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Author Topic: Is It a Mortal Sin to Attend the New Mass.  (Read 6108 times)

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Online Pax Vobis

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Re: Is It a Mortal Sin to Attend the New Mass.
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2020, 02:05:49 PM »

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Even if one has a strong opinion on the matter, no Catholic is in a position to bind others' consciences.

Giving an opinion on the question, and backing it up with theological reasons, is not "binding" anyone.  TIA is playing middle-of-the-road, so they can keep viewership.

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Re: Is a Mortal Sin to Attend the New Mass.
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2020, 02:15:23 PM »
And what happened to the faith of those attending(and saying) the Tridentine Mass, that they let the New Mass come into being in the first place?

Fr. Wathen makes a decent point, but I don't think "people who do X are generally much more lax in faith" is enough proof to say that "doing X" is mortally sinful. It's an indicator to be wary, sure, but not proof it's grave sin by any means.
The point is, like it or not, he gave a crystal clear answer, and also clearly explains the reason for that answer. He did not take the middle ground spinlessly saying "mmmm, well, it depends..."  That person and many others needs a clear answer to that clear question. In typical fashion, TIA act like it is unanswerable, or a great mystery, or that it depends on the individual's thoughts and feelings.

As to your first question, it is exactly as Fr. Wathen said - it is a matter of faith.

The people willingly gave up their faith, some did so with great glee. One of my aunts for example who proudly boasted that she was the first female eucharistic minister in the country, that was around 1967ish. My folks argued with her and her husband till they were blue in the face over the whole crisis situation, and did the same with the rest of our relations, all to absolutely no avail. THOSE were times of mass confusion, but after 60 years of this crisis, Fr. Is right; "all you need to do is consider what has happened to the faith of those who have been attending the new mass through the years".


To quote Last Tradhican from another thread: "Unfortunately, only maybe 1% (if that) of baptized Catholics live the faith". It *is* a matter of faith.


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Re: Is It a Mortal Sin to Attend the New Mass.
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2020, 02:32:23 PM »
Giving an opinion on the question, and backing it up with theological reasons, is not "binding" anyone.  TIA is playing middle-of-the-road, so they can keep viewership.

I don't think so.  I think that they are just making distinctions.  So often here on CI distinctions are mis-characterized as compromises even when they are not.

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Re: Is It a Mortal Sin to Attend the New Mass.
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2020, 02:55:24 PM »
I don't think so.  I think that they are just making distinctions.  So often here on CI distinctions are mis-characterized as compromises even when they are not.
The question seeks a Yes or No answer - what was their answer? "Well, it depends..."

That is not making a distinction.

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Re: Is It a Mortal Sin to Attend the New Mass.
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2020, 03:04:01 PM »
The question seeks a Yes or No answer - what was their answer? "Well, it depends..."

That is not making a distinction.

There are many distinctions in play, Stubborn.  So, for instance, objective vs. subjective mortal sin.  That is a huge distinction.  One could be certain that something is objectively a mortal sin but be unsure of the state of that person's conscience and whether that person was actually committing mortal sin before God.