What you think you should do about the muslim colonization of Europe?The Muslims must go home.
Must work for a political change, take the left out of power, and give Europe back to the people, and return it to its roots.
That or extinction and we will be genocided once theyre the majority
I think if trad Catholics actually proved that they were interested in the same goals as the Alt Right then any animosity would disappear. The Alt Right is doing all the fighting. The Catholics are doing nothing. Zilch.:applause:
If the church survives (is not outlawed and still has freedoms) then thank the Alt Right in the future.
Let no one think that insular Catholicism detached from practical political matters will accomplish anything.
Catholics once had a monopoly on political power because of the culture. How did it go from everything to nothing.
Don't blame outside forces. There is something wrong with the ones who let it all slip away.
Outside forces could not have done it without Catholics who buried their head in the sand so to speak.
I think if trad Catholics actually proved that they were interested in the same goals as the Alt Right then any animosity would disappear. The Alt Right is doing all the fighting. The Catholics are doing nothing. Zilch.Where is there a real Catholic anywhere?
If the church survives (is not outlawed and still has freedoms) then thank the Alt Right in the future.
Let no one think that insular Catholicism detached from practical political matters will accomplish anything.
Catholics once had a monopoly on political power because of the culture. How did it go from everything to nothing.
Don't blame outside forces. There is something wrong with the ones who let it all slip away.
Outside forces could not have done it without Catholics who buried their head in the sand so to speak.
Lumping the Trads into the Alt-right is a convenient way to disguise their persecution of us.No one is lumping these two groups together. As far as I can tell, I am the only one pointing to the parallel, correlating nature of these two movements.
No one is lumping these two groups together. As far as I can tell, I am the only one pointing to the parallel, correlating nature of these two movements.I didn't mean to accuse you of the lumping the groups.
I wrote the article and maintain my position because I believe the two groups have something to offer one another.
As victim of the sspx stated it best: "Let no one think that insular Catholicism detached from practical political matters will accomplish anything. Catholics once had a monopoly on political power because of the culture. How did it go from everything to nothing."
The Alt-Right wants to reverse things. But ultimately, it doesn't know where to go. Some think back to 1776. Others are able to say, "Let's go back 500 years." Hardly any of them are able to put 2 and 2 together, and conclude that the Enlightenment itself was poison. That's where the Catholics can help them.
As for us...the Alt-Right can teach us to be the vicious political animals we need to be again.
No. The Alt-Right is not Jєωιѕн-controlled. Milo has renounced the title of Alt-Right because he's afraid of being lumped in with it, since Richard Spencer has sabotaged the brand with his idiocy. And Ben Shapiro? He hates the Alt-Right. And the Alt-Right hates him, actually.
But I can't help think the Alt-right is controlled by the ʝʊdɛօ-masonic media?
For example, their Jєωιѕн media icons, Milo and Shapriro.
Or their messianic "Christian" president who is helping Israel re-build their Temple in Jerusalem.
No. The Alt-Right is not Jєωιѕн-controlled. Milo has renounced the title of Alt-Right because he's afraid of being lumped in with it, since Richard Spencer has sabotaged the brand with his idiocy. And Ben Shapiro? He hates the Alt-Right. And the Alt-Right hates him, actually.Why is Spencer an idiot?
As for Trump? He's an agent of chaos. I like him very much. He's the best president we've ever had in my entire life.
It's possible that the Alt-Right is being infiltrated. I've often wondered if Spencer is a plant. And that Charlottesville debacle last August REEKED of a set-up. Jason Kessler--the guy who threw that thing together--was only a year earlier an Obama voter who worked with Occupy Wallstreet.
That being said, the Alt-Right is nebulous and has no head to it. That's the strength of the movement, really.
No. The Alt-Right is not Jєωιѕн-controlled. Milo has renounced the title of Alt-Right because he's afraid of being lumped in with it, since Richard Spencer has sabotaged the brand with his idiocy. And Ben Shapiro? He hates the Alt-Right. And the Alt-Right hates him, actually.Many people wonder if Spencer is a plant. I do not think so, but I know he has connections to the Bush family and quite possibly has Jєωιѕн ancestry. I am not his biggest fan, but he does make some good points every now and then.
As for Trump? He's an agent of chaos. I like him very much. He's the best president we've ever had in my entire life.
It's possible that the Alt-Right is being infiltrated. I've often wondered if Spencer is a plant. And that Charlottesville debacle last August REEKED of a set-up. Jason Kessler--the guy who threw that thing together--was only a year earlier an Obama voter who worked with Occupy Wallstreet.
That being said, the Alt-Right is nebulous and has no head to it. That's the strength of the movement, really.
Why is Spencer an idiot?Many of his public stunts end up becoming embarrassing fiascoes. He's a trust fund baby who hasn't worked seriously. He's hijacked the Alt-Right brand, when he doesn't even resemble the Right wing at all. He's a racist white socialist, nothing more. He believes in socialized medicine and all sorts of Canadian values.
