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Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
« Reply #90 on: March 16, 2022, 07:07:26 PM »
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  • Comrade,

    Late would mean late relative to the consummation of the prophesy. In this case, the annihilation of nations, spiritually and physically.
    That is why we are seeing the stirrings or beginning of WWIII as we approach the century mark. The abomination of desolated nations and the triumph of Communism, NWO, or Satanism would be the analog the the French Revolution.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #91 on: March 16, 2022, 07:12:50 PM »
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  • There was a reason that Our Lady appeared on June 13, 1929.  I believe that it's a sign that some great chastisement will begin on June 13, 2029.  Our Lord Himself likened this consecration to the French scenario, so I beleive that we'll see an exact parallel.

    Some great chastisement will begin in June of 2029.  3.5 years later would put us into 2023, which is also 75 years after the papacy was usurped from Pope Gregory XVII and he was replaced by Roncalli.  Pope Leo XIII saw in his vision that the Lord would give Satan 75 years of power.

    "Errors of Russia" infecting the entire world is as much a reference to Vatican II as it is to Communism spreading.  It was Communist agents/plants among the Cardinals who ousted Pope Gregory at the 1958 conclave.

    Cardinal Ciappi read the Third Secret and said that it refers to an apostasy that would "begin at the top".

    Sister Lucy said that the Third Secret would become much clearer in 1960.

    All the dots point to the same thing, that Fatima and the Third Secret were mostly about the Vatican II apostasy.


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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #92 on: March 16, 2022, 07:15:45 PM »
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  • Comrade,

    Late would mean late relative to the consummation of the prophesy. In this case, the annihilation of nations, spiritually and physically.
    That is why we are seeing the stirrings or beginning of WWIII as we approach the century mark. The abomination of desolated nations and the triumph of Communism, NWO, or Satanism would be the analog the the French Revolution.

    Right.  If Our Lord compalined already in 1931 (just two years after Our Lady's request) that the Pope had not yet complied.  Had the Pope done it right away in 1929 or 1930, none of this would have happend.  No Vatican II, no nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, none of the stuff you list.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #93 on: March 16, 2022, 07:18:32 PM »
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  • I honestly have no idea what was wrong with these men, Pius XI and Pius XII.  Were I Pius XI, I would have performed the consecration the next day or, rather, as soon as I could arrange to order all the bishops of the world to do it also.  I would have declared any bishop who does not comply ipso facto deposed, and therefore every bishop of the wordl will have performed the consecration.

    Pius XII claims that he personally witnessed the Miracle of the Sun in the Vatican gardens FOUR TIMES.  If that wasn't a message to him, then I don't know what could get through his skull.  

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #94 on: March 16, 2022, 07:20:51 PM »
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  • All the dots point to the same thing, that Fatima and the Third Secret were mostly about the Vatican II apostasy.
    Which makes sense that John 23 would have set the Third Secret aside upon reading it, given what he and his cohorts had planned.

    Imagine: Had the consecration been done in full measure, rather than half-measure by Pius XII in 1952, Gregory XVII would have reigned in an era of peace for probably 30 years given that he died in '89.

    Speculation aside, blessed be God for the way things have turned out. As it will make Our Lady's triumph and the age of peace that much more glorious given how far the world has fallen.
     
    Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!

    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #95 on: March 16, 2022, 07:23:59 PM »
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  • Speculation aside, blessed be God for the way things have turned out. As it will make Our Lady's triumph and the age of peace that much more glorious given how far the world has fallen.

    Agreed.  God of course knew all along how it would turn out.  O Felix Culpa.

    Had Pius XII done the consecration in, say, 1950, the conversion of the world would have been much less miraculous.  1950 was like heaven on earth compared to the bottomless pit of moral sewage that the entire world has turned into.

    It's patently obvious to all of us that nothing but the most profound miracle could reverse this horror.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #96 on: March 16, 2022, 07:27:42 PM »
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  • I honestly have no idea what was wrong with these men, Pius XI and Pius XII.  Were I Pius XI, I would have performed the consecration the next day or, rather, as soon as I could arrange to order all the bishops of the world to do it also.  I would have declared any bishop who does not comply ipso facto deposed, and therefore every bishop of the wordl will have performed the consecration.

