Author Topic: Seeking a valid Traditional Catholic Mass....Are there any out there? (Read 19978 times)

IllyricumSacrum · « **Reply #30 on:** September 04, 2014, 07:25:29 PM »

Lemme add a couple more...

7) won't go to the ECC, even for confession
8) + pg-13 + suddenly appears
9) op warms to + pg +
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curioustrad · « **Reply #31 on:** September 04, 2014, 09:31:19 PM »

I'm wondering with all of this if Trad Catholic communities are still being monitored by the Roman hierarchs as they used to do in the 70s or if they have sufficiently learnt to talk like Trads just enough to pass themselves off as them.

In our chapel we have a number of clearly Novus Ordo people "pew stuffing" (I call it) who don't know beans about the issues but they wear the long dresses and plunging necklines (the giveaway in more senses than 1).

Have we been too busy fighting each other over Kelly, Dolan, Pivarunas, Sanborn, Williamson, Pfeiffer and Fellay to not notice that the infiltrators are right there desperately hoping we won't see them for the NOM frauds they totally are. Fellay can't speak to admirers without the admirers being bussed in from somewhere. I wonder if this is becoming a universal phenomenon: "THe Enemy Within" ?

Dana · « **Reply #32 on:** September 04, 2014, 09:42:46 PM »

SeekerofTruth: The book you may have heard of is "The Resurrection of the Catholic Church," by Griff Ruby. I found it both fair and informative on the trad movement. Here's a link:

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And, +PG+, the good Bishop's name is Pivarunas. Thank you.

curioustrad · « **Reply #33 on:** September 04, 2014, 09:47:47 PM »

Quote from: Dana

SeekerofTruth: The book you may have heard of is "The Resurrection of the Catholic Church," by Griff Ruby. I found it both fair and informative on the trad movement. Here's a link:

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And, +PG+, the good Bishop's name is Pivarunas. Thank you.

It's full of factual errors - hardly a reliable source for dates and facts even if in "broad strokes" he does paint a picture of the Trad movement but heavily sede of course.

curioustrad · « **Reply #34 on:** September 04, 2014, 10:42:19 PM »

Quote from: curioustrad

Quote from: Dana
SeekerofTruth: The book you may have heard of is "The Resurrection of the Catholic Church," by Griff Ruby. I found it both fair and informative on the trad movement. Here's a link:

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And, +PG+, the good Bishop's name is Pivarunas. Thank you.

It's full of factual errors - hardly a reliable source for dates and facts even if in "broad strokes" he does paint a picture of the Trad movement but heavily sede of course.

But it is an excellent primer for a Trad chapel infiltrator because it paints that Trad movement in broad strokes but fills it with so much factual error that the potential infiltrator can't tune that out since they do not know the people involved in the Trad movement. Thus it is an excellent source for spotting would be Trad infiltrators a mile off ! Must recommend that for good reading to the pew stuffers in our chapel.