Any group that doesn't explicitly disallow Jews from participation will be controlled by Jews. The Jew Paul Gottfried, who has been called the father of the alt-right, has said that white-nationalism is good for the Jews. Anglin is a Jew fraud.This is a good point I've been waiting for someone to bring up. Yes, Gottfried is a Jew. And what has the Alt-Right been about, if not the severing of ties with neoconservative Zionists? And yet, there is Gottfried--a Jew--giving us the idea and naming it for us. Is it coincidence, or conspiracy? Will history be able to tell?
This stormfront thread (https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1187581/) by the guy who runs this website (https://thezog.info/) has some good info.
This stormfront thread (https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1187581/) by the guy who runs this website (https://thezog.info/) has some good info.Holy.........moly.
Holy.........moly.Seriously. This gives me pause.
https://thezog.info/who-controls-the-alternative-right/
Talk about being upended. Interesting.
I think the main problem with your characterization is that there is no objective definition to "alt-right". The term is merely a derogatory term used to describe someone with whom the user disagrees and is intended to shut off any debate since any argument made by someone described as "alt-right" is, by definition, offensive.No, it's not derogatory. "Alternative Intellectual Right" was coined by paleoconservative Paul Gottfried at the Mencken Club in 2008. It is an anti-political correctness stance for people on the Right.
I'm still not sure where the term originated,
No, it's not derogatory. "Alternative Intellectual Right" was coined by paleoconservative Paul Gottfried at the Mencken Club in 2008. It is an anti-political correctness stance for people on the Right.
White Nationalist Socialists have been trying to co-opt the movement since its beginning.
I am alt right and traditional catholic.Agreed. Anglin does what he does because that's the only way you can get people's attention in this day and age. He does a great job. And his satire is really quite funny.
I mean, I'm a wife and mother, so take it for what it's worth....but I definitely align myself with Catholicism first and foremost, and then Anglin as far as the alt right goes. He is saying what pretty much everyone else refuses to say. He's brash and offensive sometimes (it doesn't bother me), but incredibly insightful, especially in regards to the current attacks on white men. He stresses the need to build up testosterone and just all around become a better man. He speaks to an abandoned generation of young people whose parents dropped the ball. People brush him off as an idiot racist but I think he is far and away the brightest voice in the alt right (He's done more to expose the jews than the past six popes!). just my 2 cents worth. Also, I know quite a few alt right traditional Catholics.
Any group that doesn't explicitly disallow Jews from participation will be controlled by Jews. The Jew Paul Gottfried, who has been called the father of the alt-right, has said that white-nationalism is good for the Jews. Anglin is a Jew fraud.Not entirely true. Over 150,000 Jews fought in WWII for Hitler. Over 40 Jews served in high military command positions.
This stormfront thread (https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1187581/) by the guy who runs this website (https://thezog.info/) has some good info.
Seriously. This gives me pause.I've known the alt-right is a Jєωιѕн creation when I first became aware of it. And not due to any intense investigation, but because it's main public proponents are Jews and it doesn't exclude Jews. You have a bad memory (https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/milo-yiannopoulos-a-Jєωιѕн-fraud/msg529612/#msg529612).
Rum, you still there? Is this a sort of new development, and you're just ahead of the curve on this?
Not entirely true. Over 150,000 Jews fought in WWII for Hitler. Over 40 Jews served in high military command positions.Name me some alt-righters that you respect.
The comments on the thread you posted does a great job in questioning your reasoning.
I've known the alt-right is a Jєωιѕн creation when I first became aware of it. And not due to any intense investigation, but because it's main public proponents are Jews and it doesn't exclude Jews. You have a bad memory (https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/milo-yiannopoulos-a-Jєωιѕн-fraud/msg529612/#msg529612).True. I do have a bad memory. And I disagreed with you at that time in 2016. However, I might not blow you off this time.
Name me some alt-righters that you respect.Pat Buchanan
Name me some alt-righters that you respect.Jarod Taylor and Kevin Macdonald are 2 that come to mind. There quite a few others.
Another Alt-Right writer begins questioning the idea that the Alt-Right is controlled.And this guy is telling the truth because....?
This guy is sorta kinda an insider. And, again, I've been under the wings of this dragon for a few years, now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2LzxFYvdBg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2LzxFYvdBg)
The Wailing Wall is not the remains of the last Jєωιѕн Temple destroyed by the Romans in 70 A.D. The Site is the remains of the Roman Fortress of Antonio. When our Lord said that there will not be a stone on top of a stone concerning the fate ofMy understanding is that the Masada story is a hoax as well... :sleep:
the Temple, he meant it.
The Jews create the grievances of the gentiles, so why wouldn't they be expert (more so than even their victims) in functioning as spokespeople for these grievances? The alt-right is Jєωιѕн through and through.You've shown me a lot of sources in this thread. All worth attention.
