Author Topic: Whats wrong with FSSP Masses? (Read 7818 times)

Matthew · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2015, 04:31:58 PM »

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Over time, you and your family will come to get more comfortable with Vatican II. It will slowly cease to be the horrible monster THAT IT ACTUALLY IS.

You will certainly come to forget that the Church is in a horrible Crisis. After all, if you can have your Latin Mass every Sunday with the permission of Rome, what's all the fuss about? Those "Traditionalists" -- what's their problem?

I must disagree. Me and mine have attended FSSP for five years or more. The problems stemming from Vatican II are more apparent than ever for us. Pope Francis, in fact, has only served as an accelerant for just how aware the wife and I are to Modernist creep.

But if your children hang around a bunch of worldly "Indult" children, the intensity of the fight (fervor, knowledge, etc.) will definitely be lessened in the next generation.

A single man (or couple) who is educated and determined could just about survive the Novus Ordo.

That doesn't mean it's a good solution for most families.

Stubborn · « **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2015, 04:52:28 PM »

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The FSSP pastor hammers on the Pope just about every Sunday. He's very black and white about doctrine. He told me he despises ambiguity and he has to keep the flock from succuмbing to modernist creep. So now we go there most of the time.
I did notice more modernism at the FSSP parish in San Diego, but not in the clergy, and not at their other locations that I've visited. It dawned on me a short time ago that if I was blindfolded and brought to an FSSP Mass or devotion and told it was SSPX, I wouldn't know the difference.

I think you might need to remain blind folded otherwise the way the congregation dresses i.e. many with no head coverings, blue jeans, etc. might give it away that you're not at a SSPX Mass and are a part of the inherent indifferentism that goes along with the NOFSSP.

Here's a NOFSSP Pontifical High Mass:

First thing that stands out is they have a table where no table belongs. There are other things that could be pointed out, but for me, that table is something that has never been a part of the TLM and has always been the NO calling card, personally, I cannot accept it. I don't know what it would take to get me to go there.

Also, try to remember to always preface "FSSP" with "NO" (NOFSSP) to keep the whole thing in proper perspective because that's what the FSSP is, it is Novus Ordo even if it's not apparent because their Mass isn't.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #17 on:** February 06, 2015, 04:57:39 PM »

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FSSP IS of the New Order. That is all that needs to be said. Ordination were changed decades ago. No consecration can take place.

Only if you are a dogmatic sedevacantist and therefore, belong to another church.

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #18 on:** February 06, 2015, 06:44:39 PM »

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Quote from: Matthew
Over time, you and your family will come to get more comfortable with Vatican II. It will slowly cease to be the horrible monster THAT IT ACTUALLY IS.

You will certainly come to forget that the Church is in a horrible Crisis. After all, if you can have your Latin Mass every Sunday with the permission of Rome, what's all the fuss about? Those "Traditionalists" -- what's their problem?

I must disagree. Me and mine have attended FSSP for five years or more. The problems stemming from Vatican II are more apparent than ever for us. Pope Francis, in fact, has only served as an accelerant for just how aware the wife and I are to Modernist creep.

But if your children hang around a bunch of worldly "Indult" children, the intensity of the fight (fervor, knowledge, etc.) will definitely be lessened in the next generation.

I don't know what will happen to the babies. We're doing our best. I'm not a cradle Catholic, and so I wasn't raised in the Church. My entire conversion into the Faith was a rebellion against harsh realities in my life. My kids don't have those harsh realities, so it's a different story for them.

One thing is for sure, though. About a month ago, we ended up going to a Novus Ordo Mass due to circuмstances. My kids were puzzled and knew something was off the entire time. They're all under the age of 5.

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On a side note, I have neither up-thumbed or down-thumbed anyone in this thread.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #19 on:** February 06, 2015, 07:36:31 PM »

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Over time, you and your family will come to get more comfortable with Vatican II. It will slowly cease to be the horrible monster THAT IT ACTUALLY IS.

You will certainly come to forget that the Church is in a horrible Crisis. After all, if you can have your Latin Mass every Sunday with the permission of Rome, what's all the fuss about? Those "Traditionalists" -- what's their problem?

I must disagree. Me and mine have attended FSSP for five years or more. The problems stemming from Vatican II are more apparent than ever for us. Pope Francis, in fact, has only served as an accelerant for just how aware the wife and I are to Modernist creep.

But if your children hang around a bunch of worldly "Indult" children, the intensity of the fight (fervor, knowledge, etc.) will definitely be lessened in the next generation.

A single man (or couple) who is educated and determined could just about survive the Novus Ordo.

That doesn't mean it's a good solution for most families.

Sorry but that is not always the case. I guess it all depends on the particular chapel and family. Personally, I have witnessed a lot more dysfunctional families with unruly, poorly taught children in the local SSPX Chapel than in the FSSP.

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