I asked lad WHAT the manualists are listing. He refused to answer.
The problem here is, and this is why I am actually beginning to think feenyites are actually not intelligent people, is that they are taking an APPARENT contradiction between bod and eens and without ANY theological support trying to drive a wedge between the two.
Trust me when I accuse them of being dim witted that's me being charitable , because the other choice is them being malicious.
Someone like you Godfrey, or Ladislaus or the many others are probably being malicious.. because you are not stupid people in other areas.
Root cause of this disorder is pride, most likely.