    Pius XII claims that he personally witnessed the Miracle of the Sun in the Vatican gardens FOUR TIMES.  If that wasn't a message to him, then I don't know what could get through his skull. 

    As to the efficient cause of the failure, that is very difficult to pin down; but the material cause would be the unworthiness of the world in general ,and the Church Militant in particular.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #97 on: March 16, 2022, 07:28:00 PM »
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  • Agreed.  God of course knew all along how it would turn out.  O Felix Culpa.

    Had Pius XII done the consecration in, say, 1950, the conversion of the world would have been much less miraculous.  1950 was like heaven on earth compared to the bottomless pit of moral sewage that the entire world has turned into.

    "Thou hast brought forth, O Lord, my soul from hell: thou hast saved me from them that go down into the pit."
    [Psalms 29:4]
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #98 on: March 16, 2022, 07:57:32 PM »
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  • Has Vigano chimed in on this yet?

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #99 on: March 16, 2022, 08:00:18 PM »
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  • I honestly have no idea what was wrong with these men, Pius XI and Pius XII.  Were I Pius XI, I would have performed the consecration the next day or, rather, as soon as I could arrange to order all the bishops of the world to do it also.  I would have declared any bishop who does not comply ipso facto deposed, and therefore every bishop of the wordl will have performed the consecration.

    Pius XII claims that he personally witnessed the Miracle of the Sun in the Vatican gardens FOUR TIMES.  If that wasn't a message to him, then I don't know what could get through his skull. 

    I have wondered the very same thing many, many times.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #100 on: March 16, 2022, 08:00:46 PM »
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  • Does the pope even know HOW to consecrate ukraine/russia?


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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #101 on: March 16, 2022, 08:13:37 PM »
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    Pius XII claims that he personally witnessed the Miracle of the Sun in the Vatican gardens FOUR TIMES.  If that wasn't a message to him, then I don't know what could get through his skull.  
    Wow, I’ve never heard this!


    Still I see no downside.  +Francis declared a global day of penance/fasting early in his papacy (Sept 7, 2013) and there was a surprising peace declared in Syria soon after.  I remember watching John Kerry and other war-hawks on the news announce the deal with Assad.  You could see the surprise on their faces.  It was real.  The global media was taken aback that peace was reached.  They wanted war between the US and Russia (who backed Assad), just like now. 

    Call me a simpleton but even if +Francis is only the temporal head of the Church (with his spiritual teaching powers impounded) I still say he has some special role, which no other man on earth has, to lead/affect the Church, and society. 

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #102 on: March 16, 2022, 08:26:43 PM »
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  • Does the pope even know HOW to consecrate ukraine/russia?
    Yeah, he will probably forget to bring a statue of Our Lady. But conveniently have the Pachamama ready to fill in.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #103 on: March 16, 2022, 08:39:46 PM »
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  • Comrade,

    Late would mean late relative to the consummation of the prophesy. In this case, the annihilation of nations, spiritually and physically.
    That is why we are seeing the stirrings or beginning of WWIII as we approach the century mark. The abomination of desolated nations and the triumph of Communism, NWO, or Satanism would be the analog the the French Revolution.
    Haven't we seen the annihilation of nations already since WW2? Even the moral culture of pre-WW2 USA appears to be non-existent. Legal child sacrifice is obvious proof. 

    What did Sr. Lucy think of Pius XII consecration? Did she call it imperfect? This is my point, we are dealing with the aftermath of Pius XII's late consecration. 

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #104 on: March 16, 2022, 08:43:35 PM »
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  • Haven't we seen the annihilation of nations already since WW2? Even the moral culture of pre-WW2 USA appears to be non-existent. Legal child sacrifice is obvious proof.

    What did Sr. Lucy think of Pius XII consecration? Did she call it imperfect? This is my point, we are dealing with the aftermath of Pius XII's late consecration.
    Those are some good questions. As the world certainly did suffer for Pius XI's failure to consecrate Russia. And even having nations annihilated is right in line with what not only the Soviet Union did to half of Europe, but also the low-key racial genocide of European stock due to abortion and immigration. I'm one who thinks that Pius XII did do it, but too late and imperfectly, and we are now suffering the outcome. Because the spiritual desolation is far more harrowing than the physical chastisements that the world has already suffered in the 20th century.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]