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Offline Dulcamara

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« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2010, 08:58:42 PM »
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    I'v been trying to get the Mount to have a mother/daughter tea fashion show, where the girls model very modest and classy outfits.  So far they all love the idea but then it seems to die right there on the spot.  

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    Does anyone think it is a bad idea, I was thinking, well maybe they like the idea but fear the girls might get a taste of being a model and off to Hollywood they go.  


    Make it a costume party instead. Go victorian or something. It could be fun and maybe even educational.
    I renounce any and all of my former views against what the Church through Pope Leo XIII said, "This, then, is the teaching of the Catholic Church ...no one of the several forms of government is in itself condemned, inasmuch as none of them contains anythi

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    « Reply #31 on: August 08, 2010, 10:23:38 PM »
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  • Men are weak...and far more visually-oriented, especially when young, than ladies think...have pity :)
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    « Reply #32 on: August 08, 2010, 10:39:07 PM »
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  • Actually I think a young lady wearing a skirt just above the ankle is very classy, and professional looking for Church and work.  Not a tight skirt either, I hate that look.  

    I am going to bring that up at another meeting, about the modest fashion show.  Men not invited!  

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    « Reply #33 on: August 08, 2010, 10:44:26 PM »
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    Men not invited!  


    Femi-Nazi!!!  :laugh2:
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    « Reply #34 on: August 08, 2010, 10:48:53 PM »
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  •  :roll-laugh1: :roll-laugh2:


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    « Reply #35 on: August 09, 2010, 02:50:41 AM »
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    It's still illogical.

    Skirts must reach below the knees. They needn't reach the ankles.


    But why shouldn't they reach the ankles?


    I didn't say they must not reach the ankles! Most of my skirts do.


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    « Reply #36 on: August 09, 2010, 02:53:30 AM »
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  • Quote from: Caminus
    "We recall that a dress cannot be called decent which is cut deeper than two fingers breadth under the pit of the throat, which does not cover the arms at least to the elbows, and scarcely reaches a bit beyond the knee."

    How many ladies are there in SSPX chapels who have failed to grasp the urgency of this message?  How many graces are being lost because of negligent disregard?  


    I've mentioned this before: Marie Antoinette (and presumably other ladies of her day) did not grasp the message about low necklines.


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    « Reply #37 on: August 09, 2010, 12:02:23 PM »
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    It's still illogical.

    Skirts must reach below the knees. They needn't reach the ankles.


    But why shouldn't they reach the ankles?


    I didn't say they must not reach the ankles! Most of my skirts do.



    Well, my question is, why is their such resistance to covering the calfs, shins, and feet? (many do not have skirts that long) It might be practical not to have a skirt dragging, other than that, what is the reason for exposing the calfs and feet?

    What is the reason for decolletage?  Obviously it can only be excused by conformity with prevailing fashions, but are there really good reasons for it?  There only seem to be excuses for it, not good reasons recommending it.


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    « Reply #38 on: August 10, 2010, 08:12:48 AM »
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  • Re: Marie Antoinette.  I think that just like in our times, there are people who are more motivated by following fashion than being modest and thus you can find innumerable images/paintings of these.  I've read that Marie Antoinette was a flightly, vain young girl, but as she grew older she became more serious and devout.  Maybe there are paintings of her older that reflect that change, likely shown by a more modest neckline.

    As far as the resistance to longer skirts, I can only speak for myself and say that it's a matter of degree and wearing something so long is more extreme and therefore more noticeable out in public.  Many of us don't like feeling exposed to public scrutiny and don't want to be thought of as "weird."

    Plus, sometimes finding flattering skirts of that length and shoes to go with them is not easy.   And then some of us, like myself have H who aren't exactly on the same page about what is appropriate and modest for a Catholic woman in the 21st century ... and you get this resistance.

    As far as the matter of degree goes, it seems reasonable to have skirts below the knee, long enough so that your knee is covered when sitting ... and the skirt should be loose and flowing so as not to outline the figure.


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    « Reply #39 on: August 10, 2010, 09:33:05 AM »
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  • Well no matter what I wear I still look like the actor who played in Sling Blade.

    I have photographic proof of this.

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    « Reply #40 on: August 10, 2010, 12:18:57 PM »
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  • MrsZ hits the nail on the head.  Why select a bad example in order to justify another bad example?  

    The comparison should be with women who maintained this standard such as St. Elizabeth Ann Seton:



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    « Reply #41 on: August 10, 2010, 12:41:01 PM »
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    MrsZ hits the nail on the head.  Why select a bad example in order to justify another bad example?


    I wasn't justifying anything. I wouldn't dream of justifying low necklines!

    I was just demonstrating that, some Catholic ladies, from a few centuries before Pius XI drew up his guidelines on modesty, did not necessarily abide by them, their not having been drawn up yet!

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    « Reply #42 on: August 13, 2010, 06:20:36 PM »
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  • Quote from: Caminus
    "We recall that a dress cannot be called decent which is cut deeper than two fingers breadth under the pit of the throat, which does not cover the arms at least to the elbows, and scarcely reaches a bit beyond the knee."

    How many ladies are there in SSPX chapels who have failed to grasp the urgency of this message?  How many graces are being lost because of negligent disregard?  


    This is true. It really saddens me to see this from our medical volunteers from ACIM. Take a look at the pictures of the ladies in the left side.

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    « Reply #43 on: August 14, 2010, 02:45:33 AM »
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  • Oops, the "left side" should be right side.

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    « Reply #44 on: August 14, 2010, 06:38:55 PM »
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    Well no matter what I wear I still look like the actor who played in Sling Blade.

    I have photographic proof of this.


    Elizabeth, I find it hard to believe that you look like Billy Bob Thorton. :confused1:


     

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