### really annoys me.  :really-mad2:

    Wait I'm not sorry. I think there are just so many people on here so focused on the negativity of blacks and mexicans, anything thats not white, and think its Catholic.

    Listen- whites, blacks, mexicans, filipinos, arabs, germans, other asians- they all do stupid crap. I fail to realize how race should play into my belief as a Catholic??? Hey- if mid-millennial peoples never mixed- fine. If this was the apex of Christendom , cool. But where we are now in the world, how in the heck does it matter?

    Serious, the way Roscoe is still here after some of the crap he says baffles me. I think the white supremacist mentality has crept into Traditional Catholics, I'm just sorry to say I see it here. Screw that.


    roscoe isn't even worth taking seriously the vast majority (85+%) of the time. He's a 60+ year old pot smoker who doesn't seem to have much better to do than carp about every race that isn't white.
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    « Reply #48 on: August 23, 2011, 08:58:51 PM »
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  • Classic Victicrat
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    « Reply #49 on: August 23, 2011, 09:09:21 PM »
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  • The soul of black people can be saved by submission to the Primacy of St Peter. Are the victicrats happy now?  U guys are just a disgusting race card playing cabal. There always has to be the GWB out there for U Communists to hate.
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    « Reply #50 on: August 23, 2011, 09:48:37 PM »
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  • This is me as an infant (I am multiracial --black, white, asian).

    I'm just curious if the posters who feel so sorry for people who are ethnically mixed realize this is the typical state in many Catholic countries (Mexico, Philiipines, Cuba, Brazil, Panama, etc)? Also, I don't understand the OP's resentment or problem with the way the child in the marketing looks: most people in the world are dark-skinned, not "white," so his appearance isn't perceived as strange.

    Do Brazilians, for example, feel ethnically/racially confused, or is a multiracial society seen as perfectly natural in their Catholic nation?

    North American Catholics really, really need step out of their limited worldview (rural Texas is not the typical Latin, Catholic environment).  There are some attitudes, particularly with regards to race that are peculiar to only North American "Irish" Catholics and no other Catholics the world over.

    Incidentally, being mixed race as offered me the opportunity to relate to any number of people I go -- I've traveled the world and have no problem integrating into any environment.  I also don't have a predominant racial group of friends (although I tend to avoid white Americans because these kinds of conversations are small-minded and tedious).

    Mixed-race people who have a problem with themselves have bigger issues than the race issues...

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    « Reply #51 on: August 23, 2011, 10:00:26 PM »
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  • They are Victicrats :facepalm:

    It may be a good idea to consider that real Irish Catholics don't need to change their outlook on anything. U have somehow acquired a defective conception on them.
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    « Reply #52 on: August 23, 2011, 10:10:57 PM »
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  • .....should read of.

     Much of your post made sense but it seems  U are  flirting with Victim status also.

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    « Reply #53 on: August 23, 2011, 10:15:28 PM »
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  • Cognorati001

    You look a bit like one of my children did as a baby.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #54 on: August 24, 2011, 02:19:12 AM »
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  • *sigh*

    Another important topic lost in the internet Egosphere.

    I happened to agree with the original post. These mulitracial ads have been annoying me for years, mainly because they are a textbook example of classic agitprop. This is a very meaty, very weighty subject, which could have been explored with much profit. It dosen't look like that is going to happen now, but nevertheless I will offer an abbreviated version of the long comment I had planned to write, in the hopes that it might yet edify someone who still has the patience to read this far.

    First of all, let us stipulate to the premise. Take television commercials, for example. Whenever you see a TV spot today, there is a high probability that, no matter what corporation or product the ad is ostensibly about, it will feature one of the following:

    A) A black office-worker in a position of authority over whites. Does anybody remember Charles Robinson (i.e. "Max" from Night Court) in that commercial in which the line "We saved a nickel" was prominently featured? I don't recall what the ad was for, but I remember that line.

