Author Topic: Original catechism of Saint Pius X in Italian (Read 8279 times)

Stubborn · « **Reply #65 on:** October 13, 2013, 11:00:37 AM »

SJB,
Matthew knows that a BOD is not a dogma and in the rules, he has posted so. Your attempt at insulting me for defending the necessity of the Sacrament (which is a dogma) is lamentable, but still, I think one day there's always that chance that you may accept the teaching on the Sacrament from of Our Lord, Apostles, Councils, popes, saints, catechisms and theologians who universally mean what they teach when they echo the words of Our Lord in Mat 3:5.

Now there is nothing to debate - try very hard to actually do what was asked - provide the complete formula for a BOD. Be sure and try not to leave anything out.

Stubborn · « **Reply #66 on:** October 13, 2013, 11:04:58 AM »

Quote from: Jehanne

If "Feeneyism" was as big of "error" as you say that it is, one must wonder (out loud) why Father Feeney's Bread of Life was not placed on the Index. There was plenty of time from its publication (January 1, 1952) until the death of Pope Pius XII (October 9, 1958) for this to have had happened:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007ELXAA/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0007ELXAA&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20

P.S. Read the reviews at Amazon. By the way, SJB, have you ever read Bread of Life?

SJB is another one who has no idea what he is even arguing about - so long as he can call names and attempt insults toward those who defend the necessity of the Sacrament, he accomplishes his purpose in posting on CI.

SJB · « **Reply #67 on:** October 13, 2013, 05:11:40 PM »

Quote from: Stubborn

Quote from: Jehanne
If "Feeneyism" was as big of "error" as you say that it is, one must wonder (out loud) why Father Feeney's Bread of Life was not placed on the Index. There was plenty of time from its publication (January 1, 1952) until the death of Pope Pius XII (October 9, 1958) for this to have had happened:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007ELXAA/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0007ELXAA&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20

P.S. Read the reviews at Amazon. By the way, SJB, have you ever read Bread of Life?

SJB is another one who has no idea what he is even arguing about - so long as he can call names and attempt insults toward those who defend the necessity of the Sacrament, he accomplishes his purpose in posting on CI.

I made reference to the error of the "feeneyites," which has nothing to do with Fr. Feeney. I've said many times I HAVE NO DESIRE to attack Fr. Feeney.

SJB · « **Reply #68 on:** October 13, 2013, 07:07:46 PM »

Quote from: Stubborn

SJB,
Matthew knows that a BOD is not a dogma and in the rules, he has posted so. Your attempt at insulting me for defending the necessity of the Sacrament (which is a dogma) is lamentable, but still, I think one day there's always that chance that you may accept the teaching on the Sacrament from of Our Lord, Apostles, Councils, popes, saints, catechisms and theologians who universally mean what they teach when they echo the words of Our Lord in Mat 3:5.

Now there is nothing to debate - try very hard to actually do what was asked - provide the complete formula for a BOD. Be sure and try not to leave anything out.

Then Matthew is wrong because the argument isn't that BOD is a dogma, it's that Catholics are required to hold much more than just defined dogmas.

I'm not sure Matthew understands the issue. I know you don't.

Nishant · « **Reply #69 on:** October 14, 2013, 05:09:05 AM »

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Now there is nothing to debate - try very hard to actually do what was asked - provide the complete formula for a BOD. Be sure and try not to leave anything out.

Quote from: St. Alphonsus

baptism of desire is perfect conversion to God by contrition or love of God above all things accompanied by an explicit or implicit desire for true Baptism of water.

Baptism of blood is the shedding of one’s blood, i.e. death, suffered for the Faith or for some other Christian virtue.

The proposition all Catholics must assent to, under pain of mortal sin, is that there are indeed souls that have been saved by baptism of desire and blood.