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Offline alaric

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Re: Baby Boomers....
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2018, 06:06:58 PM »
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  • Not all of us are "the same people" who you blame. This unfair generalization is the same type of "reasoning" which leads people to unfairly attack Judge Kavenaugh, as if he represents all the evil men who abuse women and get away with it.

    btw, my dh is a boomer and his pension was stolen. We are now trying to get by on 0% interest on a couple of IRAs, leaving us somewhat jealous of the "greatest generation" who were earning 18% interest on their savings while we were a young family making house payments with 18% interest.

    Someone on this thread mocked seniors who are always looking for a coupon for an affordable breakfast. That's what happens when the bankers have enslaved all of us into economic bondage.
    I'm sorry to hear that. Stealing from the working poor is a sin that cries out to heaven for vengeance.
    Hopfully, one day, God will answer that cry.

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    Re: Baby Boomers....
    « Reply #46 on: September 25, 2018, 06:21:53 PM »
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  • Alaric, thank you for your response.

    My mention of the will of God referred directly to our birthdates. God chooses who is born and when.

    I just find the whole artificial division of generations to be ... well, artificial.  It seems to me to be a fabrication of MSM. Maybe, I'm wrong. Does somebody know the history of this seemingly modern phenomenon?

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    Re: Baby Boomers....
    « Reply #47 on: September 25, 2018, 07:04:15 PM »
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  • Alaric, thank you for your response.

    My mention of the will of God referred directly to our birthdates. God chooses who is born and when.

    I just find the whole artificial division of generations to be ... well, artificial.  It seems to me to be a fabrication of MSM. Maybe, I'm wrong. Does somebody know the history of this seemingly modern phenomenon?

    It is a great grace to have forgiven your father. God bless.
    I think that there are general characteristics associated with people born in various periods. For example, people formed during the Great Depression share similarities.

    All people are sinners.  People of the same generation are likely to have similar sinful tendencies.  Devout Catholics of any time period would be fighting against their own sinful tendencies so I would expect them to demonstrate these generational faults less than others.

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    Re: Baby Boomers....
    « Reply #48 on: September 25, 2018, 08:22:27 PM »
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  • Quote from: Struthio
    You act worse than all those godless Social Justice Warriors, and present yourself as emotionally stirred up and irrational.
    Says the guy who dragged feminism and SJW's into this thread.
    Try and stay on point here.

    Let me answer with Nadir:

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    I just find the whole artificial division of generations to be ... well, artificial.

    Feminists and Social Justice Warriors are incited to destroy all institutions, all natural bonds. Same thing with division of generations. Divide and conquer as announced and executed by cultural communists Antonio Gramsci, Frankfurter Schule, Tavistock Institute of Human Relations, etc. pp.

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    Re: Baby Boomers....
    « Reply #49 on: September 25, 2018, 08:58:31 PM »
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  • Baby-booming, bible-thumping Israel-firsters have been pushing and fighting zionists wars now for quite some time.

    Look, the age of Babyboomers did not start more than 100 years ago, while Professor George Friedman explains that the plans for many wars did:



    At 1'40" he explains in a few words what "the primordial interest of the U.S." have been since WWI.
    (If you have the time: it's well worth it watching the whole show.)

    Matter of fact, we have a baby-boomer water-boy for the jews and Israel in the white house now, just begging to start WW3. And he beat the female version who couldn't wait to defend Israel and ignite Russia as well.
    So you go ahead and give me a history lesson.

    What does the fact that Jews run the U.S. (and the whole 'west' and more) have to do with Baby Boomers? The U.S. has been a revolutionary Freemason and Illuminati Republic since the beginning. What is the U.S. constitution and the U.S. other than the antithesis of the Holy Roman Empire? And who controls the secret societies?


    Speaking of history lessons, I'll answer your question, when you tell me why you took the the name of a big stupid bird?

    It's the latin translation of my real surname, which in my mother tongue has several meanings one of which is the name of that clumsy bird.


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    Re: Baby Boomers....
    « Reply #50 on: September 25, 2018, 09:06:37 PM »
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  • I think that there are general characteristics associated with people born in various periods. For example, people formed during the Great Depression share similarities.

    All people are sinners.  People of the same generation are likely to have similar sinful tendencies.  Devout Catholics of any time period would be fighting against their own sinful tendencies so I would expect them to demonstrate these generational faults less than others.
    Yes, general characteristics.
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    But I never heard of Great Depression Generation, just people who suffered hardship and deprivation, my own parents among them. (Both of their families left the country for the city. When my father started work it was not easy for a Catholic to find work, for example, and as his father was disabled it was my father, as a boy, who supported his family of seven souls.)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression_in_Australia#Varying_experiences_of_the_Great_Depression
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    But this was not a way of dividing people from each other, according to generation.
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    That's why I asked 
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    Does somebody know the history of this seemingly modern phenomenon?
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    Struthio has given a few pointers to it. As (traditional) Catholics we need to examine the roots of these sources of contention.
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    Re: Baby Boomers....
    « Reply #51 on: September 26, 2018, 04:43:56 AM »
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  • I just find the whole artificial division of generations to be ... well, artificial.  It seems to me to be a fabrication of MSM. Maybe, I'm wrong. Does somebody know the history of this seemingly modern phenomenon?

    There is a Wikipedia article (however reliable that is) about using "generation" as a category like this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation   It gives some of the history. 

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    Social generations are cohorts of people born in the same date range and who share similar cultural experiences.[10] The idea of a social generation, in the sense that it is used today, gained currency in the 19th century. Prior to that the concept "generation" had generally referred to family relationships and not broader social groupings. In 1863, French lexicographer Emile Littré had defined a generation as, "all men living more or less at the same time".[11]
    Several trends promoted a new idea of generations, as the 19th century wore on, of a society divided into different categories of people based on age. These trends were all related to the processes of modernisation, industrialisation, or westernisation, which had been changing the face of Europe since the mid-18th century. One was a change in mentality about time and social change. The increasing prevalence of enlightenment ideas encouraged the idea that society and life were changeable, and that civilization could progress.

    Just about every evil in our society has its roots in so-called "Enlightenment" ideas.  If this is the source of the popular concept of generations, I expect no good from it.   The article also says that a factor in the development of the concept was "the breakdown of traditional social and regional identifications".  That also sounds quite negative.


     As (traditional) Catholics we need to examine the roots of these sources of contention.

    I found this a helpful and insightful comment.  This concept of generation is indeed a "source of contention".  In reading the article, I saw that ever since the idea arose, it involved an aspect of conflict between generations.  This explains why Struthio saw the parallels between this and cultural Marxism.  Just as feminists and SJWs pit various groups of people against each other, modeled on the original Marxist "class warfare", generation theory pits people of different ages against each other.  It creates a division between people and then frames the relationship between the groups as one of conflict.

    It is clear to me, looking at the history of the idea, that is antithetical to Catholicism.  While I remain convinced that there are similarities among people who have experienced similar formative cultural events, I think we need to be extremely cautious in using this concept in social analysis.  We should be even more concerned if we find ourselves angry or hostile toward a specific "generation".

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    Re: Baby Boomers....
    « Reply #52 on: September 26, 2018, 03:26:44 PM »
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  • There is a Wikipedia article (however reliable that is) about using "generation" as a category like this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation   It gives some of the history.

    Just about every evil in our society has its roots in so-called "Enlightenment" ideas.  If this is the source of the popular concept of generations, I expect no good from it.   The article also says that a factor in the development of the concept was "the breakdown of traditional social and regional identifications".  That also sounds quite negative.

    I found this a helpful and insightful comment.  This concept of generation is indeed a "source of contention".  In reading the article, I saw that ever since the idea arose, it involved an aspect of conflict between generations.  This explains why Struthio saw the parallels between this and cultural Marxism.  Just as feminists and SJWs pit various groups of people against each other, modeled on the original Marxist "class warfare", generation theory pits people of different ages against each other.  It creates a division between people and then frames the relationship between the groups as one of conflict.

    It is clear to me, looking at the history of the idea, that is antithetical to Catholicism.  While I remain convinced that there are similarities among people who have experienced similar formative cultural events, I think we need to be extremely cautious in using this concept in social analysis.  We should be even more concerned if we find ourselves angry or hostile toward a specific "generation".
    Great points Jayne. I remember that the artificial notion of "teenagers" was launched in Life Magazine in 1944. I wonder if the invention of other arbitrary age groups was deliberate.


    The Invention of Teenagers: LIFE and the Triumph of Youth Culture
    Historians and social critics differ on the specifics of the timeline, but most cultural observers agree that the strange and fascinating creature known as the American teenager — as we now understand the species — came into being sometime in the early 1940s. This is not to say that for millennia human beings had somehow passed from childhood to adulthood without enduring the squalls of adolescence. But the modern notion of the teen years as a recognized, quantifiable life stage, complete with its own fashions, behavior, vernacular and arcane rituals, simply did not exist until the post-Depression era.
    Here, in the first of a series of galleries on the evolution of LIFE magazine's — and, by extension, America's — view of teenagers through the middle part of the 20th century, LIFE.com presents photos that the inimitable Nina Leen shot for a December 1944 article, "Teen-Age Girls: They Live in a Wonderful World of Their Own."

    http://time.com/3639041/the-invention-of-teenagers-life-and-the-triumph-of-youth-culture/
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