God gives the gift of prophecies to His Church precisely to clear up theological controversies, and so we are not swayed by the winds of false doctrine...
The Church decides on controverted issues. Your interpretation of specific prophesies and their relation to controverted issues is your opinion. That opinion means nothing to others.
The Church and Scripture are not opposed as you are making them out to be. Church also tells us we must prove prophecy. The Church does not bind our conscience to an interpretation. If that were the case prophecy would not have to be proved by us!!! You are missing the point SJB. Catholic prophecy can not be relegated to the back burner or rendered insignificant as the protestants believe. Catholics must prove and hold prophecy. Do you not believe my interpretation of La Salette? O.K. Then what is yours? Read the quote from Our Lady and interpret it. That's the point of this thread. Does your interpretation make sense to you? If it does and it is different then mine, then prove it. That is what Catholics do. There must be schisms as you know...
[18] For first of all I hear that when you come together in the church, there are schisms among you; and in part I believe it. [19] For there must be also heresies: that they also, who are approved, may be made manifest among you. 1 Cor 11:18-19
Those who prove and hold prophecy correctly will be "not be swayed by the winds of doctrine" and be on the right side of the schism.
Nowhere have I said or implied that "The Church and Scripture are opposed" in any way. I never said that prophecy should be "rendered insignificant."
Where did you learn that we all should interpret private revelations and then argue our opinions? I'd say that approach causes more confusion and division than any benefit you might imagine. Anyway, we, as Catholics, are NOT instructed to do this.
You are putting words in my mouth. Just about all prophecy starts as private revelation.
Not all private revelation is prophecy. Also, I said prophecy should be proved in accordance with Scripture, and Vatican I. Someone else asked me, "why they should believe my interpretation." Actually a better reply would have been,
"that it should be already suitable to his understanding". Also for prophecy to be proved some minor interpretation is sometimes required. Even so, we are assured by the Church that it is not so hard to understand...
First Vatican Council, Chapter 3 On faith:
Since human beings are totally dependent on God as their creator and lord, and created reason is completely subject to uncreated truth, we are obliged to yield to God the revealer full submission of intellect and will by faith. This faith, which is the beginning of human salvation, the catholic church professes to be a supernatural virtue, by means of which, with the grace of God inspiring and assisting us, we believe to be true what He has revealed, not because we perceive its intrinsic truth by the natural light of reason, but because of the authority of God himself, who makes the revelation and can neither deceive nor be deceived.Faith, declares the Apostle, is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen [17]. Nevertheless, in order that the submission of our faith should be in accordance with reason, it was God's will that there should be linked to the internal assistance of the holy Spirit external indications of his revelation, that is to say divine acts, and first and foremost miracles and prophecies, which clearly demonstrating as they do the omnipotence and infinite knowledge of God, are the most certain signs of revelation and are suited to the understanding of all. Hence Moses and the prophets, and especially Christ our lord himself, worked many absolutely clear miracles and delivered prophecies; while of the apostles we read: And they went forth and preached every, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the message by the signs that attended it [18] . Again it is written: We have the prophetic word made more sure; you will do well to pay attention to this as to a lamp shining in a dark place [19]
Now if prophesies are most certain signs of revelation suited to the understanding of all, then why do you not understand the prophecy of Our Lady of La Salette?
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