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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
« Reply #105 on: April 01, 2022, 11:56:48 AM »
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    • So, Meg, you cannot quote verbatim even a single instance of me or anyone here promoting unlimited "support" for use of marijuana.
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    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #106 on: April 01, 2022, 11:58:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on April 01, 2022, 11:13:31 AM

    There you go again—lying.

    I/we promote the appropriate and judicious medical use of MJ for people suffering serious, even life-threatening, diseases.

    I/we tolerate the appropriate and judicious social use of MJ according to established moral theology principles.

    I/we have been quite clear from my/our earliest posts that there are some people for whom MJ use is inappropriate (e.g., schizophrenics, people with susceptibility to substance abuse).

    I have never, nobody here has ever,     made "being stoned seem completely normal."

    Quite the contrary to your layers of lies, I/we have consistently and repeatedly stated that to lose one's inhibition or reason is objectively sinful (except as moral theology allows for treatment of severe pain, etc.).

    Instead of addressing these carefully circuмscribed positions, you have raged with bizarre caricatures as now, claiming I/we promote global use of MJ as the norm.

    That is just a lie.
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    Offline epiphany

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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #107 on: April 01, 2022, 05:28:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on April 01, 2022, 10:27:47 AM
    Yes, probably quite young. But I expect pot supporters to be immature, whatever their age. Goes with the territory.
    Embracing presumption of the interior forum of others: objectively sinful

    Embracing prurience: objectively sinful

    Calumny (lying about what others have actually said): objectively sinful

    But thank you for the compliment that you both think I am quite young.  
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #108 on: April 01, 2022, 05:31:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on April 01, 2022, 10:37:21 AM
    I repeat: it isn't sinful to speak out against pot. Being a stoner is sinful.
    I don't think anyone, on any thread, has supported "being a stoner".  
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #109 on: April 01, 2022, 05:32:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on April 01, 2022, 10:52:01 AM
    Your disagreement is as obsessive as it is fact-free. 
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #110 on: April 01, 2022, 05:36:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on April 01, 2022, 11:15:42 AM
    It is obvious that you do not limit your support to just the so-called medical use of pot. You are not being honest.
    You have very poor reading comprehension.  That or you reply to posts without even reading them.  Either way you should stop and go help VCR  bake a cake.
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #111 on: April 01, 2022, 05:39:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on April 01, 2022, 11:51:33 AM
    Reported to moderator.
    :laugh1:  "Daddy, he's being mean (truthful)!"
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #112 on: April 01, 2022, 08:43:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on April 01, 2022, 05:31:33 PM
    I don't think anyone, on any thread, has supported "being a stoner". 

    Precisely.  That's why I have repeatedly denounced their "arguments" (more emotions than reason) as STRAW MEN.  They're not attacking what we're saying but attacking their warped mischaracterization of what we're saying.

    At no point was the question that I posed answered.  What is the morally-relevant difference between consuming just enough marijuana to induce a similar state as one might from a couple glasses of wine?  It's entirely irrelevant that it takes a lot less marijuana to completely lose the use of reason.  That's simply a practical difference between the two.  If someone invented a strain where a significant amount made someone lose their reason no more than one might with a couple glasses of wine, or if someone were taking micro-doses that barely effected their use of reason, please explain, in rational terms, what the actual difference is.  This has never been done.

    If you could lay out a rational principle that makes those two scenarios above morally different, then I'm all ears and open to being persuaded.
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #113 on: April 01, 2022, 11:28:58 PM »
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    • When there is war and people are dying, people here in this country have lost their homes, jobs and businesses etc.  and all our elected officials can only do is  plan on making marijuana and sodomy, full term abortion the law of the land, it’s not a good thing. 









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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #114 on: April 01, 2022, 11:38:48 PM »
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    • Many parents who smoked cigarettes had children who ended up smoking because they watched their parents.  Children who watch their parents smoke marijuana and drink booze could end up as addicts.  Same thing with food.  If parents are eating junk food and child will end up being unhealthy.

    I don’t think Jesus was drinking wine everyday or smoking marijuana. He did change water into wine at a wedding.  He went to the desert to pray and fast. We also know He did stop at a well for water. 



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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #115 on: April 02, 2022, 12:05:23 AM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on April 01, 2022, 11:28:58 PM
    When there is war and people are dying, people here in this country have lost their homes, jobs and businesses etc.  and all our elected officials can only do is  plan on making marijuana and sodomy, full term abortion the law of the land, it’s not a good thing.

    I think that when times get tough, I mean really tough, as they surely will, the priorities of pot advocates may change. I hope so. 
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #116 on: April 02, 2022, 12:20:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on April 02, 2022, 12:05:23 AM
    I think that when times get tough, I mean really tough, as they surely will, the priorities of pot advocates may change. I hope so.
    From the person who complains about down thumbs and posts.
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #117 on: April 02, 2022, 01:59:10 AM »
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    • I think that when times get tough, i mean really tough, as they shirly will, the priorities of the pot detractors may change. I hope so== :laugh2:
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #118 on: April 02, 2022, 02:01:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: roscoe on April 02, 2022, 01:59:10 AM
    I think that when times get tough, i mean really tough, as they shirly will, the priorities of the pot detractors may change. I hope so== :laugh2:

    :laugh1::laugh2::jester:
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #119 on: April 02, 2022, 04:31:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on April 01, 2022, 11:38:48 PM
    Many parents who smoked cigarettes had children who ended up smoking because they watched their parents.  Children who watch their parents smoke marijuana and drink booze could end up as addicts.  Same thing with food.  If parents are eating junk food and child will end up being unhealthy.

    I don’t think Jesus was drinking wine everyday or smoking marijuana. He did change water into wine at a wedding.  He went to the desert to pray and fast. We also know He did stop at a well for water.
    So parents who smoke cigarettes will have children who smoke, but parents who drink could have addicts?  

    And parents eat junk food (ever?) will end up with unhealthy children?

    Seems like pretty flawed logic to me.
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