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« on: July 29, 2013, 04:38:43 PM »
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  • Presently my better half has the iud, I've been staying away but it's getting desperate now, I gave her a link to the cervical mucus method which she read up on and says no way she would do it, are there any other methods that we;re missing which are better? also if anyone has any church teachings that absolve the man from any mortal sin when he has relations with a wife who uses contraception I'm all ears, for now I believe it would be a mortal sin for me to have relations  with the wife.

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    « Reply #1 on: July 29, 2013, 06:49:56 PM »
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  • St. Anthony of Padua preached to help convert the people.  He found that trying to prove wrong in people did not work.  He brought them to sorrow.

    I myself would like to know how that is accomplished.  The Cure de Ars, certainly brought his people to their knees.  He fasted because the devil hated that and the Cure cried when there was sin and such.  

    I read his book and I was just fascinated by the powers of God.  Travelers said they didn't even recognize the city of Ars.  They expected stores open on Sunday and people in the fields working only to find a very quiet city on Sunday.


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    « Reply #2 on: July 29, 2013, 06:57:53 PM »
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    Presently my better half has the iud, I've been staying away but it's getting desperate now, I gave her a link to the cervical mucus method which she read up on and says no way she would do it, are there any other methods that we;re missing which are better? also if anyone has any church teachings that absolve the man from any mortal sin when he has relations with a wife who uses contraception I'm all ears, for now I believe it would be a mortal sin for me to have relations  with the wife.


    Have you even talked to a priest about this yet?
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #3 on: July 29, 2013, 07:01:06 PM »
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    Presently my better half has the iud, I've been staying away but it's getting desperate now, I gave her a link to the cervical mucus method which she read up on and says no way she would do it, are there any other methods that we;re missing which are better? also if anyone has any church teachings that absolve the man from any mortal sin when he has relations with a wife who uses contraception I'm all ears, for now I believe it would be a mortal sin for me to have relations  with the wife.


    Have you even talked to a priest about this yet?

    my priest mentioned family planning, I gave my wife a link and she read up on it and freaked out.

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    « Reply #4 on: July 29, 2013, 07:33:26 PM »
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    Presently my better half has the iud, I've been staying away but it's getting desperate now, I gave her a link to the cervical mucus method which she read up on and says no way she would do it, are there any other methods that we;re missing which are better? also if anyone has any church teachings that absolve the man from any mortal sin when he has relations with a wife who uses contraception I'm all ears, for now I believe it would be a mortal sin for me to have relations  with the wife.


    Have you even talked to a priest about this yet?

    my priest mentioned family planning, I gave my wife a link and she read up on it and freaked out.


    Then you need to tell the priest her reaction, and ask him what to do next.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,


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    « Reply #5 on: July 29, 2013, 07:35:44 PM »
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  • What a difficult situation. I wouldn't know how to advise you.
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    « Reply #6 on: July 29, 2013, 09:20:54 PM »
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  • Remember the vow about freely welcoming children? God's will. Not your lifestyle or at your convenience.

    Start breaking the vows you end up breaking the marriage, talk to a priest, both of you.

    But it sounds like already your communication has broken down. Work fast.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 29, 2013, 09:37:56 PM »
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    Remember the vow about freely welcoming children? God's will. Not your lifestyle or at your convenience.

    Start breaking the vows you end up breaking the marriage, talk to a priest, both of you.

    But it sounds like already your communication has broken down. Work fast.

    I agree, if it means the breakdown of my marriage I don't see a way out...anone hve experience with the following, Popular types of natural family planning include the rhythm method,  and the basal body temperature method.


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    « Reply #8 on: July 29, 2013, 09:46:05 PM »
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  • What about using temps only? Unless she is working night or up with a nursing infant it's pretty easy especially with online charting. A digital basal thermometer is under $15.  :pray:

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    « Reply #9 on: July 29, 2013, 10:45:36 PM »
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    I agree, if it means the breakdown of my marriage I don't see a way out...anone hve experience with the following, Popular types of natural family planning include the rhythm method,  and the basal body temperature method.


    Well look at this on the better side of things as she just doesn't get it;understand the significance.
    Perhaps she sees this as just a "modern method." (but its not a natural one) See what the true root of the problem is. If she's being obstinate because she wants to be sure NOT to have a child then that's a big problem.

    In my experience all the natural methods aren't 100%. But that just meant it was time.
    Each one is a blessing and I wouldn't have it any other way.

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    « Reply #10 on: July 29, 2013, 10:48:38 PM »
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  • We need traditional Catholic doctors.  And nurses.

    It seems many in the medical profession are liberals or end up liberals.

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    « Reply #11 on: July 30, 2013, 08:02:57 PM »
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    We need traditional Catholic doctors.  And nurses.

    It seems many in the medical profession are liberals or end up liberals.



    We need to start by having traditional priests.

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    « Reply #12 on: July 30, 2013, 08:18:42 PM »
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  • We don't need natural family planning, which is nothing more than Catholic birth control.  We need supernatural family planning.  Pray, pray, pray the Rosary together.  Try to pray all 15 decades each day.  Our Lady will solve your serious dilemma.  She has promised that there is no problem too great which cannot be solved by the Holy Rosary.  Believe it!

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    « Reply #13 on: July 30, 2013, 08:40:07 PM »
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    Presently my better half has the iud, I've been staying away but it's getting desperate now, I gave her a link to the cervical mucus method which she read up on and says no way she would do it, are there any other methods that we;re missing which are better? also if anyone has any church teachings that absolve the man from any mortal sin when he has relations with a wife who uses contraception I'm all ears, for now I believe it would be a mortal sin for me to have relations  with the wife.


    IMHO the best avenue is to find someone who teaches the Creighton Method, and go together to the class. I think there is a wonderful chance you're wife will be amazed at what Creighton has to offer. I would be willing to talk to you both of you, if you feel comfortable. Creighton blew me away, and it made our marriage much stronger.

    Pax,
    Tarpeian

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    « Reply #14 on: July 30, 2013, 09:22:11 PM »
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    Presently my better half has the iud, I've been staying away but it's getting desperate now, I gave her a link to the cervical mucus method which she read up on and says no way she would do it, are there any other methods that we;re missing which are better? also if anyone has any church teachings that absolve the man from any mortal sin when he has relations with a wife who uses contraception I'm all ears, for now I believe it would be a mortal sin for me to have relations  with the wife.


    IMHO the best avenue is to find someone who teaches the Creighton Method, and go together to the class. I think there is a wonderful chance you're wife will be amazed at what Creighton has to offer. I would be willing to talk to you both of you, if you feel comfortable. Creighton blew me away, and it made our marriage much stronger.

    Pax,
    Tarpeian


    Are you guys talking about ways to engage in conjugal acts while removing the possibility of pregnancy?

     

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