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Offline roscoe

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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2011, 03:25:48 PM »
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  • There has been no Jєωιѕн or Gentile for the last 2K yrs-- only Roman Catholics.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #16 on: August 21, 2011, 03:53:31 PM »
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  • Quote from: Anna1959
    I said what I did about it being wrong to deliberately have children of mixed heritage because I am one of those children, now grown.


    There's nothing wrong with deliberately having children with one's spouse. In fact, it's a good thing.

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    I felt if I identified with what my father was, I was slapping my mother and her family in the face. And I felt if I identified with what my mother was, I was slapping my father and his family in the face.


    Why not just be yourself?


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    « Reply #17 on: August 21, 2011, 07:33:36 PM »
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  • President Obama, Sgt. James Crowley, Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

    The White House issued an executive order on Thursday titled “Establishing a Coordinated Government-wide Initiative to Promote Diversity and Inclusion in the Federal Workforce.” The purpose of the order is “to promote the federal workplace as a model of equal opportunity, diversity and inclusion.” In other words, it would be better for the government if public-spirited white workers sought employment elsewhere. Lost amid all the politically correct box-checking is the principle that the most qualified person should be hired for a job.

    President Obama’s new order instructs federal agencies to design new strategies for hiring, promoting and keeping workers of “diverse” backgrounds. The diversity the government is seeking is not diversity of ideas, outlooks or work experiences. In contemporary political parlance, “diversity” refers primarily to the color of one’s skin and not the content of one’s character. The executive order says the federal government “must create a culture that encourages collaboration, flexibility and fairness to enable individuals to participate to their full potential.” In the name of “fairness,” however, the government will intensify programs that discriminate against white Americans by extending special privileges to everyone else. The order also says that “attaining a diverse, qualified workforce is one of the cornerstones of the merit-based civil service,” though merit and ability are not the metrics of choice when measuring success in diversity-driven career programs.

    The order states that by law, the federal government’s recruitment policies should “endeavor to achieve a workforce from all segments of society” and that “as the nation’s largest employer, the federal government has a special obligation to lead by example.” In that respect, the government could largely declare mission accomplished. A quick look at the demographic breakdown of the federal payroll shows that “diversity” goals have been more than met. According to the Office of Personnel Management, federal employees in fiscal 2010 were 66.2 percent white, 17.7 percent black, 8 percent Hispanic, 5.6 percent Asian and Pacific Islander and 1.8 percent American Indian. Compared to the general U.S. population, the federal force is a bit too diverse. Blacks are overrepresented by 6.9 percent compared to the civilian work force, Asians and Pacific Islanders by 1.2 percent, and American Indians are more than double their proportion of the population at large. White Americans, who make up about 70 percent of the work force, are underrepresented by around 4 percent. Hispanics are also underrepresented despite the Clinton-era executive order 13171, “Hispanic Employment in the Federal Government.

    In all this "Affirmative Action", and Diversity. Are we getting the best employee,
    or it is a numbers gain to get votes in an election!

    Offline Raoul76

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    « Reply #18 on: August 21, 2011, 07:53:21 PM »
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  • Clare, those lower two images look doctored.  I have looked at lots of medieval art, I don't remember a great deal of black people in them, sorry.  But if you open up any modern-day college brochure, it will always be a black, an Asian, and a white.  Over and over and over again.

    It is these politically-correct people who stoke up race-hatred.  They so overemphasize the virtues of the "oppressed" races that they overly flatter and stroke the egos of blacks -- leading them on to ever worse behavior, by the way -- while putting whites on the defensive.  There is nothing a black guy can do now that he doesn't have some excuse for.  

    What is the biggest movie in the nation now?  The Help, about black slaves and how they end up raising the children of their oppressors.  I haven't even seen the movie, but something tells me I know what it is.  The whites are cold and prissy and obsessed with money, the blacks are warm and full of folk wisdom and like to sing gospel at revival meetings, etc.  This "noble savage" archetype is demeaning above all for the blacks.  How can people not see the condescension inherent in all of this?   Catholicism should be the common denominator, as Matthew said, not some inherent Uncle Remus "wisdom" put in the mouths of blacks by white screenwriters.  

    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #19 on: August 21, 2011, 10:19:33 PM »
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  • Quote from: clare
    Quote from: Anna1959
    I said what I did about it being wrong to deliberately have children of mixed heritage because I am one of those children, now grown.


    There's nothing wrong with deliberately having children with one's spouse. In fact, it's a good thing.

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    I felt if I identified with what my father was, I was slapping my mother and her family in the face. And I felt if I identified with what my mother was, I was slapping my father and his family in the face.


    Why not just be yourself?


    Indeed Clare.

    What's with all the hyperbole that merely being who you are or living your Faith is somehow an insult to anyone? How bizarre, and what a terrible burden on oneself.

