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Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
« on: May 23, 2023, 06:38:13 PM »
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  • It looks like CM is doubling down on SSPX scandals.  Voris puts the pedal to the metal in his latest Vortex. 
    I expect a number of Voris-bad posts to follow.

    Enormous Evil Found in the SSPX, Again | The Vortex (churchmilitant.com)

    My last Fr. Maillard news got few responses, although the number of vews of that topic remain high, competing well with all the other views of recent topics.  According to Voris, Maillard wasn't even arrested until CM filed a report on him a few days earlier.

    BTW, did 42 million dollars for the new cathedral at St. Mary's KS come from simple donations from faithful  SSPX parishioners in the US?  Somehow, I doubt it.

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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
    « Reply #1 on: May 23, 2023, 10:22:54 PM »
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  • That was a pathetically childish rant.  Voris doesn't look good, BTW, as in having a somewhat perverse-looking countenance.

    He spent 10x more time on attacking SSPX as "schismatic" than on the actual pedophilia case that he used as a pretext for his rant.

    His contempt for Tradition is palpable, and Voris is due for a massive fall ... if he hasn't already had one.


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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
    « Reply #2 on: May 24, 2023, 12:17:18 AM »
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    That was a pathetically childish rant.  Voris doesn't look good, BTW, as in having a somewhat perverse-looking countenance.

    He spent 10x more time on attacking SSPX as "schismatic" than on the actual pedophilia case that he used as a pretext for his rant.

    His contempt for Tradition is palpable, and Voris is due for a massive fall ... if he hasn't already had one.


    So this is really about Voris and his "perverse-looking countenance."  It's about Voris' alleged contempt for Tradition and all that.
    So Fr. Maillard is basically a side issue.  I wonder if the parents, relatives and friends of 27 abused young men and boys would feel the same way.  I rather doubt it.  They are probably thinking that justice is finally about to be done after 25 years plus.

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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
    « Reply #3 on: May 24, 2023, 01:55:14 AM »
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  • So this is really about Voris and his "perverse-looking countenance."  It's about Voris' alleged contempt for Tradition and all that.
     So Fr. Maillard is basically a side issue.  I wonder if the parents, relatives and friends of 27 abused young men and boys would feel the same way.  I rather doubt it.  They are probably thinking that justice is finally about to be done after 25 years plus.


    So many things to discuss, besides the suffering of the poor victims.

    Look over there---squirrel!


    Sigh, God bless you Hollingsworth for calling the scoundrels to account

    despite the constant deflection and persecution.


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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
    « Reply #4 on: May 24, 2023, 07:17:25 AM »
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  • So Fr. Maillard is basically a side issue.

    For Voris, it absolutely was.  He spent at least 2/3 of the video attacking Traditional Catholics in general, and mentioned the Maillard case only a handful of times, almost in passing.  What I've long alleged was made absolutely clear in this video.  On one level, Voris is quite pleased that Maillaird abused those children, since it gave him something with which to attack Traditional Catholics.  Don't be such a dimwit.  You use an effeminate appeal to the tragedy of Maillard's abuse to justify the substance of his attack.  You're incapable of separating the two things going on this video.  It's very similar to how jury's often wrongfully convict innocent people simply because the crimes committed were so heinous.  One must distinguish between the crimes and the unrelated fact of whether or not the individual on trial actually committed them.  But their emotions conflate the two, leading to wrongful convictions.  You're doing the same thing here.  I think you need to put down the Valtorta.


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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX sex scandals
    « Reply #5 on: May 24, 2023, 11:58:36 AM »
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    ladislas:  One must distinguish between the crimes and the unrelated fact of whether or not the individual on trial actually committed them
    In the case of Fr. Maillard, there is no doubt that he committed these crimes.  His own apostolate determined that he had, and took him out of circulation.

    Meanwhile, Lad, I'll try not to be "such a dimwit," if you will promise to do the same.
    God bless!

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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
    « Reply #6 on: May 24, 2023, 04:04:12 PM »
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  • In the case of Fr. Maillard, there is no doubt that he committed these crimes.  His own apostolate determined that he had, and took him out of circulation.

