Author Topic: Seeking a valid Traditional Catholic Mass....Are there any out there? (Read 19967 times)

PG · « **Reply #20 on:** September 04, 2014, 03:54:24 PM »

Seekeroftruth - the video link to Fr. Jenkins that I posted covers all of the the traditional controversies. If you know the doctrinal positions of all of the trad groups, then you will know who Fr. Jenkins is referring to when he speaks of the doctrines.

SeekerOfTruth · « **Reply #21 on:** September 04, 2014, 03:58:53 PM »

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seekeroftruth - perhaps you know of all of these groups, but do you know why there are all of these groups? Do you know that malachi martin was a marrano jew being paid under the table by a chief rabbi of new york to influence V2 and the traditional movement(BTW martin is still popular amongst una cuм resisters)?

If you are already prepared to receive sacraments without knowing the reasons that drive the trad world enough to definitively choose, then perhaps you do belong at brooksville. The twin gods comfort and convenience eagerly await thee there.

I have heard that of Malachi Martin, but I have not read that much.

Why did the Von Hildebrands and Father Villa and Padre Pio stay in the Novus Ordo? Does anybody know the answer to that? I cannot find anyone who can answer that question.

SeekerOfTruth · « **Reply #22 on:** September 04, 2014, 04:00:23 PM »

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Seekeroftruth - the video link to Fr. Jenkins that I posted covers all of the the traditional controversies. If you know the doctrinal positions of all of the trad groups, then you will know who Fr. Jenkins is referring to when he speaks of the doctrines.

Thanks for the Jenkins referral.

IllyricumSacrum · « **Reply #23 on:** September 04, 2014, 04:21:28 PM »

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seekeroftruth - perhaps you know of all of these groups, but do you know why there are all of these groups? Do you know that malachi martin was a marrano jew being paid under the table by a chief rabbi of new york to influence V2 and the traditional movement(BTW martin is still popular amongst una cuм resisters)?

If you are already prepared to receive sacraments without knowing the reasons that drive the trad world enough to definitively choose, then perhaps you do belong at brooksville. The twin gods comfort and convenience eagerly await thee there.

Seeker,
You mentioned something about uncharitable traditionalists in your original post...

PG · « **Reply #24 on:** September 04, 2014, 04:26:47 PM »

seekeroftruth - padre pio is interesting case, but easy to understand. First, he died in 1968. News(not rumor) didn't travel as fast back then as it does today, and the new mass and other changes to the sacraments that would set off alarm bells were not even a factor/in effect yet. Second, he requested and received permission to be exempt from the liturgical changes that were occurring(permission = major factor). Third, he was an old dying stigmatized burdened religious priest. Lastly, Padre Pio is not infallible.