Author Topic: So You Decided To Become A Sedevacantist (Read 51000 times)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #10 on:** June 16, 2009, 02:29:31 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

...because BoD is the real nonsense.

Tell that to St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Alphonsus Liguori, et alii.

Read St. Thomas' explanation of the THREE ways to receive the grace of the ONE Sacrament of Baptism. It is both clear and profound.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #11 on:** June 16, 2009, 04:06:08 AM »

Try to grasp this:

The SAME CHURCH that issued those decrees elevated Sts Thomas and Alphonsus to the level of Doctor - and did so knowing they taught BoD and BoB. Such teachings have remained in their writings to this day. St. Alphonsus lived well after Trent, btw.

There is a HARMONY between their teachings and that of Holy Church. It is NOT one or the other.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #12 on:** June 16, 2009, 04:31:31 AM »

Matthew,

You realize, of course, that I - or a good-willed, non-Catholic outsider - could also draw up a lengthy list of questions for those who think as you do?

Your "take" is not so simple, either. Such is unavoidable in an unprecedented situation. God speed.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #13 on:** June 16, 2009, 04:37:56 AM »

The V2 Church is highly visible. Is it leading people to heaven or hell? If the latter, how is that possible if it is the ONE invincible guardian and the infallible, authoritative teacher of revealed truth?

Was Holy Church visible when she was only made up of a few Jews still living in Palestine? Waht does it even mean to be "visible" in this instance?

Did God-made-man actually DIE? How could that happen? Could his church go through a similar, albeit-mystical experience?

No, this is not the list to which I alluded. These are just tough questions.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 16, 2009, 04:58:47 AM »

Gladius, you work a late-shift at a hotel?

I tried to get a job like that, it didn't work out. I like to stay up all night. Maybe we are "symbolically" staying up through the dark night of the Church, waiting for daylight.

I think the Church is plenty visible. As soon as I figured out something was wrong in VII, it took me no time at all to scout around on the Internet and discover sedevacantism. Heck, Mel Gibson made us world-famous, even if he is not the best advocate. No one can say that they haven't heard of traditional Catholics. God has seen to it with the Internet and all the other blessings He's given us that no one has an excuse ( yes, the Internet is a blessing in our time, without it there is no way I'd have found sedevacantism ).

I'm not sure what this list you're referring to is, though.