After much consideration, I have concluded that Jews are definitely toying with the Alt-Right. They are treating it like a sort of laboratory experiment or a golf game or something. It is the flavor of the week for them.Mission of the Alt Right-- provoke an anti-western civilisatin(read Christian Latin) reaction. :sleep:
The questions that I have at this stage are these:
1. Are they controlling what mainstream society thinks of it?
2. Are they controlling levers of power within the Alt-Right movement to direct it?
3. Did they create it completely, and it's always been theirs?
I think these are valid questions to ask.
Mission of the Alt Right-- provoke an anti-western civilisatin(read Christian Latin) reaction. :sleep:Wait, wait. You're afraid of provoking people? This is a position of weakness. It is the nature of political correctness to be afraid of provoking.
Wait, wait. You're afraid of provoking people? This is a position of weakness. It is the nature of political correctness to be afraid of provoking.:confused:
My understanding is that the Masada story is a hoax as well... :sleep:Search this archive 4 Masada story :fryingpan:
Mission of the Alt Right-- provoke an anti-western civilisatin(read Christian Latin) reaction. :sleep:This statement tells me that the Alt-Right exists to provoke an anti-Western reaction.
This statement tells me that the Alt-Right exists to provoke an anti-Western reaction.I only wrote what MO is of the Alt Right. I do not know if it is a good or bad thing-- we will soon find out. :cheers:
It also reads as if it's implied that provocation is bad, and that the Alt-Right ought not provoke an anti-Western reaction.
Am I reading this incorrectly?
I didn't speak of genociding the Jews. I said something along the lines that the Church functions as an ally of the Jews (of sorts) insofar as She makes the existence of the Jews until the end of days important. The Jews need to exist, in some numbers, for Catholic theology to make sense. If not for belief in the Church I don't think I would see a reason for not wiping them out, as their relationship with non-Jews is purely parasitical and malicious. In the past the Church exercised sufficient power to not allow Jews equal rights with Catholics and enforced segregation. I wish that were still the case.Even E. Michael Jones--hardly a Traditionalist Catholic--recommends that Jews be kept from all power and influence.
Another Alt-Right writer begins questioning the idea that the Alt-Right is controlled.
This guy is sorta kinda an insider. And, again, I've been under the wings of this dragon for a few years, now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2LzxFYvdBg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2LzxFYvdBg)
Jarod Taylor and Kevin Macdonald are 2 that come to mind. There quite a few others.I forgot to mention that Jared Taylor's wife is Jєωιѕн (https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/05/04/setting-record-straight-longtime-partner-jared-taylor-addresses-white-nationalist-criticism).
I have no doubt that there has been a Jєωιѕн attempt to co-opt whatever the "alt right" is, but there are genuine people who see the problem for what it is who have been labeled "alt right" by others and not necessarily by themselves.
There will be no talk advocating genocide or "advocating or inciting violence against others based on their ethnicity, religion..." as they say in some rule books.What [post] merited this sudden warning?
That would be a clear reason for a government, etc. to prosecute and/or shut down a forum.
Not happening here.
We can criticize the heretics and false religions here, and expose whatever truths you want, but take your plans for violence elsewhere!
You mentioned [Andrew] Anglin earlier. He's a crypto.
"If not for belief in the Church I don't think I would see a reason for not wiping them out, as their relationship with non-Jews is purely parasitical and malicious. In the past the Church exercised sufficient power to not allow Jews equal rights with Catholics and enforced segregation. I wish that were still the case."In this world, where many things are seen as a threat, something like this is going to get the FBI to inquire or worse. They have a San Antonio office, it would not be that hard.
In my opinion, Alt-Rt is controlled opposition to some extent.
Just like the neo-cons became just another useful tool for the jews/zionists.
Just like much of the NO Church.
Any movement must be intrinsically anti-Jєωιѕн or you will eventually be co-opted by them.
Now anti-Jєωιѕн does not mean "genocide", although the jews at the SPLC and other of their watchdogs orgs will scream that the minute you resist them, that has always been their MO and always will be. But to resist something or be "anti" does not mean "slaughtering" them. I can be anti-muslim and not want to kill a billion muslims, that's nonsense. But I can resist their attempt to invade or control my govt or transform my culture to their own system of values and norms based upon their "prophets" madness. Same goes with the jews and their eternal revolt against the Truth and the true Faith, which is what the foundations and building blocks of our Western civilizations are built upon, our whole notion of "Logos" which predates the Church but the advent of Christ confirms it. Jєωιѕн treachery wants to destroy this, which is why we must resist them, but we have to do it in a way that doesn't destroy us in the process.
And one way not to do it is with this whole "white vs black" nonsense or "genocide" the jews garbage.
I think the Alt-Rt is doomed to failure because it is set up in a way where it can't succeed because it's not based on the Truth or "Logos" as scholars like E Michael Jones describes it. And it is seeped too much in racial issues, which is just a diversion from real issues that are sacking the culture to begin with. It's almost as if it's been set up to be knocked down in a public display to finally crush any semblence of the foundations that the nation and culture where built upon to begin with.
Trad Catholicism on the other hand has had success in fighting worldwide jewry or the anti-Logos spirit for the better part of two thousand years, while some cultures have succombed to it, others will rise and overcome it. this will not change until Christ eventually returns but for now it is our eternal struggle. This is the message of the gospels.
I think you need more of an eastern-styled Orthodox set up of symphony of Church and state to resist the globalist, Jєωιѕн cabal and their leftists agitators, not some man-made alt-rt types based in a secular, racist/cultural cause. It must be seeped in Nationalism and Catholicism to be successful. But we are a long way away from there. IMO.
At any rate, I see the A-R going the way of the neo-cons in a few years.
Which is why it behooves Catholics to get involved, show the way, and help point things in a more productive direction, rather than sit on the sidelines, be insular, and say stupid things like: "I'm neither Left nor Right, I'm Catholic!" (™)
I think the Alt-Rt is doomed to failure because it is set up in a way where it can't succeed because it's not based on the Truth or "Logos" as scholars like E Michael Jones describes it.
And it is seeped too much in racial issues, which is just a diversion from real issues that are sacking the culture to begin with.
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Who is Milo?Milo Yiannopoulos. "Alt-right" figure who's British, a sodomite and seemingly a professional pot-stirrer.
(The downthumb wasn't mine, btw.)
What you think you should do about the muslim colonization of Europe?I see Muslim migration of Europe as a result of their own colonization and also as an opportunity for evangelization.
Must work for a political change, take the left out of power, and give Europe back to the people, and return it to its roots.
That or extinction and we will be genocided once theyre the majority
Where is there a real Catholic anywhere?You should say, "There are no Popes and kings doing what I want them to do."
Catholics were lead by popes and kings. There are no popes and kings.
Neoconservatism wasn't co-opted by JewsI believe it was. There was general conservatism from the likes of Catholic thinkers like Joe Sobran and others, not too mention the father of modern day conservatism Edmund Burke long before yids like Kristol and his tribe sacked the right not too long ago and culminated with the bloodthirsty zionist right wing stooges we have posing as "conservatives" today.
True. I've been saying this for years. I came to this realization a long time ago. It's just common sense. The Jєωιѕн soul can't tolerate being being equal to gentiles and definitely can't tolerate playing second fiddle. They must dominate. Therefore any group that accepts Jєωιѕн membership will be controlled by them. I knew the alt-right was a fraud from the beginning, just by following this simple logic.Unless they come out being fundamentally anti-Jєωιѕн, the jews will subvert them. It's that simple. You cannot be on the side of Truth and accept the devil amongst your ranks. You will lose from within.
The race issue isn't nonsense. Catholics of the past weren't color-blind, nor are they now. But it's an issue controlled by Jews so it seems impossible at the moment to wrest control away from them. They aren't called the masters of discourse for nothingIt's nonsense in the sense that it should not be the core issue, I believe it's just a deflection of some serious moral decay and rot of the culture to begin with. Yes, the jews flame the flames of white "racism", yet their the biggest protagonists of racism, with racisn being a core tenent to their "religion". I believe the best way to fight these accusation of "white supremacy" is to out those accusers themselves (mainly, the tribe) and keep exposing the fact of their racist religion and the openly racist state of Israel and the complete chutzpah of the jews directing this racial hatred between everyone else.
The Alt-Right of the Alt-Right?
https://www.cathinfo.com/the-catholic-bunker/dr-william-pierce-on-skinheads/But at least they support the beer, piercing, & tatoo segments of the economy, not to mention the prison industry when they get busted for various nefarious mind altering activities.
Lots of kweirdos in the Alt-Right. The best way to subvert the opposition is to lead it.
Lots of these queerdos cutting their hair like neo German National Socialists. The vanity and fixation on their "fascist" appearance is another indicator that they're kweirdos.
Typical discredit-and-disquality intellectual dishonesty. Bloated ignorance that comes from individuals who cannot look honestly at an issue or platform, uses "hotwords" to muzzle conversation, and keeps people from advancing and discussing the actual issues. Attitudes like this are why, I now realize, that Rad Trads will always be irrelevant socially and politically. Insular, ignorable, and detached. The idea of "Rad Trad, Meet Alt-Right" was initially borne of the idea that Trads had their minds open to facts, truth, and logic. But when it comes to political awareness, they are hardly all a collection of Patrick Buchanans. They can only moan and whine about the current political and social paradigm, incapable of making a forecast, and unable to distinguish root causes for societal decline. I think when it comes to politics, I am beginning to realize that Trads are just as parochial as the Novus Ordites and seculars from whom they set themselves apart. I do not think anyone will learn from past lessons, no matter how much it is spelled out to them. In this, the Traditional Catholic world disappoints me. Societal collapse will go on as scheduled, the Trads will not be political heroes, and should they manage to set up their own bubbles or islands somewhere, those places will be subverted in the same style and manner as every Catholic experiment before them (http://forge-and-anvil.com/category/catholics-failed-in-america/).
It's a sad truth to come to realize. I now know that I was being too optimistic. The Trads are like everyone else, and they can barely save themselves.
Even your boy, Aurini, would agree with me that the Alt-Right is led by a lot of queerdos.
Also, much of the "Alt-Right" is of Antichrist besides the kweirdos in the "movement". There will be no winning anything...
to Kessler's fiasco at Charlottesville, those (in America, at least) who've tried to take leadership reignsKessler, also, organized the Occupy Wall St. event when he was an open Leftist. I highly doubt he truly converted to the Right. He's a plant in the Alt-Right. Kessler is also a Jew surname. He's likely a Jew.
I can't tell you enough how disappointing it is to me that Traditional Catholics have been convinced by Hillary Clinton, of all people, to regard these people as deplorables.I only have disdain for the plants like Kessler and the fαɢɢօts in the Alt-Right. The rest of the Godless idiots, I don't wish them any ills.
Yet, the ideas behind the movement are still very strong with a lot of people on the Right. Those who've tried to be a "tip of the spear" forgot that in 2016, the thing that made the Alt-Right so powerful was that it had no leaders. It was just a general consensus. A whole lot of people thought the same thing at the same time, and it helped push the current president into power. Truth be told, "Alt-Right" is just a brand name--actually made up by Richard Spencer, who possibly may be some sort of controlled opposition, as I've discussed on my blog before. But the truth is that Spencer and his "Alt-Right" labeling brandname was just one guy riding on the coattails of an inevitable movement.
As America goes forward, as our society declines, and as the truth of things becomes more obvious, more people will begin to wake up to a lot of the issues that the anti-politically correct Alt-Right once pointed out. Traditional Catholics will never be caught up to any of it, I now realize. And once everyone realizes "the score," it'll be too late.
Call this movement what you will. For me and many, including Andy Nowicki as an example, the Alt-Right phenomenon was an anti-political correctness movement that was all about getting down to the real issues ignored for three to four decades. The truth is that the Alt-Right is simply...Right. Neoconservatism (a Jєωιѕн creation), Conservatism, and all of the faux right-wing approaches--which amounted to nothing--are merely slow-Left movements.
Then continue to be satisfied in their hell-bound direction. I can see you take great pleasure in the destruction of these people. Myself, I do not rejoice at the destruction of souls and the ignorance of men. But clearly, you enjoy the ruination of other people. So enjoy that. Myself, I can't lower myself to that level of malice and apathy.No, only the destruction of queerdos, crypto-Jews & atheists in the movement.
No, only the destruction of queerdos, crypto-Jews & atheists in the movement.
I like Davis Aurini. I don't agree with him on everything, but he has a lot of thought-provoking monologues (I miss those b/c he doesn't do them much anymore) and live chats. He can dissect and explain things real well, too.
It's great he converted to Catholicism. Let's pray he becomes more entrenched in Holy Tradition. He claims to be a "trad Catholic", but he's really not...
It's good he's taking baby steps, and let's pray he ends up an Olympic runner.
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Today, after submitting this article out there to the interwebz, I've met with nothing but opposition from both groups. It's been fascinating.
I mean, I know several Alt-Right personalities who are Catholics. And I've met Catholics who are pro-Trump and agree with what the Alt-Right has been discussing.
But dare to mention the similarities between the two groups, and they appear to hate one another. This is not something I foresaw. And yet...it's entirely predictable.
The Alt-Right does not know what Traditional Catholicism is about. They just imagine a bunch of gαy priests and Pope Francis. Likewise, Trad Catholics don't even know what the Alt-Right is. They just think of the term "neo-nαzι," racism, and Richard Spencer--all of which is quite wrong.
And, it seems, neither group has the time to make distinctions or to hear out what the actual scoop is. No one has the patience for it.
Which is why it behooves Catholics to get involved, show the way, and help point things in a more productive direction, rather than sit on the sidelines, be insular, and say stupid things like: "I'm neither Left nor Right, I'm Catholic!" (™)When did I ever say that? Anyway, I don't let secualr, political idiots define my worldview in whether I'm on the "right" or wrong side of the aisle. I'm on the side of Truth and stick close to the doctrines and dogmas of the Church . I don't base my beliefs on which way the political winds are blowing that day. As for getting invovled, I'm invovled every day in some way and fight for things like honor, family, freedom, right to life and the kingship in Christ the best I can. I don't feel the need to go bash a few commies or leftists in the streets, although I have no problem doing that if they are stupid enough to push up on me. But they're not a problem where i live, they would instantly get an ass beating the second they got out of line where I live. And I simply don't have the time to traverse across the country chasing them morons down . Besides that, from what I see, it's just a big set-up to begin with, the powers that be are always going to rig the system against them (alt-right), they don't care if they have legal permits, Free Speech and the Constitution on their side. You are dealing with straight up commies and crypto-fascists on the left and the deep state, they don't care about the rules. They're terrorists. And there's only one way to deal with terrorists, and it's not logic, reason, protests and free speech.
