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Frs. Altamira & Pierre Roy to be consecrated
« on: November 12, 2023, 07:49:10 PM »
Several sources have announced that two priests that were ordained for the SSPX will be consecrated bishops in the weeks to come.

 You may remember Fr. Altamira got a lot of attention when he left the SSPX to join the resistance and took a large number of his priory with him in Colombia several years back.The story was covered enthusiastically by Non Possumus.

Fr. Pierre Roy had also left the SSPX to work with the resistance in Europe. Both priests later left the resistance and aligned themselves with sedevacantist groups. It seems that the resistance was only a transitional group for these priests which led them to the position of sede vacante. In the case of Fr. Roy, he may have made an impression on seminarians while in the resistance which led to his up and coming consecration actually. Interesting how that turns out. 

The consecrating bishop will be Bishop Rodrigo da Silva, ordained himself by Bishop Williamson and consecrated by the late Bishop Dolan. Bishop da Silva has already consecrated Bishop Charles McGuire (who now leads Saint Gertrude the Great and its mission chapels) and Bishop da Silva was the co-consecrator for the Nigerian Bishop Nkamuke.

Seems like the resistance seminary in France is the gift that just keeps on giving. 

The date and time of the consecration has not yet been announced but probably will be in Brazil although Mexico had been considered given the large number of growing Sedevacantist churches in Mexico. 

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Re: Frs. Altamira & Pierre Roy to be consecrated
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2023, 09:13:53 PM »
In the case of Fr. Roy, he may have made an impression on seminarians while in the resistance which led to his up and coming consecration actually.


Seems like the resistance seminary in France is the gift that just keeps on giving.
I followed most of what you said -- that two independent sede priests will soon become bishops.
However, you lost me on these two lines.
Care to elaborate?


Re: Frs. Altamira & Pierre Roy to be consecrated
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2023, 09:29:10 PM »
Several sources have announced that two priests that were ordained for the SSPX will be consecrated bishops in the weeks to come.

 You may remember Fr. Altamira got a lot of attention when he left the SSPX to join the resistance and took a large number of his priory with him in Colombia several years back.The story was covered enthusiastically by Non Possumus.

Fr. Pierre Roy had also left the SSPX to work with the resistance in Europe. Both priests later left the resistance and aligned themselves with sedevacantist groups. It seems that the resistance was only a transitional group for these priests which led them to the position of sede vacante. In the case of Fr. Roy, he may have made an impression on seminarians while in the resistance which led to his up and coming consecration actually. Interesting how that turns out.

The consecrating bishop will be Bishop Rodrigo da Silva, ordained himself by Bishop Williamson and consecrated by the late Bishop Dolan. Bishop da Silva has already consecrated Bishop Charles McGuire (who now leads Saint Gertrude the Great and its mission chapels) and Bishop da Silva was the co-consecrator for the Nigerian Bishop Nkamuke.

Seems like the resistance seminary in France is the gift that just keeps on giving.

The date and time of the consecration has not yet been announced but probably will be in Brazil although Mexico had been considered given the large number of growing Sedevacantist churches in Mexico.
I hate to be "that guy" but, could you provide a source for what you are saying as regards to these two former SSPX Priests being ordained. I'd love to learn more about it.

Re: Frs. Altamira & Pierre Roy to be consecrated
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2023, 09:47:14 PM »
I followed most of what you said -- that two independent sede priests will soon become bishops.
However, you lost me on these two lines.
Care to elaborate?

Bishop Da Silva supposedly met Fr. Roy while at the resistance seminary in France. This is where the seeds of sedevacantism took root in the European reistance and spread across the Atlantic. Some priests were excluded by Bishop Faure, but at least two of the seminarians remianed. One of those was Bishop da Silva, who will now be consecrating Fr. Roy. 

Of course, I have no sources to prove if that is not just mere speculation. 

Re: Frs. Altamira & Pierre Roy to be consecrated
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2023, 09:51:29 PM »
There was a split between the "non una cuм" priests and the "una cuм" priests in France. Bishop Williamson, Bishop Faure, Bishop Thomas Aquinas and Bishop Zendejas refused to continue to collaborate with the "non una cuм" priests : Father Nicolas Pinaud (France), Father Pierre Roy (Canada) and Father Olivier Rioult (France). Therefore, these sedevacantists priests no longer work with the Resistance bishops.