    Meanwhile, Lad, I'll try not to be "such a dimwit," if you will promise to do the same.
    God bless!

    I'm not trying to minimize the crimes of Fr. Maillard, nor those of the SSPX in covering them up, though I am less familiar with the details of this one (in terms of SSPX coverup) than I am with the cases of Fathers Abbet and Groche.  I have called for Bishop Fellay to be arrested for the cases where he transferred a credibly-accused priest (in some cases, such as Fathers Abbet and Groche, basically proven) ... and then said priest proceeded to abuse other victims.  Bishop Fellay should be considered an accessory to those subsequent crimes.

    At the same, time Voris' contempt for Traditional Catholicism is palpable in that last rant.  He spent far more time ranting about schism, and the hubris of thinking that the Tridentine Mass is better than the NOM, etc. than he did on the Fr. Maillard case.  In fact, the only thing I came away with from that video was that Maillard abused 27 children, and know little about how the SSPX mishandled the situation.  He was practically frothing at the mouth about Traditional Catholicism.  At one point, he derided the fact that the DEFENSE attorneys asked for the legal proceedings to be sealed, because they dealt with minors.  That's absolutely understandable.  In fact, I made that criticism about how they doxed the poor young girl who was victimized by Fr. Stafki.  I posted a comment on their website that they simply deleted.  One of the crimes Fr. Stafki was accused of was using electronic media to graphically describe sɛҳuąƖ acts with a minor.  But that's exactly what CM was going in their nearly-pornographic description of Fr. Stafki's activities.  Unfortunately, however, they didn't stop for one second to consider the humiliation and psychological harm they could do to the victim.  That tells me that they're not concerned primarily about the victim, but are motivated by other agendas ... doing damage to SSPX, getting clicks / views / revenue, etc.  Imagine being that girl now.  Even though she's the victim, she's also a child and she probably can't walk into a church anymore without shame in realizing that everyone in there knows every sordid detail of what happened to her.

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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
    « Reply #7 on: May 25, 2023, 01:58:06 PM »
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    MP: Sigh, God bless you Hollingsworth for calling the scoundrels to account

    despite the constant deflection and persecution.


    Thank you, MP.  Is is not often that a CI member has called down a blessing on me from God.
    I think the word "scoundrels" aptly applies in the matter.  We are dealing with clerical scoundrels, including the pedophile SSPX priests among them.  It is a very sad situation.
    I call your attention and others' to an article from 2020 about Fr. Philippe Peignot.  Please tell me where Niles goes wrong in her reporting, or how she may have stepped over the line.  It is absolutely amazing, IMHO, that this priest should still be wearing the Roman collar.  His predations go back to 1978, at least.  He was originally ordained in SSPX while ABL was still very much alive.  Read how SSPX hierarchs throw one another under the bus.  It makes no sense to me at all.


    SSPX Gave Pedophile Repeated Access to Boys (churchmilitant.com)


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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
    « Reply #8 on: May 26, 2023, 04:16:45 AM »
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  • That was a pathetically childish rant.  Voris doesn't look good, BTW, as in having a somewhat perverse-looking countenance.

    He spent 10x more time on attacking SSPX as "schismatic" than on the actual pedophilia case that he used as a pretext for his rant.

    His contempt for Tradition is palpable, and Voris is due for a massive fall ... if he hasn't already had one.

    I agree with you Ladislaus. His HATRED for the SSPX is now becoming evident in his looks. As a comment said, even among the Apostles chosen by Christ there was a rotten egg, but you cannot spread such hatred on to the other eleven.

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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
    « Reply #9 on: May 26, 2023, 06:19:18 AM »
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  • One child abused by any priest is one too many.  Recently, in one diocese over a couple thousand children sɛҳuąƖly abused by 400 priests or religious brothers.  That’s insane.  Many priests in Sspx are sodomites too.  Silence when it comes to sodomite drag queens dressing like nuns mocking our Catholic Faith at Dodgers baseball game.  Pride nite anywhere shouldn’t exist.

