Shapiro was interviewed by some catholic bishop...bishop Barron on youtube...they had a lengthy talk.  At one point, the bishop asked Shapiro about his belief in God and Shapiro basically stated he believed in some entity that created things (i.e. like the author of the big-bang), but that God didn't get involved in the affairs of men, he didn't care and that the OT was filled with myths.  Also, that the messiah wouldn't be God, but a political leader.  It was astounding.  So, essentially, he's an atheist.  Or, the modern-day version of a masonic deist.

Normally I might  read such a post, roll my eyes, and move on, but since lately you've been such a PITA, I will address the above stupidities (plural!).

deism | ˈdēˌizəm, ˈdāˌizəm | nounbelief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator who does not intervene in the universe.


atheism | ˈāTHēˌizəm | noun disbelief in the existence of God or gods

Not the same. Not even "essentially" the same.


I am forced to recall your pattern of incomprehension.

Jєωpedia claims him as an Orthodox Jєω. He has worn his Judaism on his shirtsleeve and yarmulke, so, in the absence of your alleged Barron Jєωtube vid, I'm going with: "Ben Shapiro is a damned Orthodox Jєω."

  Deism is just practical atheism. 

 Just as rationalization is practical stupidity… and still no Barron video.

If this is the interview Pax speaks of, it looks like Shapiro identifies as an Orthodox Jєω because he speaks of trying to follow all 603 commandments in the OT (in addition to the 10):

What’s the Catholic view on who gets into Heaven and who doesn’t? I feel like I lead a pretty good life, a very religiously-based life, in which I try to keep not just the Ten Commandments but a solid 603 other commandments as well. And I spend an awful lot of my time promulgating what I would consider to be ʝʊdɛօ-Christian virtues, particularly Western society’s. So, what’s the Catholic view of me? Am I basically screwed here?

NOW reported on this because it was the notorious interview where "Bishop" Barron told Shapiro he had no need to convert.

“Bp.” Robert Barron tells Jєωιѕн Man: No need to become Catholic, Jesus is only the “Privileged” Way – Novus Ordo Watch

And yet PV somehow twisted that into "So, essentially, he's an atheist.  Or, the modern-day version of a masonic deist"???

Go figure.

Rubin only has an audience because he's part of that same crowd as Peterson. He's equally as insufferable. Unfortunately, in 2016, if you were a libertarian/conservative with a camera, you went viral doing absolutely nothing.

Mark, I cant believe you’re apologizing for Ben Shapiro.  You have an entire website devoted to the dangers of Zionism.  Shapiro is as Zionist as they get.   

????  How did you get apologizing for Ben Shapiro out of Mark's posts?  Mark has been (somewhat forcefully) suggesting that you use words with their correct meanings.  The words "atheist" "deist" and "Orthodox Jew" all have their own distinct meanings.  They may have some things in common, such as being false beliefs, but they should not be used interchangeably.  The one that is the best match for Ben Shapiro is "Orthodox Jew".  A person who completely despises Ben Shapiro might very well call him an Orthodox Jew.  It is an accurate description, not an expression of approval.  Not in general and especially not in Mark's case.  

…(somewhat forcefully)…

So politely understated. 

BS is a deist.  He believes God created the world and then stays out of the way.  That’s practical atheism. 

There are plenty of deists who are catholic, Orthodox Jєω, Protestant, etc.  Their philosophy of life towards God is very disordered, no matter what their official “religion” is.

Your "thinking" (such as it is) is as disordered as their philosophy.

Keep digging yourself deeper. In just  handful of posts, you have lumped deists, Orthodox Jews, Prots, and "catholics" under your rubric of "atheist." It seems as if you'd define God Himself as an atheist as long as you can save face and not admit your first stupidity of claiming that a rabid Orthodox Jew is an atheist.

You are plum nuts.