Richard Spencer's Alt-Retard approach seemed, at one point, to doom the movement. It certainly isn't a brand most are any longer willing to identify with. Hillary Clinton has convinced you and everyone else to abandon the movement. Which is not good, because the next iteration will be all-the-more intense. Remember the Tea Party? Yeah. It just builds up more and more, every time they knock it down or you abandon it.HC has convinced me of nothing. In case you haven't noticed, the witch has been defeated and rendered pretty much irrelevant these days. The normal thinking people have spoken, that's why DT is in the WH . I get what your saying about the "movement", but the reality is, the movement has already begun without idiots like Spencer screwing things up. The majority of the country is still normal, white and conservative for the most part. The polite people do their talking at the polls. That will always be the difference. That's IF we still have a "democracy" these days.
But the fact of the matter is "Alt-Right" isnt' "alternative" anymore. It is simply Right. Everything else--the cuckservatism, the conservatism that conserves nothing, the neo-con push, all of it is to the LeftUnfortunately the cucks still have a powerful position in the Christian evangelical wing of the Right. And they never seen a jew ass they wouldn't kiss, this includes the president. There is no real "right" as far as i'm concerned. There's only the Truth and the Lie.And if you're on the side of the jews, you're on the side of the Lie. I don't what you call yourself.
This is an unraveling fact that is making itself obvious in Europe first. It remains yet to be seen whether or not this will happen in the United States, or that this place will end up like Haiti and South Africa.It's already here in some parts. Been to Detroit or New Orleans lately? But there's also money here as well. I've seen plenty of "no go" areas for whitey years ago, been completely turned around. It's not in the best interests of the moneychangers or anyone else in power to let the country go completely dark or turn into a third world craphole.
Based on the Americans' genetic DNA predisposition to fear the words "bigot" and "racist," I imagine that foreigners will be in total control of this empire in a decade or two. By the time everyone figures all this out and that Buchanan was right, it will be too late.Nah, these "foreigners" completely let go of their baggage from wherever they come from within a generation or two in the end. They all become "Americans" eventually. The question is, what kind of an "America" will it be?
(The downthumb wasn't mine, btw.)Eh, that doesn't bother me anyway. I wouldn't have even noticed if it wasn't even mentioned.
Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad. Not when it comes to contraception. The Alt-Right continually whine about the White Race being wiped out, being genocided by all kinds of things, but they hate to mention the biggest one -- that big elephant in the room known as contraception. In this regard they are like the child who whines about being an orphan after he has murdered his parents.This is true. They continue to be outbreeded.
Is there a relation between the Alt-right and groups like the ku klux klan?100 yrs ago them costume-wearing clowns were afraid to show their faces.
100 yrs ago them costume-wearing clowns were afraid to show their faces.Even 50 years ago they were a power to reckoned with. That is why I liked Huey Long. He called their grand dragon what we in polite society might say is an illegitimate child.
Now they're even afraid to show their hoods.
I would think the short answer is NO.
I down-thumbed him. I like alaric (I think he came to this forum as a result of an invite from me over on FE), but he has a tendency to grandstanding.I came over here years ago as a result of Quis notifying me of this site, especially when FE became too PC and the queers began to take over, over there after Quis left. I don't remember your invite, but it's possible, that was a long time ago.
I can't think of anyone on these tradcath fora over the years who's posted more on race than alaric. Even his name suggests Alaric I, who sacked Rome, and is a name popular in white identity circles.
Even 50 years ago they were a power to reckoned with. That is why I liked Huey Long. He called their grand dragon what we in polite society might say is an illegitimate child.Whatever. I'm not Southern, protestant or display a rebel flag in my garage. I don't live in a trailer park , have tatoos but I do have all my teeth. So, the "invisible" empire is pretty much that to me. Invisible. And I don't even know who Huey Long is without googling him, so why bother.
As long as we're diverting conclusions about this conversation:
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Also for the record, I have neither up-thumbed nor down-thumbed anyone in this conversation.
I don't live in a trailer park
I hear this statement used as an ad hominem. I have my own house. I don't live in a trailer park, but I must say that it's more dignified of people living in trailers than people living in apartments. At least with trailers, the person (generally) owns it or they're making payments to, ultimately, own it. Conversely, the apartment dweller is a rent-slave subject arbitrary incursions by staff. With owners of trailers, there is sovereignty, and even more so if they have their own plot of land, but the apartment dweller is a punk. He's living in a communist-like environment. No ownership. No equity. No freedom. Everyone is basically the same. Paying his money to make another person rich.I must've touched a nerve. My apologies to those whose dream of home ownership comes with a set of wheels.
I must've touched a nerve. My apologies to those whose dream of home ownership comes with a set of wheels.
That's a sound investment you have there buddy;
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/75TW-0UUPgA/hqdefault.jpg)
Since you feel this need to take back the West...
Interesting.Your reading comprehension can't be that bad.
