Author Topic: Limbo & Baptism? (Read 25121 times)

CM · « **Reply #15 on:** September 01, 2009, 03:05:51 PM »

Not to mention the baptism of blood question is condemned almost by name in the same decree: "nobody can be saved... even if they shed their blood for the name of Christ... unless they have persevered in the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church"

Jehanne · « **Reply #16 on:** September 01, 2009, 03:13:33 PM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

Quote from: LoT
BTW - Catholic Martyr cannot find a priest that believes the Feeneyite heresy. I wonder why.

"But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?"

Heresy? So now you are saying that baptism of blood is a Dvinely revealed dogma? Sorry, but that is quite ridiculous.

Quote from: LoT
And secondly, simply, definitively and dogmatically put - THERE IS NO SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CHURCH. Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus.

This is, of course, an inconvenient belief for the modernists of our day but this is the truth nonetheless and the truth is what all true Catholics MUST accept in order to stay Catholic for if a Catholic rejects one truth of the faith he can no longer be considered a Catholic but a heretic.

Oh the irony.

The 'limbo question' is quite adequately answered by the ex cethedra decree Cantate Domino. "...all those who are outside the Catholic Church ... will go into the fire prepared for the devil and his angels..."

Yet you Modernists try to deny and twsit what the words mean. It is remarkably mind boggling.

If BoB and/or BoD do exist, can we all agree that such a desire must be explicit, that is, vowtum? Is not this why sacramental Baptism is the only recourse for infants attaining the Beatific Vision?

CM · « **Reply #17 on:** September 01, 2009, 09:12:52 PM »

They do not exist, except in the fallible speculation of human minds. Once certain decrees had been promulgated, the 'doctrines' no longer exist except in the minds of the unwary and the rebellious infidelity of Modernists.

Jehanne · « **Reply #18 on:** September 02, 2009, 10:03:38 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

They do not exist, except in the fallible speculation of human minds. Once certain decrees had been promulgated, the 'doctrines' no longer exist except in the minds of the unwary and the rebellious infidelity of Modernists.

So, Saint Thomas Aquinas was a heretic?!

CMMM · « **Reply #19 on:** September 02, 2009, 10:49:28 AM »

Jehanne, Catholic Martyr has his own unique theology which I'm sure he'll share with you shortly, but you'll find most of it a few pages back on this forum.

Basically, Thomas was not a heretic because his though was not condemned until after his death.

(In fact, I believe it was never condemned at all, but CM will clarify.)

Author Topic: Limbo &amp; Baptism? (Read 25121 times)

Author Topic: Limbo & Baptism? (Read 25121 times)