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It's still illogical.

Skirts must reach below the knees. They needn't reach the ankles.

So why are tights forbidden, and bare legs not? If the legs are covered to below the knee by a skirt, why does it matter?

Padre Pio would not even hear your confession if your skirt was not at least 8 inches below the knee.

Fact.

May I be so bold as to say, he was wrong about that?? Yes, I am claiming to know better. Shocking, I know.

And if your skirt reaches 8 inches below the knee, why does it matter if you're wearing tights or not??

I just cannot fathom the reasoning.

You can say he was wrong all you want.

The fact is, he could not SEE who was coming into the confessional, so how do you explain the fact that he KNEW if you were dressed immodestly...?

He didn't see anyone, and he told you to GET OUT of the confessional if you had a skirt too short! How did he know this? Because he had the gift of knowing it! So, would God hold him accountable for the fact that he was "wrong" if he didn't hear someone's confession if they weren't doing anything wrong?

How do you explain he's a saint now, if he chastised people for doing something that wasn't even wrong at all?

I don't know the extent of his visions and conversations with Our Lord. You'd think if he were erroneous for sending women that were immodestly dressed away from the confessional, Our Lord would have admonished him for sending women of good will away from the confessional if what they were wearing was not, in fact, immodest.

Just sayin'.

Quote from: clare

Quote from: parentsfortruth

Quote from: clare

It's still illogical.

Skirts must reach below the knees. They needn't reach the ankles.

So why are tights forbidden, and bare legs not? If the legs are covered to below the knee by a skirt, why does it matter?

Padre Pio would not even hear your confession if your skirt was not at least 8 inches below the knee.

Fact.

May I be so bold as to say, he was wrong about that?? Yes, I am claiming to know better. Shocking, I know.

And if your skirt reaches 8 inches below the knee, why does it matter if you're wearing tights or not??

I just cannot fathom the reasoning.

You can say he was wrong all you want.

The fact is, he could not SEE who was coming into the confessional, so how do you explain the fact that he KNEW if you were dressed immodestly...?

He didn't see anyone, and he told you to GET OUT of the confessional if you had a skirt too short! How did he know this? Because he had the gift of knowing it! So, would God hold him accountable for the fact that he was "wrong" if he didn't hear someone's confession if they weren't doing anything wrong?

How do you explain he's a saint now, if he chastised people for doing something that wasn't even wrong at all?

I don't know the extent of his visions and conversations with Our Lord. You'd think if he were erroneous for sending women that were immodestly dressed away from the confessional, Our Lord would have admonished him for sending women of good will away from the confessional if what they were wearing was not, in fact, immodest.

Just sayin'.

Such a good explanation!

Gee... you sounded like a real Modernistic woman...

And Pope Pius XII's business was to ensure that the Faith lives in every Catholic heart.

There is a link in this thread where it talks about him and what he said about modesty, Joan.

How do you explain he's a saint now, if he chastised people for doing something that wasn't even wrong at all?

Saints do that kind of thing.

Ladies!  Ladies!

Just wear what you want.  If you want to dress like a sleaze, by all means do so.  After all, it's in the heart that counts, right?   You're a good person with a good heart, isn't that so?  So what if you are an occasion of sin to men and are the cause of their sinning mortally because your slit is up to your wazoo, your shirt is too tight, and you never bothered to check just what can be seen through it.  

And put those pants on.  Don't let any one tell you how you can and/or can't dress.  Be comfortable by all means.   After all, times have changed and we're no longer in that stodgy Victorian Age.  

What does the Church know anyway?  That Pope Pius XII, he should just stick to faith business and keep his nose out of ladies' fashions.

So, bare those boobs, show that thigh, don those sweats and jeans -- live it up.  Life is short!

 :cheers: :sign-party-time:  :wine-drinking:

All I said was that turning away a woman in a skirt which is five inches below the knee, is wrong!

So, why extrapolate from that that, to see nothing wrong with a skirt that is "that short" (ie five inches below the knee) necessarily means that one thinks that a woman can wear whatever she likes, without giving a thought to being an occasion of sin to the menfolk?

And it was not Pope Pius XII who specified eight inches below the knee. It was St Padre Pio. I am not aware of any Pope who made such a stipulation.

Ladies!  Ladies!

Just wear what you want.  If you want to dress like a sleaze, by all means do so.  After all, it's in the heart that counts, right?   You're a good person with a good heart, isn't that so?  So what if you are an occasion of sin to men and are the cause of their sinning mortally because your slit is up to your wazoo, your shirt is too tight, and you never bothered to check just what can be seen through it.  

And put those pants on.  Don't let any one tell you how you can and/or can't dress.  Be comfortable by all means.   After all, times have changed and we're no longer in that stodgy Victorian Age.  

What does the Church know anyway?  That Pope Pius XII, he should just stick to faith business and keep his nose out of ladies' fashions.

So, bare those boobs, show that thigh, don those sweats and jeans -- live it up.  Life is short!

 :cheers: :sign-party-time:  :wine-drinking:

Alexandria, sometimes you remind me of me so much, it's getting down right scary.  Well written tongue in cheek post, but next time you might think about adding a disclaimer for some of our non-U.S. forum members.  As you read, Joan didn't understand  your sarcastic wit.  Now as far as myself, I thought you wrote an excellent post, just dripping with sarcasm in all the right places.  You aren't by chance a closet N.O.? :roll-laugh1: