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I know someone who's been away from the Church for a very long time but is afraid of going to Confession. So I'm looking for recommendations of a very kind and gentle confessor who would not make her never want to go back again. She's located in south central Ohio, but we're willing to make a road trip to Walton, KY or Pittsburgh, West Virginia, or even the Cleveland area ... somewhere in that radius. Some of the priests I know (whom I won't name) would scare her off and make her never set foot back in a Traditional church again. Any suggestions? Someone who's very gentle, kind, compassionate, etc.
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Fr. Gerard Beck.
I’ve unloaded on him many, many times in the confessional, and his response was to stay humble (ie., continue to confess, and don’t throw in the towel).
Because of him, personally, I did not despair, and overcame a couple habitual sins (still working on the rest!).
That will redound to his glory.
He’s far from lax, but you will sense tgat priest will put you back on the path to heaven, and that’s what matters most.
His moral theology is outstanding.
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My wife told me to recommend Father Horvath at Our Lady of Assumption in Walton, KY. He's always been gentle, kind, and compassionate with her in confession. However, you may need to call and make an appointment. The bulletin is not always the most accurate about who is hearing confessions.
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All the SSPX priests that I've confessed to are kind, compassionate, gentle and fatherly. The most imporant thing when going to confession is to be humble and honest.
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Agree regarding Father Beck, and would add Father Alphonsus Maria.
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I have confessed with Fr. Alphonsus Maria before. He is excellent!
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Thank you for the responses. Where is Father Beck currently stationed? I think that Father Alphonsus is in Michigan now but travels around.
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All the SSPX priests that I've confessed to are kind, compassionate, gentle and fatherly. The most imporant thing when going to confession is to be humble and honest.
I have confessed with Fr. Alphonsus Maria before. He is excellent!
Agree regarding Father Beck, and would add Father Alphonsus Maria.
All of the above. I do not know Fr. Beck, but Fr. Alphonsus is truly excellent particularly for the OP.
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I don't know where he is now, but I once confessed to Fr Helmuts Libietis, and I found him to be an outstanding confessor.
I know opinions about the FSSP vary widely on this forum, but I also found Fr Mark Fischer to be very good.
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Australian Father Kevin Robinson is a really holy priest.
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My wife told me to recommend Father Horvath at Our Lady of Assumption in Walton, KY. He's always been gentle, kind, and compassionate with her in confession. However, you may need to call and make an appointment. The bulletin is not always the most accurate about who is hearing confessions.
After sins are confessed, does Father Horvat pray the traditional Absolution in Latin?
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Fr. Gerard Beck.
I’ve unloaded on him many, many times in the confessional, and his response was to stay humble (ie., continue to confess, and don’t throw in the towel).
Because of him, personally, I did not despair, and overcame a couple habitual sins (still working on the rest!).
That will redound to his glory.
He’s far from lax, but you will sense tgat priest will put you back on the path to heaven, and that’s what matters most.
His moral theology is outstanding.
Interesting that he was so different face-to-face with me. I found him presumptuous, arrogant, and wrong—a typical "short man syndrome."
During a time we were not homeschooling, I privately objected to him about mandatory school assignments for summer. I said that it is my and my wife's primary responsibility to educate our children, that I allowed the school authority for 9 months of the year in loco parentis, and that I had other educational plans for the summer (Spanish). He said that the Church has the primary responsibility to educate children in the Faith, parents have no rights if they are doing a poor job raising their children (not the case, but the insult was not lost on me), and he turned his back and walked away.
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After sins are confessed, does Father Horvat pray the traditional Absolution in Latin?
Would there even be a question of this? Not that the English wouldn't be valid, but why would a Traditional / SSPX priest do otherwise?
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Would there even be a question of this? Not that the English wouldn't be valid, but why would a Traditional / SSPX priest do otherwise?
The question is raised because I went to Confession with him several years back and he said no Absolution prayers after I confessed.
It was more from the Novus ordo spirit of "God bless you and have a nice day".
The simple question is, Does Father Horvat pray the traditional Catholic Absolution? Yes or No ?
And if he's truly conditionally formed and ordained, then why wouldn't he pray the Latin Absolution?
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Interesting that he was so different face-to-face with me. I found him presumptuous, arrogant, and wrong—a typical "short man syndrome."
During a time we were not homeschooling, I privately objected to him about mandatory school assignments for summer. I said that it is my and my wife's primary responsibility to educate our children, that I allowed the school authority for 9 months of the year in loco parentis, and that I had other educational plans for the summer (Spanish). He said that the Church has the primary responsibility to educate children in the Faith, parents have no rights if they are doing a poor job raising their children (not the case, but the insult was not lost on me), and he turned his back and walked away.
We don’t do summer assignments in our homeschool. Summer vacation is summer vacation. Never heard of such a thing when I was growing up. We did do an assignment after the semester was over one year, but that was because it had not been done during the semester and we needed to make it up. I believe that was the summer my father passed, and we had to put together homeschool the best we could. Thankfully nobody ever looks at what you did in Grade 8. There is no question of needing to accuмulate high school credit.
