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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
« Reply #45 on: August 28, 2024, 02:33:43 PM »
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    Yes and I am concerned that people who open these doors don't realize that they can close them with prayer and sacrifice and the Sacraments.
    Yes, but how do these doors get open?  They don't just open on their own.

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    Blaming it on an accidental curse from a book doesn't deal with the true situation. 
    :facepalm:  The book was the cause of the curse.  The book opened the door.  Accidentally used by the person, the book is the cause.

    God does NOT allow (except in rare circuмstances) people to be attacked by demons, who stay away from these doors. 

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    That this girl is susceptible to demonic attacks and that she needs to learn how to fortify herself.
    And she BECAME susceptible due to this book.  She was not susceptible "just because".  That's not how it works.
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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #46 on: August 28, 2024, 02:36:22 PM »
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    Who wants to follow a blind guide anyhow? This priest says the Novus Ordo Mass 100% of the time. He doesn't even know there's a Crisis in the Church! Not exactly a paragon of wisdom and knowledge to follow. A 10 year old Trad is wiser than him.
    It doesn't take a priest to know that fooling around with magic, the occult and curses, etc can lead to demonic activity.  Even protestants know this.  There's plenty of stories of unbaptized atheists who converted to the Faith, because they realized that the occult/devil was real.  True priest or not, his advice is solid and stands above the question of V2.
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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #47 on: August 28, 2024, 02:54:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on August 28, 2024, 02:05:38 PM
    To confirm, are you saying that Fr. Nix says the New Mass 100% of the time?

    Going from the ’55 Missal to the ’45 Missal – Padre Peregrino
    As you know, for the first seven years of my priesthood, I offered the new sacraments.  The last seven years I have offered exclusively the old sacraments.  But now I’m switching from a 1962 TLM Missal to a 1939 TLM Missal.  This has little to do with the papacy or obedience or rebellion or political statements or trying “to be more trad than the next priest.”

    Why I Offer the Old Sacraments Exclusively – Padre Peregrino

    Well that's a good first step for a Novus Ordo priest -- but he needs to get off the fence. He's doing the classic "I'm trad but don't call me Trad" thing, as if he's accidentally discovering everything for the first time, like a pioneer, and if there are whole groups ALREADY DOING exactly what he's doing, he still wants nothing to do with those groups...

    He'd rather pretend he's "special".

    That's annoying to say the least. That's almost worse than being a standard Novus Ordo priest. At least they are ignorant. This priest is trying to be "special".

    I can't stand when priests try to be "above it all". He's NOT "above it all" although he likes to pretend he is.

    Either Trad or get off the pot.
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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #48 on: August 28, 2024, 03:07:57 PM »
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    • He's using the 1939 missal, why?  You can't just pick and choose what missal to use.  The 1955/1962 are the most recent editions.  These are the only 2 options (and the 1955 is mainly used just for the Easter services and some other feasts).  How does one decide to go back in time and use 1939???  What a weird world we live in.  :facepalm:
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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #49 on: August 28, 2024, 03:14:26 PM »
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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #50 on: August 28, 2024, 07:36:39 PM »
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    • There was an article this month in Catholic Family News detailing an account of an exorcism from the 1500s. I forget the girls name, but she was possessed by multiple demons. One of them said their name was Cerberus. So should we not read Greek myths either? 
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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #51 on: August 28, 2024, 08:06:25 PM »
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    • a point or two: 

    Does anyone know for sure if these books contain curses that were spoken aloud, or even curses or any occult subject at all?

    Does the priest in the article ask -where- the 'Sarah' got the idea to read the book?  Was it recommended by a friend?  I always tried to monitor what my daughter was reading, but friends (from the parish) would be allowed things that she was not and would introduce them.  Perhaps the issue is a friend, not the book itself?
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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #52 on: September 01, 2024, 03:49:37 PM »
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    • It is relatively easy to find out about any book by looking online for reviews or a synopsis prior to reading it.  If it is considered fantasy, sci. fi. a novel, or of a sort that may be unsuitable reading for a Catholic, learn that in advance.  If in doubt, don't read it.  Books involving the occult, glorifying witchcraft or paganism, automatically reject.  Once read, it cannot be unread.  There are so many good books out there, why take a chance with evil?  For that matter, many books aren’t evil, but are just drivel, not worth the paper they’re written on.  They’re the junk food of the literary world.  A steady diet leaves one weak and sickly.  Look into good, time-proven literature if you enjoy fantasy or fiction.  Be discerning just as you would before adopting a diet.  
    The saints have long warned against bad books and bad companions. If they were on earth today, they’d be warning against bad internet, bad social media, bad TV, bad movies, bad video games, and in the 1930’s-1950’s, against bad radio shows.  All of these hold today including bad books.  Just because something is lo-tech or old-fashioned, doesn’t mean it’s good. Don’t believe me?  Prior to the League of Decency, there were some very racy movies, even before the talkies!  
    We have the internet today, so there’s no reason for Catholics to innocently stumble upon a bad book to the point that a demon enters a teen girl’s bedroom!  A 16 year old should be learning this good use of internet to make wise decisions about library books.  
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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #53 on: September 02, 2024, 11:17:17 PM »
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    • I would like to share that at some point my curiosity driven me to watch a reality psychic show for a couple days, and I got very disturbed by sleep paralysis and many levels of nightmare, even though I had no emotion for the show and many people claimed they are faking the psychic powers. And I prayed rosary everyday too, still disturbed until I quitted watching that completely and confessed. So even though I don't know if I would go avoid ALL fantasy as some of us may write that too, moral of the story don't try it, anything related to supernatural powers, even if youre very strong spiritually, don't play with it even slightest bit.
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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #54 on: September 03, 2024, 09:16:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on August 28, 2024, 02:54:18 PM
    Well that's a good first step for a Novus Ordo priest -- but he needs to get off the fence. He's doing the classic "I'm trad but don't call me Trad" thing, as if he's accidentally discovering everything for the first time, like a pioneer, and if there are whole groups ALREADY DOING exactly what he's doing, he still wants nothing to do with those groups...

    He'd rather pretend he's "special".

    That's annoying to say the least. That's almost worse than being a standard Novus Ordo priest. At least they are ignorant. This priest is trying to be "special".

    I can't stand when priests try to be "above it all". He's NOT "above it all" although he likes to pretend he is.

    Either Trad or get off the pot.
    Check out his recent X post: :facepalm:



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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #55 on: September 03, 2024, 10:07:53 AM »
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    • With the Bible, lives of saints and plenty of other Catholic books which most Catholics have not read, when do you have time to read fantasy or so called classics in eyes of secularist intellectuals? 

    Do your children need to watch cartoons or read fantasy?   Does your children need Disney clothes or bedding.  Do children need so many toys?  No. 













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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #56 on: September 03, 2024, 11:21:24 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on September 03, 2024, 09:16:42 AM
    Check out his recent X post: :facepalm:



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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #57 on: September 03, 2024, 11:55:27 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on September 03, 2024, 11:21:24 AM
    Sorry for that terrible copy and paste on my phone.

    So this Conservative Novus Ordo priest chooses the missal that he will use on a given day based on the mass of that day.

    Do you like a saint that is not included in the 39? No problem, just pick the 62. :laugh1:

    It's hard to understand how such a priest is taken seriously by some people. 

    There was never a time in the Church when a priest could choose which missal to use, as far as I know.
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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #58 on: September 03, 2024, 12:59:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Giovanni Berto on September 03, 2024, 11:55:27 AM
    Do you like a saint that is not included in the 39? No problem, just pick the 62. :laugh1:

    The '62 does have all the propers in one place for 3rd September, so honest question here: Do SVs commemorate St. Pius X today? If yes, in which missal is that liturgy? Or does the liturgy of one of the Common Masses get used?  
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    Re: Avoid All Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #59 on: September 04, 2024, 02:56:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on August 28, 2024, 02:33:43 PM
    Yes, but how do these doors get open?  They don't just open on their own.

    A weak willed person just by a whispering in the imagination can open doors, because the demons know exactly who we are.  I do not think that inanimate objects, like words on a page, can open doors.

    :facepalm:  The book was the cause of the curse.  The book opened the door.  Accidentally used by the person, the book is the cause.

    I think that this is what the demons want us to believe.  They want us to believe that you can accidentally give them access, because once you are afraid the demons have more power.

    God does NOT allow (except in rare circuмstances) people to be attacked by demons, who stay away from these doors. 

    But don't we all open up doors every time we sin and give offense to God.  You could remove all books, all music, all videos and still have issues with demons, because our sin opens us up to demonic attacks.

    And she BECAME susceptible due to this book.  She was not susceptible "just because".  That's not how it works.

    My guess is either she had certain sins in the household that were not being addressed or someone else had a sin that was not being addressed and she was the easiest one for the demon to get to.
    You probably didn't need a reply, I just felt like responding.

    Again this story bothered me because it only seemed like a band aid approach.  We have to realize that we have to make ourselves strong, and over come our own sins, because the spiritual battle ahead will be worse than any physical battle we have ever seen.  This is why it matters that we make sure we get our Sacraments from true priests.


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