    Per Michael Davies booklet, it’s been Catholic bishops leading the way to mortal sin all these years. Im telling you that the peaceful rosary rallies should be outside bishops offices and residences because for years it’s been the sources of all the evil in the worlds.  We don’t have a pope, we haven’t had a pope for many years.  we have a tool of the Luciferian unholy United Nations of satan.



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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
    « Reply #10 on: May 26, 2023, 07:50:49 AM »
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  • One child abused by any priest is one too many.

    Yes, we all get this.  But we have to distinguish between the evil crime itself and Voris' agenda, and his contempt for Traditional Catholicism.  When they doxed Father Stafki's victim and produced a borderline-pornographic account of what transpired, they tipped their hand that they're not primarily concerned about the victims, but rather about their contempt for Traditional Catholicism.  In this last video from Voris, he didn't spend 10% of his rant on the crimes of Fr. Maillard or the alleged SSPX coverup (about which I know very little after watching the video).  He spent most of the video ranting against Traditional Catholicism and the hubris of thinking that the Tridentine Mass is better than the NOM.

    They deliberately play these games of psychological association, trying to pain those who object to ANYTHING that Voris says or does in the context of one of these videos as "condoning pederasty".  It's like various accusers who claim "victim shaming" if someone doesn't believe every detail of their allegations, or those who play the race card by claiming racism if you have anything bad to say about a given Jєω or "Person of Color".  We have to be aware of these manipulation tactics and resist them.


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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
    « Reply #11 on: May 26, 2023, 08:56:58 AM »
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  • Since when in Catholic Church history did ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs teach about morals, Jєωιѕн women teach about faith, divorced teach about marriage, and Protestants teach about the papacy?

    Why do Catholics give these wolves in sheep's clothing a platform at all?

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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
    « Reply #12 on: May 26, 2023, 09:07:32 AM »
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  • Since when in Catholic Church history did ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs teach about morals, Jєωιѕн women teach about faith, divorced teach about marriage, and Protestants teach about the papacy?

    Why do Catholics give these wolves in sheep's clothing a platform at all?
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    Yes, this is common sense. Before Vatican 2, someone as debauched and degenerate as Michael Voris would never have been given a platform to talk about anything of a religious nature. If such a person wanted to repent, he would have been told to devote the rest of his life to a hidden life of prayer and penance.

    Maybe that's why Michael Voris hates traditional Catholicism so much, because he knows we don't approve of his shameless promotion of himself (well, most of us don't :facepalm:).

    Michael Voris is fake and gαy.

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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
    « Reply #13 on: May 26, 2023, 12:04:40 PM »
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  • One child abused by any priest is one too many.  Recently, in one diocese over a couple thousand children sɛҳuąƖly abused by 400 priests or religious brothers.  That’s insane.  Many priests in Sspx are sodomites too.  Silence when it comes to sodomite drag queens dressing like nuns mocking our Catholic Faith at Dodgers baseball game.  Pride nite anywhere shouldn’t exist.

    Per Michael Davies booklet, it’s been Catholic bishops leading the way to mortal sin all these years. Im telling you that the peaceful rosary rallies should be outside bishops offices and residences because for years it’s been the sources of all the evil in the worlds.  We don’t have a pope, we haven’t had a pope for many years.  we have a tool of the Luciferian unholy United Nations of satan.
    The person who thumbed this g down must be a pedophile themselves. 
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: Church Militant doubling down on SSPX scandals
    « Reply #14 on: May 26, 2023, 12:19:57 PM »
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  • The person who thumbed this g down must be a pedophile themselves. 

    :facepalm: ... this is precisely what I was talking about, and the same thing Voris is doing.  You also made a statement about sedevacantism that someone may have been objecting to.  Not accepting everything in your post is not to be a pedophile or to condone pedophilia.  Or maybe the individual just doesn't like you.  This is the same tactic Voris uses.  I'm going to go on a 30-minute rant against Traditional Catholicism, while mentioning sex abuse for about 2-3 minutes of it.  But if you object to my 27 minutes of diatribe against Traditional Catholicism in general, that means you condone pedophilia, right?  You don't disagree with Voris' rants in favor of Jorge being the Catholic pope?  He would downthumb your post.