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Offline MaterDominici

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Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2018, 10:52:35 PM »
That video came up on my Youtube offerings, but I looked at the "Bishop" in the picture and figured it was some Protestant "minister". I never bothered to watch it. Turns out I was right. He's Novus Ordo, same dung in different packaging. He may not even be a valid priest let alone a bishop. Is he effeminate too?
I'll take that a step further... prior to Bp Barron, Shapiro had on a protestant minister (about 3 weeks ago). I watched a 6 minute clip of that interview and found the minister to be pretty straightforward in his explanation as to why Jews should embrace Christianity. I actually thought Shapiro might be considering a conversion at that point.
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Then, I watched a couple of clips from this joke of a "bishop" and I felt it was more likely that Shapiro brought this guy on the show just to laugh at Catholicism because I suspect that he knows good and well what the actual teaching of the Catholic Church is on the matter.

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« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2018, 10:54:33 PM »
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Here is Novus Ordo Watch's take:

https://novusordowatch.org/2018/12/robert-barron-ben-shapiro-no-need-to-become-catholic/


How can they correctly cite Pope Gregory XVI, yet write this:

https://novusordowatch.org/2016/01/francis-subtle-heresy-true-christian/


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Note in particular point no. 2: You must profess the True Faith. Pius XII does not say you need only to believe it, regardless of what you profess. This distinction, again, is crucial because it directly impacts the visibility of the Church: While it is possible, through invincible ignorance, to mistakenly assent to a heresy and yet retain the virtue of Faith, if you outwardly profess your adherence to this heresy, you cease to be a member of the Church. (This contradicts Francis’ other error, this time an error of excess contrary to his error of defect being exposed here, according to which all the baptized are members of the Church, regardless of what Faith they profess. This too is heresy.)

For this reason, the Catholic Church cannot regard individual members of heretical sects as Catholics even if they are not culpable with regard to their heresies and perhaps even possess the virtue of Faith. (The rejection of this all-important consideration is one of the fundamental errors of the False Ecclesiology of Vatican II, which grants “partial communion” to heretics on account of a valid baptism. Please also listen to our podcast on this question.)


Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2018, 11:15:58 PM »
Yep.  It's interesting how Invincible Ignorance, which was first applied to a jungle native who had never heard about Our Lord, now extends to someone who full well knows about the Church and Christianity.  It started with ignorance of fact, an intellectual thing, and then moved to "doesn't know it to be the true religion" (more an "ignorance of the will" as it were) ... so that those two or three people who have ever lived who knew it to be the true religion and refused to join it anyway are certainly lost.

"Yep.  Christ is God, and the Church is the True Church He founded and commanded us to join.  But no thanks.  I don't want to enter that Church."  How many of those are there?
Jesus died to save us from our sins but He didn't die and make you psychic reader to be able to see into the secret of men's hearts. we can conjecture and we might be right, but we could also be wrong. Only God can see into the interior secret of men's hearts.

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Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2018, 11:19:20 PM »
Jesus died to save us from our sins but He didn't die and make you psychic reader to be able to see into the secret of men's hearts. we can conjecture and we might be right, but we could also be wrong. Only God can see into the interior secret of men's hearts.

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/pius09/p9nostis.htm

On the Church in the Pontifical States

Pope BI. Pius IX - 1849

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10. In particular, ensure that the faithful are deeply and thoroughly convinced of the truth of the doctrine that the Catholic faith is necessary for attaining salvation.[4] The Catholic laity and clergy should repeatedly offer special thanks to God in public prayers for the priceless gift of the Catholic religion. They should also beseech God to protect the profession of this faith in our country and to keep it unharmed.


Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2018, 11:30:56 PM »
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/pius09/p9nostis.htm

On the Church in the Pontifical States

Pope BI. Pius IX - 1849
And we should also promote the spread of that Faith.