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Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2017, 06:35:34 PM »
J.Paul: It is impossible for LoT to be honest when it comes to Father Leonard Feeney; he has a blind hatred for this priest and cannot even bring himself to judge that that this priest might have been in good faith when he opined about BOD.
It is LoT's "Cartago delenda est"; "destroy the memory of this priest", discredit him in every way and let no one have any happy memories of him at all. What a way to make a living, LoT. 

Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2017, 03:18:51 PM »
LoT ... the Monsignor ... 


Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2017, 09:08:49 AM »
Correct me if I wrong, and I'm sure I'm not, but you believe that Suprema Haec Sacra is an infallible act of the Magisterium(it's not).

In Suprema Haec it says: "Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth."

This implies the definition of "outside" in the Dogma EENS as only those who know Christ established the Church and reject it. This is leaps and bounds more liberal than, as you put it, ALL. In fact, who would this really exclude anyway? Who truly knows that Christ established a Church that you must submit to in order to be saved and then decides to say "nah, I'm good". People who believe in their heart but do not outwardly show it, maybe could be included? The only others I can think of are former Catholics. Even most of them wouldn't count because they probably no longer believe the Church was established by Christ, therefore able to be saved by this false interpretation.

Your claim that BODers believe EENS applies to "all" outside the Church is plainly untrue if you are including yourself in that group.
I do not believe it is infallible, it is authoritative which means it is safe.  It also contains infallible teachings.  The good Catholic, including theologians give their ascent to it.  Are you aware of an authoritative docuмent with the approval of a valid pope that contained heresy?

Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2017, 09:42:07 AM »
I do not believe it is infallible, it is authoritative which means it is safe.  It also contains infallible teachings.  The good Catholic, including theologians give their ascent to it.  Are you aware of an authoritative docuмent with the approval of a valid pope that contained heresy?
According to you, It contains the kernel ideas of Vatican II, it therefore cannot be safe. Many theologians have given their ascent to Vatican II, so why do you persist in being a sedevacantist?

Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2017, 09:44:40 AM »
It’s the height of irony that Feeneyites have no trust at all in the very Church outside of which they insist there is no salvation! Listening to them, you’d think there is no salvation INSIDE the Church!