...so I guess this means you don't feel the need to take back the West?
Your reading comprehension can't be that bad.
I'd love to see a re-Christianization of the West. As I say, however, this won't come about by belonging to groups controlled by Jews. You need Jew-free and Mason-free groups to do this. I don't see anywhere the brainy/sufficiently Catholic figures one would need at the helm for such an undertaking.
You seem to be trying to give people a guilt-trip for not being gung-ho about the alt-right. I don't feel any guilt for not allowing myself to be manipulated by Jews.
Of course, problem is, those nations, like most Euro nations were founded on Catholicism, unlike the freemasonic/prot roots here in America.
I think we have to get our own house in order before we , as Catholics, go preaching to anyone. IMO.
Whatever. I'm not Southern, protestant or display a rebel flag in my garage. I don't live in a trailer park , have tatoos but I do have all my teeth. So, the "invisible" empire is pretty much that to me. Invisible. And I don't even know who Huey Long is without googling him, so why bother.The Ku Klux Klan has been associated with the alt right.
The Ku Klux Klan has been associated with the alt right.
We are forced to build from the ground up. We have no choice.That's exactly right. Start with being normal, work hard, pay your taxes, get married, have children, live by the Natural Law and do things that made most traditional socities safe and strong. this is a good start.
Then we wait until Judgement Day.Every day is Judgement Day for everyone at some point. No special day makes a difference.
We will be waiting forever to "be ready." Even the Apostles had disagreements. Even the Corinthians couldn't clean themselves up spotless.We should always learn from their (our ) mistakes. But there will always be idiots in your midst. This will never change.
Our strategy should involve a long march through the institutions, AS WELL AS building our own powerhouse. That means engaging politically, and supporting our own ultras.I agree. We should strive for perfection, take over these institutions, politically, academically, whatever and become the unsilent majority. Like it used to be in America before we sat back, became fat and let the deviants and freaks take over.
The Left--including Jews--were willing to make the long, slow March amid our institutions, working with who they had to and mixing it up. Someone with your attitude could not do such a thing. You live in a godless, pagan land, and you think you can just ignore its inhabitants and rule over it? This isn't France. The Church's entire history here is one long series of missed opportunities.I couldn't do it the way the Jews did. Catholicism says it's a sin to pretend to not be Catholic. It's also a sin to pretend to not be everything that being Catholic entails, which means being anti-Jєωιѕн and anti-masonry.
Not to butt in on your conversation, but, no one has responded about my opinion about an Orthodox-styled revival in the East that has somewhat "rechristianized" many of the former atheist/communist nation from the former eastern blocs.I have to read up more on what's going on those countries. Did you see the Putin video where he uses the anti-semitism canard about gentiles using Jews as a scapegoat for their own problems?
I see somewhat of a Catholic revival in some of them nations as well like Poland and Hungary, which are vehemently resisting the global Jєωιѕн cabal as we speak. This might see a better blueprint for success than some kind of a secualr/prot/irrelgious inspired alt-rt movement in the U.S.
Of course, problem is, those nations, like most Euro nations were founded on Catholicism, unlike the freemasonic/prot roots here in America. So, I believe, therein lies the problem. How we overcome that i'm not sure. But naming the anti-Christ jew/globalist/,banksters could be a start.
Also a big problem is, the current regime in Rome (Vatican) is pro-globalist/Jєωιѕн/ illegal-immigrant/ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ/atheist/protestant......you name it.
I think we have to get our own house in order before we , as Catholics, go preaching to anyone. IMO.
I couldn't do it the way the Jews did. Catholicism says it's a sin to pretend to not be Catholic. It's also a sin to pretend to not be everything that being Catholic entails, which means being anti-Jєωιѕн and anti-masonry.
Achieving a decent pagan land which respects natural law isn't possible in collaboration with Jews and masons, much less a Catholic restoration.
Weak points, Laramie. Christendom started with Catholics who made no bones about being anti-Jєωιѕн.
How do you think Christendom started in the first place? Do you honestly believe it fell out of the sky as a gift to the world? No. Christians were relegated to gathering in cemeteries and catacombs. During Roman rule, even the Christians had to slowly crawl through society, making gains where they could. Arguably, the long March of Catholics is going on right now in China.
If it is a cold freezing night, and you have a bundle of wood, you don't refuse to light a match because some Jew over there is also using a match.
Jews also chew their food. Does this mean you swallow all your food whole?
I believe it was. There was general conservatism from the likes of Catholic thinkers like Joe Sobran and others, not too mention the father of modern day conservatism Edmund Burke long before yids like Kristol and his tribe sacked the right not too long ago and culminated with the bloodthirsty zionist right wing stooges we have posing as "conservatives" today.
Actually Christianity did come as a gift to the world. It is Jesus' gratuitous gift to us.
How do you think Christendom started in the first place? Do you honestly believe it fell out of the sky as a gift to the world? No. Christians were relegated to gathering in cemeteries and catacombs. During Roman rule, even the Christians had to slowly crawl through society, making gains where they could. Arguably, the long March of Catholics is going on right now in China.
