Author Topic: Do non-Catholics go to Heaven? (Read 6676 times)

LordPhan · « **Reply #5 on:** July 26, 2011, 10:50:45 PM »

Quote from: ajpirc

What about other Catholic dogma? Purgatory, 7 Sacraments, Immaculate Conception of Mary, Assumption of Mary, the Real Presence, Papal infallibility, the Catholic Church being the true and only Church of Christ, priests can absolve sins, mortal sin, necessity of baptism for salvation, sanctity of marriage, abortion being immoral, contraception being immoral, and all other Catholic dogma? Only the dogma of the Trinity and Divinity of Christ have to be accepted as the Catholic Faith that is necessary for salvation. If this is the case, then all "Christians" have the true Faith.

They Key points from the quote were that one had to be in the Catholic Church, the Council of Florence was Quoting from St. Athanasius who led the trads during the Arian Crisis and won.

At that time the major crisis of faith revolved around the Holy Trinity.

The other things you asked about are covered elsewhere with anethama's attached and if you are anethama you are outside the church and damned.

LordPhan · « **Reply #6 on:** July 27, 2011, 07:33:20 AM »

I'd also like to add that their are 2 types of Laws in the Catholic Church, one can be changed the other cannot.

Dogmatic laws cannot be changed. If anyone should try to change them they are outside the church and condemned to hell.

Man-made laws can be changed.

Any law with an anethama attached to it is dogmatic. It is a defined Dogma that one cannot be a Modernist and a Catholic.

ajpirc · « **Reply #7 on:** July 27, 2011, 04:03:35 PM »

Thank you for clarifying your point LordPhan.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #8 on:** July 28, 2011, 11:13:18 AM »

Does anyone believe that it is possible for a Protestant to die in the state of grace? If yes, would he be saved?

I say yes, because although to the world he died a Protestant, but in the eyes of God he was a Catholic.

ajpirc · « **Reply #9 on:** July 28, 2011, 12:36:33 PM »

Quote from: MyrnaM

Does anyone believe that it is possible for a Protestant to die in the state of grace? If yes, would he be saved?

I say yes, because although to the world he died a Protestant, but in the eyes of God he was a Catholic.

I understand what you're saying and I somewhat agree.

It would be a lie to call them a Protestant, because they are Catholic, though.

This is in certain circuмstances.

All under the age of reason, but who have been baptized are Catholic and in the state of grace, even if they're being raised as Protestants. Once they hit the age of reason and continue their lives in heresy, they leave the Church and are no longer in the state of grace.

Someone that hasn't been accepted into the Church, though wish to enter by having the will to become Catholic though die before they enter can be incorporated into the Church. Although they may have been considered Baptist by their friends and family, they were no longer one because they accepted the Church as the True Church and Her teachings.

A Protestant can't willingly accept heresy and be in the state of grace.