    B) A female engineer or executive, being waited on attentively by three or four rather sheepish looking men. She usually presents as a geologist in a petroleum company commercial. The camera swings carressingly by her as she unroles some desk-sized survey maps in her hard hat and business suit.

    C) An Asian male who is "one of the guys." He can be seen chugging brews with a retinue of other (appropriately multi-ethnic) chums, or grilling bratwursts on his back patio in his frat-boy stubble and college sweatshirt. His one outstanding feature is his irremediable rootedness in the quotidian details of the suburban beta-male playground, devoid of lofty aspirations or sublime thoughts.

    D) A bosomy, prudential, middle-aged black woman who seems tough enough to be a guard at Rikers Island, and who bosses white folks into getting their business done. ("That's the power of Pinesol, baby!")

    E) A nerdy white guy. Examples of this one are too numerous to mention, but the Capital One commercials of several years back, featuring David Spade and his hapless sidekick, are characteristic of the genre. These days, there is also often the innuendo that Mr. Nerdy White Guy is getting cuckolded by a member of another race (Shaquille O'Neil: "You're too slow, dad, and so's your DSL").

    F) A somewhat phlegmatic white mother, who, when menanced in the park by an (always white) scoundrel in a hoodie, goes running to the arms of, not her husband or God, but some seller of security devices.

    G) If an Hispanic woman appears in a commercial, she will be neither a mother nor a wife, but an attractive drone, an Ibsen Woman, a low-rent version of the business-gal in (B). Hispanic men as a rule are not shown in commercials at all, unless it is to play the victim in those home-grown television spots of which accident-and-injury law firms are so fond, for some God-forsaken reason. "If you've been hurt on the job and can't work, call attorney Sam Schmuckster. He's working hard for you!

    Now, there is quite a wealth of psychological manipulation and insinuation to be discerned in these types; but first it is necessary to understand the basic style of presentation, the television commercial as "narrative" not as advertisement. The object of these dramas, these mini morality plays as it were, is to give you a sense of belonging to a certain culture with certain prescribed norms of what to pursue, what to desire, and what to fear.

    The first six items, (A) through (F), have the principal effect of emasculating white men. That much should be fairly uncontroversial and has already been lamented, early and often. What is seldom recognized, however, is that these pseudo-stereotypes fill us with fascination precisely because they are contrary to known reality, i.e. they cater to our well-developed senses of irony and counterpoint, which are characteristic features practically unique to Western Man. While the content of the message is anti-Western, the style of the message is exactly in the key Western history, and is perceptible only to someone with Western intellect and Western sensibilities. There is in us the intense longing for antipodes, the projection to the opposite pole, and the quite Baroque desire to juxtapose and explore all possible permutations, that leads us to take a perverse sort of satisfaction in accomplishing the ironic, if only in the abstract realm of art.

    This is the same sort of "contrapuntal" Western intellect that conceived of the planer curve as a function of two variables, and invented double-entry bookkeeping, a system of abstractly conceived debits and credits, as the engine and emblem of its economic existence. It once was a healthful conceit, and in its youth was responsible for perspective oil painting, chiaroscuro, and the music of Handel and Bach. Now in our decadence we turn our cynical and exacting eyes upon ourselves.

    Item (G) above, is the exception that proves the rule, for the Western intellect also must needs have a sympathetic object, an opposite pole, on which to lavish all its pity and energy. This explains our well-known penchant for creating "charity cases," a pastime virtually unknown in the rest of the world.

    We are quite decieved into thinking that these attitudes, these sensibilities of ours, are virtue itself, and not merely an overdeveloped passion for the ironic. And if I can, in a too-brief word, stride from one mountain top to another without adequate explanation, in effort to save time, I would venture to say that this highly stylized intellect of ours is the cause of the phenomenon of modernism, whole and entire, and also of the modernist heresy within the Church. For sentimental contrapuntalism in the field of politics is known as socialism, and socialism is a sin.