    My mother's family are lifelong Catholic-haters. Whore of Babylon and all that.

    When I converted I might as well have grown horns. Who cares?

    You're not slapping anyone in the face.

    Also, ethnic Jew ≠ religious Jew, so convert them to the Faith.

    If they're religious Jews, convert them to the Faith.


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    « Reply #20 on: August 22, 2011, 10:08:06 AM »
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  • Quote from: Raoul76
    Clare, those lower two images look doctored.  I have looked at lots of medieval art, I don't remember a great deal of black people in them, sorry.


    http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/articles/a/africans-in-medieval-and-renaissance-art-three-kings/

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    The earliest known example of a black king may be represented in a wall painting of about 1360 in the Emmaus monastery in Prague. It is certain that by the beginning of the 15th century some European artists had begun to depict one of the kings as black rather than white. The Magi had become representatives of the three continents of the Old World - Europe, Asia and Africa (America only became known to Europeans in 1492). The Magi can also represent the three ages of life - youth, maturity and old age.
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    Although the black king was fairly common in Northern European art by the end of the 15th century, it was less frequent in Florentine Renaissance art. Central Italian artists were among the last to adopt the image, though black attendants are sometimes included in the retinue of three white Magi.



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    « Reply #21 on: August 22, 2011, 12:42:02 PM »
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  • Its easy for those who have never personally dealt with racial or ethnic divisions within onesself, to say "just be yourself". Until you have lived it, you won't understand.
    "If I am not in the state of grace, may the Lord put me in it. And if I am in the state of grace, may the Lord keep me in it".--St Jehanne D'Arc, during her trial.

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    « Reply #22 on: August 22, 2011, 01:35:08 PM »
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    Its easy for those who have never personally dealt with racial or ethnic divisions within onesself, to say "just be yourself". Until you have lived it, you won't understand.


    I've dealt with it, trust me. It's as big of a deal as you make of it.
    For those who I have unjustly offended, please forgive me. Please disregard my posts where I lacked charity and you will see that I am actually a very nice person. Disregard my opinions on "NFP", "Baptism of Desire/Blood" and the changes made to the sacra


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    « Reply #23 on: August 22, 2011, 02:09:26 PM »
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  • The problem with Daegus is that he seems to have convinced himself black people have darker skin pigmentation because of  exposure to the Sun.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    « Reply #24 on: August 22, 2011, 02:20:14 PM »
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  • There is more to race than just the color of ones skin.

    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    « Reply #25 on: August 22, 2011, 02:24:20 PM »
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  • I use to listen to The Front Page-- there was a black caller who insisted  white peoples absence of skin color was because they(we) spent eons as cave men.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    « Reply #26 on: August 22, 2011, 02:29:21 PM »
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  • I am ethnically diverse-- English, Italian and Irish. It never exactly bothered me but it was a blessing to discover the unifying force of being a Roman Catholic. It might be a good idea for others to consider this and quit whining.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    « Reply #27 on: August 22, 2011, 03:49:27 PM »
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    The problem with Daegus is that he seems to have convinced himself black people have darker skin pigmentation because of  exposure to the Sun.


    And the problem with you is that you seem to have convinced yourself that MJ has helped your medical problems, but it has done nothing but mess up your ability to reason properly. And you said on another thread a while back that the MJ actually wasn't helping you and that you were still ailing. I think you should recognize your own fallacies before you accuse someone of saying something he never said. That is also a fallacy by the way, the straw-man fallacy which you love to use.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #28 on: August 22, 2011, 05:03:23 PM »
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    Quote from: roscoe
    The problem with Daegus is that he seems to have convinced himself black people have darker skin pigmentation because of  exposure to the Sun.


    And the problem with you is that you seem to have convinced yourself that MJ has helped your medical problems, but it has done nothing but mess up your ability to reason properly. And you said on another thread a while back that the MJ actually wasn't helping you and that you were still ailing. I think you should recognize your own fallacies before you accuse someone of saying something he never said. That is also a fallacy by the way, the straw-man fallacy which you love to use.


    I was actually willing to give roscoe another chance so I unblocked him. Since he appears to be fond of making things up about me, back on the ignore list he goes. Besides, I don't see what that statement (that I did not make) even has to do with what I said.
    For those who I have unjustly offended, please forgive me. Please disregard my posts where I lacked charity and you will see that I am actually a very nice person. Disregard my opinions on "NFP", "Baptism of Desire/Blood" and the changes made to the sacra

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    « Reply #29 on: August 22, 2011, 05:51:49 PM »
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    There is more to race than just the color of ones skin.



    EXACTLY.
    "If I am not in the state of grace, may the Lord put me in it. And if I am in the state of grace, may the Lord keep me in it".--St Jehanne D'Arc, during her trial.