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Offline Nadir

Re: Girl Pours Bleach On Men To Stop Man-Spreading
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2018, 02:30:37 PM »
VW3, you seem to be equating punishment with violence, though you often use the word "force",  by which you seem to imply violence.

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Offline Vintagewife3

Re: Girl Pours Bleach On Men To Stop Man-Spreading
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2018, 03:04:04 PM »
I don’t argue mans authority over his family, Nadir. Just how far it goes by way of punishment of his wife.  
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Offline Quid Retribuam Domino

Re: Girl Pours Bleach On Men To Stop Man-Spreading
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2018, 04:17:45 PM »
Quote from: Vintagewife3 on December 16, 2018, 03:04:04 PM
I don’t argue mans authority over his family, Nadir. Just how far it goes by way of punishment of his wife. 

VW3 has employed "truth" fluidity from the get-go of these threads. She'll state the orthodox line like a parrot. She's claims to be fine with Catholic doctrine on these matters until she realizes certain situations aren't to her advantage - at which point her opposition becomes fixed regardless of any appeal to logic or reason that is made - and then she'll still utter vague posits that superficially appear as if she agrees with the Church on the natural order of husband and wife.

In effect, something is only "true" if it benefits her or somehow enables her own material preservation.
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Offline Vintagewife3

Re: Girl Pours Bleach On Men To Stop Man-Spreading
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2018, 04:52:21 PM »
Quote from: Quid Retribuam Domino on December 16, 2018, 04:17:45 PM
VW3 has employed "truth" fluidity from the get-go of these threads. She'll state the orthodox line like a parrot. She's claims to be fine with Catholic doctrine on these matters until she realizes certain situations aren't to her advantage - at which point her opposition becomes fixed regardless of any appeal to logic or reason that is made - and then she'll still utter vague posits that superficially appear as if she agrees with the Church on the natural order of husband and wife.

In effect, something is only "true" if it benefits her or somehow enables her own material preservation.
You don’t even know me in real life. So, stop.  I appreciate all views on the matter, but it sits wrong with me. 
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Offline Jaynek

Re: Girl Pours Bleach On Men To Stop Man-Spreading
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2018, 05:18:57 PM »
Quote from: Vintagewife3 on December 16, 2018, 02:15:12 PM
I’ve been sitting here for the past 3 days doing whatever research I could find on this. I’ve only so far found a few quotes on such topic, and it was about a wife cheating. Even then those quotes were from a different time. We don’t follow all rules of the last, now do we? Just because it was done, doesn’t mean it’s what should be done. It also doesn’t make it right. Know better, do better. The church never even had a stand on such a view until these past years. Past wives submit to your husbands, or wives fear your husbands.The word fear can be interrupted in a few different ways, and yes, one of them is by use of force. When you look at all other teachings how a husband should love his wife as himself, or as Christ loves the church. I think it’s safe to say God wasn’t for husbands punishing their wives in any physical way. I’m not against a husband discipline his spouse. Of course he should if she is failing in her duties!  But it should still be done with respect to her hunan dignity. There are other forms of punishment that I would say would be even more effective then hitting.

There were hundreds upon hundreds of years in which Catholics taught and practiced that a husband's authority included the possibility of punishing a wife in a physical way.  There have been only a few decades in which people have questioned this view.  The movement associated with rejecting the traditional belief also promotes the idea that it is fine for women to kill their babies.  I do not think we can assume the modern view "knows better" or is a good reflection of what God wants.  

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