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Offline BOTHY

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Re: SSPX -- kindest confessors
« Reply #60 on: May 15, 2024, 09:05:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 13, 2024, 04:08:39 PM
    Fr. James Doran was an SSPX professor at Winona in '94-'97.  I looked up that Maronite chapel in Maine, no head coverings and the NO table.  https://sjmaronite.org/index.php/en-us/ 
    Yeah, hard to believe he made that transition. I know he did have an affinity for the plight of Christians in the Middle East. 
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    Re: SSPX -- kindest confessors
    « Reply #61 on: June 04, 2024, 10:59:46 AM »
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    • Where is Fr. Daniel Cooper or Fr. Richard Boyle located?  Thank you.
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    Re: SSPX -- kindest confessors
    « Reply #62 on: June 04, 2024, 11:14:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 04, 2024, 10:59:46 AM
    Where is Fr. Daniel Cooper or Fr. Richard Boyle located?  Thank you.

    Alas, Father Daniel Cooper (best confessor I ever had) passed away in 2018 from cancer.  I don't know anything about Fr. Boyle.
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    Re: SSPX -- kindest confessors
    « Reply #63 on: June 04, 2024, 11:17:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 04, 2024, 10:59:46 AM
    Where is Fr. Daniel Cooper or Fr. Richard Boyle located?  Thank you.

    Fr. Richard Boyle is the current prior at BVM Chapel/Mater Dei Academy in Warners, NY, near Syracuse.

    Fr. Daniel Cooper - here is a link to more info re the post directly above.
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    Re: SSPX -- kindest confessors
    « Reply #64 on: June 14, 2024, 08:06:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 13, 2024, 04:08:39 PM
    Fr. James Doran was an SSPX professor at Winona in '94-'97.  I looked up that Maronite chapel in Maine, no head coverings and the NO table.  https://sjmaronite.org/index.php/en-us/ 


    To be fair that type of alter may be the tradition of the Maronites. I've never attended a Maronite Liturgy but I am very familiar with Byzantine rite Catholics and the Alter is always a square looking table. 
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    Re: SSPX -- kindest confessors
    « Reply #65 on: June 15, 2024, 02:54:46 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 14, 2024, 08:06:02 PM

    To be fair that type of alter may be the tradition of the Maronites. I've never attended a Maronite Liturgy but I am very familiar with Byzantine rite Catholics and the Alter is always a square looking table.
    I have been to Maronite masses in Lebanon. They are modernists mostly, altar girls, and parts of the mass have been changed too. Some modern churches (like the one for St Charbel if I remember correctly) are built in a circle with the altar (table) in the middle. 
    The monasteries seemed more conservative to me. 
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    Re: SSPX -- kindest confessors
    « Reply #66 on: June 15, 2024, 08:08:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 15, 2024, 02:54:46 AM
    I have been to Maronite masses in Lebanon. They are modernists mostly, altar girls, and parts of the mass have been changed too. Some modern churches (like the one for St Charbel if I remember correctly) are built in a circle with the altar (table) in the middle.
    The monasteries seemed more conservative to me.

    There's a lot of variation.  For good and for bad, the Maronites have been the one Eastern Rite that tend to follow trends in Roman Liturgy more closely.  But the priests seem to have a lot of liberty, and the more conservative ones will have a more conservative Liturgical implementation ... though they are getting fewer and farther between as time goes on.  There was a Maronite priest in Chicago who welcomed SSPX seminarians and was of a Traditional mindset, and I remember that he was always at odds with a younger priest who had been assigned to his church.
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    Re: SSPX -- kindest confessors
    « Reply #67 on: June 15, 2024, 11:21:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 15, 2024, 08:08:48 AM
    There's a lot of variation.  For good and for bad, the Maronites have been the one Eastern Rite that tend to follow trends in Roman Liturgy more closely.  But the priests seem to have a lot of liberty, and the more conservative ones will have a more conservative Liturgical implementation ... though they are getting fewer and farther between as time goes on.  There was a Maronite priest in Chicago who welcomed SSPX seminarians and was of a Traditional mindset, and I remember that he was always at odds with a younger priest who had been assigned to his church.

    I have always found the Maronite liturgy to be basically "the Novus Ordo, just done a little differently".  I don't know if I'd even think of them as an "Eastern rite", more like an essentially Western rite with Lebanese characteristics.  They're nothing like the Melkites or other Byzantine Catholics.
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    « Reply #68 on: June 15, 2024, 03:18:08 PM »
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    • They would not be like Byzantine or Melkites as they are not Greeks but Syriac liturgically, and although they're classified as West Syriac they've always been closer and have always had a mix of East Syriac in their anaphora formation, they're closer liturgically to the Malabar and ACoE than West Syriac 
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    Re: SSPX -- kindest confessors
    « Reply #69 on: June 15, 2024, 06:51:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 15, 2024, 03:18:08 PM
    They would not be like Byzantine or Melkites as they are not Greeks but Syriac liturgically, and although they're classified as West Syriac they've always been closer and have always had a mix of East Syriac in their anaphora formation, they're closer liturgically to the Malabar and ACoE than West Syriac

    I'll take your word for it.  I'm no expert.
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    Re: SSPX -- kindest confessors
    « Reply #70 on: July 10, 2024, 09:16:05 AM »
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    • I would like to visit Fr. Kevin Robinson for confession.  Does anyone know where Father Kevin Robinson's parish is located? 
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    « Reply #71 on: July 10, 2024, 09:21:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on July 10, 2024, 09:16:05 AM
    I would like to visit Fr. Kevin Robinson for confession.  Does anyone know where Father Kevin Robinson's parish is located?

    He's been stationed at Ridgefield, CT at the retreat house there and often gives retreats, but then I think he has a couple mission chapels he goes to (not sure which ones).
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    Re: SSPX -- kindest confessors
    « Reply #72 on: July 10, 2024, 09:24:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on June 15, 2024, 11:21:21 AM
    I have always found the Maronite liturgy to be basically "the Novus Ordo, just done a little differently".  I don't know if I'd even think of them as an "Eastern rite", more like an essentially Western rite with Lebanese characteristics.  They're nothing like the Melkites or other Byzantine Catholics.

    That's only because the Maronites have always "Romanized" a lot, for good or (now with the NO) for bad.  Mostly the recent changes consist of arrangement of the sanctuary, altar girls and lay lectors, sappy modern songs, etc. ... but not to the essential Liturgy itself.  If you can find a conservative priest, he could still have retained the older customs in this regard, but most have now modernized.
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    Re: SSPX -- kindest confessors
    « Reply #73 on: July 10, 2024, 10:26:13 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on July 10, 2024, 09:16:05 AM
    I would like to visit Fr. Kevin Robinson for confession.  Does anyone know where Father Kevin Robinson's parish is located?
    Saint Anthony of Padua, North Caldwell, New Jersey. https://fsspx.today/chapel/nj-north-caldwell/info/

    also: https://m.facebook.com/100064533680788/
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    Re: SSPX -- kindest confessors
    « Reply #74 on: July 16, 2024, 07:05:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 16, 2023, 08:36:56 PM
    …would not make her never want to go back again…Some of the priests I know (whom I won't name) would scare her off and make her never set foot back in a Traditional church again…
    This is very odd, never encountered this before. 

    What kinds of things do they do that would scare people off?
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