If it is a cold freezing night, and you have a bundle of wood, you don't refuse to light a match because some Jew over there is also using a match.
Jews also chew their food. Does this mean you swallow all your food whole?
Weak points, Laramie. Christendom started with Catholics who made no bones about being anti-Jєωιѕн.
The alt-right is the latest Jєωιѕн vehicle to corral a disaffected gentile group under a Jew umbrella.
Laramie, any particular thoughts you would like to share re Patrick Little out in California?
Sorry, I don't know about this guy.
Your reply was to my statement that neoconservatism wasn't co-opted by Jews. It was quite openly started by Jews, so it wasn't co-opted. Like I said, Bill Kristol's father was behind it (https://www.abebooks.com/Neoconservatism-Autobiography-Idea-Irving-Kristol-Free/22671526005/bd).I understand that and yes, the "neo-khans" as I call them was a predomoinately Jєωιѕн operation morphing radical, commie leftists yid from the 60's into the chickenhawks within the Bush II admin perpetrating Zionists wars in the ME.
Now I know longer consider myself a right winger.I don't get into them labeling games when it comes to politics. I will say I am a Latin Catholic,pro-life and the family as well as an American nationalist. And as in, what's good for ALL American's interests, not a select few of jews and their zio-stooges on the right (or left for that matter.) So no. I am not a "right" or "left" whatever.
Sobran ultimately became disenchanted with the entire Conservative movement and began, ironically for someone who was anti-Jєωιѕн, to position himself with the Rothbard campI'm not sure about that, but, I will admit, I haven't Joe for years. But that is dissappointing if true.
Jews on the Right came to dislike the term neoconservative because they thought it was being used as a code word for JewsI disagree. jews hate when you call them jews, they don't mind being covertly being called anything else (neo-cons,liberals,freemasons,commies,etc), matter of fact, it's quite convenient for them. Nothing exposes a jew then just straight out being called a "jew". then their entire cover is blown. then let the wailing and moaning begin. Unless their converted Christians, then they will have no problem stating their "Jєωιѕнness".
I think he's a "little" bit of a nutcase. No pun intended.
Sorry, I don't know about this guy.
The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loosely-connected and somewhat ill-defined grouping ofFixed that for you. Your bogus PC terminology needs serious updating.white supremacists/white nationalists,neo-nαzιs,neo-fascists, neo-Confederates,h0Ɩ0cαųst deniers, and other far-right fringehate groups.
Fixed that for you. Your bogus PC terminology needs serious updating.It wasn't actually my terminology, it was Wikipedia's. My point was, how can conflating True Catholicism with Alt-right be a good thing?
...My point was, how can conflating True Catholicism with Alt-right be a good thing?
It wasn't actually my terminology, it was Wikipedia's.
It wasn't actually my terminology, it was Wikipedia's. My point was, how can conflating True Catholicism with Alt-right be a good thing?What is "true" Catholicism to you?
This was all delineated for you in the articles you're refusing to read. I pretty much spell it out. But you've decided to only react to a headline, as most non-thinking r-selected interenet browsers tend to do.rotflol No snopes for me. I cited Wikipedia only because it reflects what most people are exposed to. The point being, Traditional Catholics have a great deal to lose if we are in any way affiliated with the so-called alt-right. What a horrible notion.
http://forge-and-anvil.com/2018/01/07/overlap-between-traditional-catholics-the-political-right/ (http://forge-and-anvil.com/2018/01/07/overlap-between-traditional-catholics-the-political-right/)
A lot has happened since this thread was first penned, and since then I've decided to distance myself from the "Alt-Right brand" anyway. I figured a brand name isn't a hill worth dying on.
http://forge-and-anvil.com/2018/08/20/2018-where-do-i-stand-with-the-alt-right-brand/ (http://forge-and-anvil.com/2018/08/20/2018-where-do-i-stand-with-the-alt-right-brand/)
Wikipedia is hardly neutral. It is completely Leftist-dominated. I imagine you refer to Snopes as well.
What is "true" Catholicism to you?You are quite talented at extrapolating a great deal of conjecture out of thin air.
Where in any Church doctrine or dogma does it state that we have to lay down to a bunch of fanatical leftists and anarchists that want to destroy everything and anything we hold value to or sit back and be genocided out like good little sheep?
I never understood how to be a good little Catholic or Christian you had to keep your mouth shut and eyes closed against murder, oppression and tyranny. Is not the church full of martyrs who couldn't just keep their mouth shut or just go along with the program?
rotflol No snopes for me. I cited Wikipedia only because it reflects what most people are exposed to. The point being, Traditional Catholics have a great deal to lose if we are in any way affiliated with the so-called alt-right. What a horrible notion.
You are quite talented at extrapolating a great deal of conjecture out of thin air.
You are quite talented at extrapolating a great deal of conjecture out of thin air.Well, in your case, hot air.