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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
« Reply #150 on: March 18, 2022, 03:31:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: RomanTheo on March 18, 2022, 02:46:20 PM
    Of course the other possibility is that he does it as requested, the world converts, and the sedevacantists are proven wrong once and for all. And that is what will happen if he performs the consecration, since without the slightest doubt the sedevacantist are all definitely wrong.  As are the Beneplenists.  Francis is the Pope, and God is about to prove it. 

    The only question in my mind is if nuclear war will happen before next Friday and prevent him from performing the act.

    Bergoglio is no more pope than I am.  I'm looking forward to the truth being revealed so that (amont other reasons) people like you could eat crow.

    But it doesn't look as if he's going to conform with Our Lady's request in its entirety.
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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #151 on: March 18, 2022, 03:33:29 PM »
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    • To assert that the blaspheming impious apostate Jorge is the pope is nothing short of blasphemy against Our Lord, as His Promises to safeguard the papacy and the Church from error would be rendered meaningless.
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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #152 on: March 18, 2022, 03:47:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: RomanTheo on March 18, 2022, 02:46:20 PM
    The only question in my mind is if nuclear war will happen before next Friday and prevent him from performing the act.
    Well, if it does, I just hope I make a good confession this weekend and have enough foresight to stay home from work with my family before they drop.
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    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #153 on: March 18, 2022, 04:02:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 18, 2022, 03:33:29 PM
    To assert that the blaspheming impious apostate Jorge is the pope is nothing short of blasphemy against Our Lord, as His Promises to safeguard the papacy and the Church from error would be rendered meaningless.
    Perhaps there will be the devastation of war following his mockery of God and Our Lady, and his conversion and repentance will be of him as that "bishop in white" walking among the dead in Rome before being gunned down in the supposed vision of the third secret?

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    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Was Russia properly consecrated to the Immaculate Heart?
    « Reply #154 on: March 18, 2022, 04:04:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 18, 2022, 02:08:43 PM
    You forgot the most glaring one, #1 (in union with all the bishops of the world).
    Why won't that one be satisfied?
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    Fatima's "period of peace" a sort of millenarianism?
    « Reply #155 on: March 18, 2022, 04:13:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clarity on March 17, 2022, 05:20:54 PM
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    In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph, the Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me. Russia will be converted, and a period of peace shall be given to mankind. – Our Lady speaking to the seers at Fatima, July 13, 1917
    This "period of peace" seems similar to the heresy of millenarianism/chiliasm, that there will be a thousand years of peace before the Second Coming or that Christ will reign bodily for a thousand years. It reeks of a judaized conception of the Messiah, that He's a worldly leader, not that His "kingdom is not of this world" (John 18:36).
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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #156 on: March 18, 2022, 04:24:55 PM »
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    This "period of peace" seems similar to the heresy of millenarianism/chiliasm
    No, not at all.

    1.  Our Lady is the one who promised this peace; it's not an "interpretation".
    2.  Many, many of the Church Fathers talked about a devastation to the Church, followed by a period of restoration, then a falling away, which leads to antichrist.
    3.  A plethora, of plethora of prophecies predict a restoration of the Church (i.e. a period of peace) which happens after a long period of heresies and persecutions.
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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #157 on: March 18, 2022, 04:31:15 PM »
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    • Diplomatic ruse confirmed: https://akacatholic.com/nuncio-confirms-the-ruse-a-diplomatic-consecration/


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    Already we see a problem for those who would suggest that the March 25 act could possibly fulfill the request of Our Lady of Fatima:

    Even apart from the fact that the proposed consecration will not name Russia alone, the context is entirely different. It has nothing whatsoever to do with addressing, and making reparation for, Russia’s guilt before God – guilt that extends well beyond current events – as an exercise of His justice.

    In fact, as the Nuncio’s letter makes plain, the March 25 event is focused on Ukraine first and foremost!

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    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #158 on: March 18, 2022, 04:40:04 PM »
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    • ANYONE WHO IS ARGUING THAT THIS CONSECRATION WILL FULFILL FATIMA'S REQUEST....IT WON'T.  THIS IS CLEAR.  MOVE ON.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #159 on: March 18, 2022, 05:53:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 18, 2022, 04:24:55 PM
    1.  Our Lady is the one who promised this peace; it's not an "interpretation".
    2.  Many, many of the Church Fathers talked about a devastation to the Church, followed by a period of restoration, then a falling away, which leads to antichrist.
    3.  A plethora, of plethora of prophecies predict a restoration of the Church (i.e. a period of peace) which happens after a long period of heresies and persecutions.
    Good points. Thanks.
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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #160 on: March 18, 2022, 09:03:15 PM »
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    • The NEO-SSPX is losing its mind over this. It is like they have died and gone to heaven. The groveling over an apostate and layman(Bergolio)consecrating Russia to the Immaculate Heart is just the ticket they need to get more Novus Ordos to come to their chapel. This will keep the coffers filled so that they can continue building monuments. Meanwhile, the actual Novus Ordo sect could care less about what Bergolio says. You can make this stuff up. The SSPX is on their hands and knees over his, while the NO is entirely indifferent.
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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #161 on: March 18, 2022, 09:09:39 PM »
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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #162 on: March 18, 2022, 09:59:55 PM »
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    • Astonishing how many here think they are more important and/ or more educated than Il Papa Pius XII... :laugh1:
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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #163 on: March 18, 2022, 10:05:17 PM »
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    • Bergoglio, in lockstep with and likely a member of Globohomo, just condemned Russia, while never making a peep about the murder of ethnic Russian civilians in Eastern Ukraine in 2014.

    One more reason to support Russia.
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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #164 on: March 18, 2022, 10:12:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 18, 2022, 04:40:04 PM
    ANYONE WHO IS ARGUING THAT THIS CONSECRATION WILL FULFILL FATIMA'S REQUEST....IT WON'T.  THIS IS CLEAR.  MOVE ON.

    Not as currently planned.

    1) throwing Ukraine into the mix is to blur Our Lady's message, that it would be the errors of Russia.
    2) context is totally political
    3) I await the text of his consecration, and there's a good chance that "Immaculate Heart of Mary" will appear nowhere (it'll be some circuмlocution because that term is offensive to separated brethren)
    4) There's only a rumor thus far that he's "considering" "inviting" bishops to join him.
    5) He's constantly deriding Our Blessed Mother, and the offenses and blasphemies against the Immaculate Heart of Mary, for which this is supposed to be a reparation, ... this will come down on his head first and foremost.  If I were God, I'd send a bolt of lightning to obliterate him the moment he tried to open his blasphemous mouth to do the consecration.

    https://novusordowatch.org/2019/12/bergoglio-blasphemes-the-immaculate/

    6) He's not the Pope but an imposter, and he'll be simulating this consecration just as he's been simulating the entire papacy.
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