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The Novus Ordo: The Day Christ Called Me Home
« on: May 01, 2025, 11:01:40 AM »
Here is a judgmental woman judging trad "judgmentalism."  Thoughts?


Offline Everlast22

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Re: The Novus Ordo: The Day Christ Called Me Home
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2025, 11:06:26 AM »
Here is a judgmental woman judging trad "judgmentalism."  Thoughts?


Some feminist boon telling us about how uncharitable we are. Per the usual. 


Re: The Novus Ordo: The Day Christ Called Me Home
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2025, 11:35:29 AM »
What's with the weird statues in the background?  

Offline Gray2023

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Re: The Novus Ordo: The Day Christ Called Me Home
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2025, 11:36:22 AM »
I know a man who went through the exact same thing as what this woman is describing so much so that he apologized to the "pope" in a Facebook post.

It was disheartening to say the least.

But does she have a point when she mentions the lack of charity among some traditionalists. Maybe?

Anecdotal evidence:
20 years ago my family chose Mass attendance at the Fraternity of St. Peter (indult traditionalists) over the SSPX due to the prideful feeling of the SSPX. 

Now if I had to go back knowing what I know now I would have picked the SSPX, but we were new to traditionalism.

The Mass that is not doubtful is better than a doubtful one.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Novus Ordo: The Day Christ Called Me Home
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2025, 12:11:24 PM »
No, she has no point at all.  I listened to about 4 minutes, and her definition of being "prideful" and "bitter" has to do with denouncing / condemning / rejecting the "Ordinary Form" (dead giveaway there using the term).  She just wasn't an actual Traditional Catholic.  She went there for "reverence" and then didn't like actual Traditional Catholic theology, which does indeed hold that the Novus Ordo Mass is not Catholic, dipleases God, and harms souls.  If she had started in with, "I noticed that people were kindof mean, etc. ..." that would be one thing that could be perhaps debated, and where she might have a point.  Even if after where I stopped watching she does talk about that, it's too late to consider that real or objective, since if your starting point is a theological disagreement and you're construing a mere adherence to Traditional Catholic principles to be "prideful", "bitter", "divisive" ... then everything else form that point on is colored by that false premise and cannot be taken seriously.

But she went "Trad" or, rather, trad (lowercase) due to reverence but did not really share the theology of most Traditional Catholics.

Her claim that denouncing the NOM is "bitter", "prideful", and "divisive" ... it's only true if there's nothing actually wrong with the NOM.  Otherwise, what are people supposed to do, say, "yeah, that's great.  If that's your thing, that's fine and there's nothing wrong with it.  I just happen to prefer this way of doing things."

See, for her, if you're not a relativist/subjectivist of the "I'm OK, you're OK" hold hands and sing kumbaya Ecuмenist and religious indifferentist, then that per se makes you proud, bitter, divisive, etc.  Same as Bergolgio's thinking.

Just a bunch of woke, snowflakey garbage.

If I went to a ѕуηαgσgυє or an Orthodox church or something, and went in there and found the Orthodox or Jews saying that the Catholic Church was a false religion, I wouldn't consider that divisive ... just wrong.  I'd in fact recognize that they're merely concluding that based on their principles, and not for some intrinsic need to be bitter of divisive.

This is stuch utter stupidity that I can't see how anyone here takes it seriously.