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Our Lady of Guadalupe, Mother of the Americas
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    Our Lady of Guadalupe Shrine, Mexico, is the most visited Shrine in the Catholic world. When I visited there in 1977, it was a normal day, but I was especially surprised to see thousands of pilgrims, some really poor looking, just walking /SINGING in pilgrimages, and no registration was required by the authorities!!  It seemed like an endless column of souls. Amazing+
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    The name Guadalupe, is roughly translated as the "savior from the devil." In truth both apparitions are Apocalyptic, for Our Lady is the Woman with the Twelve Stars ...
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    Re: Our Lady of Guadalupe, Mother of the Americas
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  • Grok assembled these miracles at my request:

    The miracles of Our Lady of Guadalupe center on the apparition to Juan Diego on Tepeyac Hill near Mexico City in December 1531 and the enduring image on his tilma (cloak) made of agave fiber, which is considered miraculous due to its longevity and inexplicable properties.
     The first miracle occurred when Juan Diego's uncle, Juan Bernardino, was miraculously healed after the Virgin assured Juan Diego that his uncle would recover, which was confirmed upon his return.
    The primary miracle is the appearance of the image itself: when Juan Diego, following the Virgin's instructions, gathered Castilian roses blooming in winter on the frost-covered hill and placed them in his tilma, the image of the Virgin appeared on the fabric upon its opening before Bishop Juan de Zumárraga.

    The story of the tilma and roses spread quickly. Though most indigenous people never saw the image in person, word of the miracle ignited a spiritual movement. Within seven years (1531–1538), approximately 8 million indigenous people converted to Catholicism. By 1541—within a decade—estimates reach 9 to 10 million conversions, the largest and fastest in history.

    This transformation was unprecedented, especially given the resistance to Spanish missionaries before 1531. The image served as a powerful tool for evangelization, affirming the dignity of native people and presenting Mary as their mother.

    The tilma itself is considered a miracle due to its preservation for nearly 500 years despite being made of a fragile cactus fiber that typically disintegrates within 15–20 years.
    It has not deteriorated, despite exposure to environmental elements, candle smoke, and countless pilgrims' kisses.
    Scientific investigations have revealed that the image shows no brush marks, and the pigments used are of unknown origin, not matching any known plant, mineral, or animal sources, leading some researchers to conclude the paint is not of human origin.
    The colors have not faded or cracked, even without varnish.

    The image contains remarkable optical phenomena. The Virgin’s eyes contain reflections of people present in the bishop’s office at the time of the tilma’s unveiling, including figures like Juan Diego and the bishop, which were discovered through photographic enlargement.
    These reflections are consistent with the laws of physiological optics, including the Purkinje-Samson effect, suggesting the eyes behave like living human eyes.
    In 1979, Dr. José Aste Tonsmann used computer analysis to discover that the pupils contain digital-like images of people, including a detailed image of Juan Diego showing the tilma with the Virgin’s image, visible at a magnification of 2,500 times.

    Astronomical accuracy is another claimed miracle: the stars on the Virgin’s mantle correspond precisely to the night sky over Mexico City on December 12, 1531, the day of the apparition, as confirmed by astronomers.
    The image also maintains a consistent human body temperature of approximately 98.6°F (36.6–37°C), regardless of external conditions.
    In 1785, a spill of 50% nitric acid on the tilma created a 10 cm hole, but the fabric and image remained intact, with only a faint stain visible today.
    In 1921, a dynamite explosion near the image failed to damage it, though surrounding structures were destroyed.

    A more recent reported miracle occurred on April 24, 2007, during a Mass for the defense of unborn life, when an intense, pure white light in the shape of a fetus emerged from the Virgin’s abdomen, visible in photographs and confirmed by engineers to be an internal emission, not a reflection or artifact.
    This event led to her being recognized as the patroness of the unborn.
    Additionally, a gynecologist reportedly heard a fetal heartbeat of 115–120 beats per minute when placing a stethoscope on the Virgin’s belt, consistent with a fetus in the womb.
    These phenomena, combined with the image’s symbolic elements—such as the four-petaled flower over her womb representing life and divinity—have contributed to her veneration as a powerful intercessor.


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    Re: Our Lady of Guadalupe, Mother of the Americas
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  •   Thank you for the Grok summary; and all this Apparition occurred in the Octave of the Immaculate Conception (old calendar)! The  supernatural humbles the minds of even the greatest of scientists ( or it should!!) . Paint from unknown source! no brush strokes! No decay! etc...

      I stayed a few months at the El Paso rectory, and that chapel has a large painting over the altar of Our Lady of Guadalupe. As you move away from the painting, it seems to stay the same size, intriguing.

    Great reference here from Reply #2, OP 2023...plus a good link there to hear the "Music of the Tilma"..

    https://youtu.be/oWt5ms5JTYo?si=fW2THAxxoTHFrlQK

    Learn the origin of Our Lady of Victory - it is partly from Guadalupe Mexico . Miracles of 🌹🌹, stupendousness, victories!
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    Re: Our Lady of Guadalupe, Mother of the Americas
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    Happy Feast!

    Our Lady of Guadalupe Shrine, Mexico, is the most visited Shrine in the Catholic world. When I visited there in 1977, it was a normal day, but I was especially surprised to see thousands of pilgrims, some really poor looking, just walking /SINGING in pilgrimages, and no registration was required by the authorities!!  It seemed like an endless column of souls. Amazing+
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    https://www.catholictradition.org/Mary/guadalupe.htm
    The name Guadalupe, is roughly translated as the "savior from the devil." In truth both apparitions are Apocalyptic, for Our Lady is the Woman with the Twelve Stars ...
    That’s amazing you visited Guadeloupe. Have you been back since 1977? It’s so far from me here in England but would be great to go: what’s it like now as you visited a very long time ago! I have been to Lourdes in France, a few shrines in Ireland and Walsingham UK.