    I would be happy to discuss this matter further if anybody shows an interest.
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    « Reply #55 on: August 24, 2011, 05:16:12 AM »
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  • Here's a rare thing!



    Maybe she's allowed to be portrayed as stupid because she's white, and he's allowed to be portrayed thus because he's a man.


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    « Reply #56 on: August 24, 2011, 08:39:51 AM »
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    Maybe she's allowed to be portrayed as stupid because she's white, and he's allowed to be portrayed thus because he's a man.


    That video was to promote walking more for better health. It has nothing to do with politics or race. Or is the fact that there is a black male among a white woman offensive? Is it too 'multicultural' for a black person to stand among a white person? Man, I really hate these multicultural ads! :cussing: Presenting blacks as capable of being civilized.  :facepalm:
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    « Reply #57 on: August 24, 2011, 09:09:20 AM »
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    The soul of black people can be saved by submission to the Primacy of St Peter. Are the victicrats happy now?  U guys are just a disgusting race card playing cabal. There always has to be the GWB out there for U Communists to hate.


    Who the heck are you to speak? I think anyone with half a brain knows that a pot smoker who falsely interprets Scripture to read that smoking weed is ok is alot worse than two people who get upset because you're still allowed to post here. s2srea makes 12 people now who want you banned, seriously it's time for you to hit the road. Your posts are what's disgusting. Go find a marijauna or race forum to post on, you obviously aren't qualified to post on a Traditional Catholic forum.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #58 on: August 24, 2011, 09:13:01 AM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    I'm sorry, but this #### really annoys me.  :really-mad2:

    Wait I'm not sorry. I think there are just so many people on here so focused on the negativity of blacks and mexicans, anything thats not white, and think its Catholic.

    Listen- whites, blacks, mexicans, filipinos, arabs, germans, other asians- they all do stupid crap. I fail to realize how race should play into my belief as a Catholic??? Hey- if mid-millennial peoples never mixed- fine. If this was the apex of Christendom , cool. But where we are now in the world, how in the heck does it matter?

    Serious, the way Roscoe is still here after some of the crap he says baffles me. I think the white supremacist mentality has crept into Traditional Catholics, I'm just sorry to say I see it here. Screw that.


    Please don't let a pot smoker run you off this forum. Just put roscoe on ignore. Roscoe cannot be reasoned with, he's a plant who doesn't even know how to properly debate.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #59 on: August 24, 2011, 10:19:54 AM »
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  • I had no idea there were so many ego-hurt anglos on this forum. Some don't realize how much anti-'any-other-race' they've been brought up with in their homes and community. Its classic. Take, for example the white-american's outlook on Mexicans as being daft and lazy. Think of the classic Mexican in white attire and big sombrero sitting against a wall w/ tequila. To refute the ignorant (and they most definitely exist here, as I've seen them in other threads) I would suggest they read,, by Francis Clement Kelley (Click on the link and make the moderators a few dollars while you're at it). He clearly demonstrates that the misconception of white-American Anglos is just that, a misconception implanted in their brains by a Freemasonic government in order to case much hurt in, what was once, a thriving Catholic country. It especially sad to see amongst my fellow trads, but it seems very prevalent.

    Some here are confusing marketing in the real world with soviet agitprop. I'm not saying that exists, but if I were a marketing director, you bet your ass I would get every dang race in an advertisement I could; especially promoting to a market like urban US.

    Some here (and when I say some, I mean you Roscoe) are just plain narrow-minded bigots. Call me what you want. Call me a communist; call me liberal; call me buying into an agenda; I don't give a rat. I know what I am and I that's not Catholic.

    I'm sure there are others on here who are not posting in order to avoid this polemical issue. That's okay. But if I were to come onto this forum for the first time, and see a moron on here talking the way he does about this, I would probably not have stayed. Fortunately, I know there's a wealth of other knowledge on here to be gained.

    Ugh. Anglo Americans make me sick. So full of themselves. I hate living here sometimes. Knowing that this is so prevalent in my favorite forum just makes it worse.