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We don’t do summer assignments in our homeschool. Summer vacation is summer vacation. Never heard of such a thing when I was growing up. We did do an assignment after the semester was over one year, but that was because it had not been done during the semester and we needed to make it up. I believe that was the summer my father passed, and we had to put together homeschool the best we could. Thankfully nobody ever looks at what you did in Grade 8. There is no question of needing to accuмulate high school credit.
We did different things for summer when we were homeschooling—sometimes totally free like in the old days, sometimes a year of math in 2½ months, sometimes summer P.E. was martial arts. Our children have turned out well and as Catholics better than me (probably my wife's influence). I'm glad to hear that Sean had a good confessional experience with Fr. Beck, but I would have seen the name on the confessional and turned away as he turned his back to me while I was still politely talking.
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The question is raised because I went to Confession with him several years back and he said no Absolution prayers after I confessed.
It was more from the Novus ordo spirit of "God bless you and have a nice day".
The simple question is, Does Father Horvat pray the traditional Catholic Absolution? Yes or No ?
And if he's truly conditionally formed and ordained, then why wouldn't he pray the Latin Absolution?
There is no need to fear, he did pray the Latin words of absolution, some priests say the words of absolution in a low tone. One time we had a visiting priest and he said the words of absolution in a low tone. My priest says the words of absolution in a louder tone so that I am able to hear.
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The question is raised because I went to Confession with him several years back and he said no Absolution prayers after I confessed.
It was more from the Novus ordo spirit of "God bless you and have a nice day".
The simple question is, Does Father Horvat pray the traditional Catholic Absolution? Yes or No ?
And if he's truly conditionally formed and ordained, then why wouldn't he pray the Latin Absolution?
Are you sure? I know priests who give the absolution while you're making the Act of Contrition and do it in a low voice, so that you may not hear it while you're talking.
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There is no need to fear, he did pray the Latin words of absolution, some priests say the words of absolution in a low tone. One time we had a visiting priest and he said the words of absolution in a low tone. My priest says the words of absolution in a louder tone so that I am able to hear.
Sorry. I responded before I saw this. Not only do they say it in a lower voice, but some of them say it while you're making the Act of Contrition ... which would make it nearly impossible to hear. By the time you're done, they're also done, so all that's left to say is a "God bless you."
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Australian Father Kevin Robinson is a really holy priest.
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Father Kapsoff.
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Do folks have the whereabouts of some of these priests mentioned? It's hard to find from Society websites.
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There is no need to fear, he did pray the Latin words of absolution, some priests say the words of absolution in a low tone. One time we had a visiting priest and he said the words of absolution in a low tone. My priest says the words of absolution in a louder tone so that I am able to hear.
Now that I think of it, I've had that happen. IIRC, I asked the priest "did you absolve me?", and he good-naturedly replied that he had indeed.
Nothing to see here.
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We did different things for summer when we were homeschooling—sometimes totally free like in the old days, sometimes a year of math in 2½ months, sometimes summer P.E. was martial arts. Our children have turned out well and as Catholics better than me (probably my wife's influence). I'm glad to hear that Sean had a good confessional experience with Fr. Beck, but I would have seen the name on the confessional and turned away as he turned his back to me while I was still politely talking.
In actual practice, we do homeschool in ten months, with a two-month summer/fall vacation, usually the months of August and September (June and July are just too hot where we live, crank the AC and stay inside). We normally take a roughly three-week Christmas break, but OTOH we generally don't do secular holidays.
There's no ideological reason for that, we just prefer to take "holidays" as desired, no pattern to it, whenever we need a day off, and to take off 4th of July, Memorial Day, and so on, on top of that, would just run us that much shorter on summer vacation.
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Australian Father Kevin Robinson is a really holy priest.
Truly so!
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Maybe Father James Thielen in Mechanicsburg, OH. He used to serve Urbana area.
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Australian Father Kevin Robinson is a really holy priest.
Fr. Kevin Robinson has become a U.S. citizen, if I’m not mistaken. He also sued the state of NJ for closing his chapel—-and won. He’s strongly anti-vaxx, and not just for Covid. I’m not sure where he’s located, possibly Ridgefield, CT priory. Last I heard, he said Mass in Pittston, PA. That’s an awfully long drive, but if it’s a general confession you want to make to a priest who won’t be harsh, rather, gentle and understanding, he might be willing to meet at some halfway location? Even if he can’t absolve a person, he always gives practical advice on how to overcome your sin or to have true contrition. He does pray for his penitents. You might try getting in touch with him through the Ridgefield priory.
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Fr. Kevin Robinson has become a U.S. citizen, if I’m not mistaken. He also sued the state of NJ for closing his chapel—-and won. He’s strongly anti-vaxx, and not just for Covid. I’m not sure where he’s located, possibly Ridgefield, CT priory. Last I heard, he said Mass in Pittston, PA. That’s an awfully long drive, but if it’s a general confession you want to make to a priest who won’t be harsh, rather, gentle and understanding, he might be willing to meet at some halfway location? Even if he can’t absolve a person, he always gives practical advice on how to overcome your sin or to have true contrition. He does pray for his penitents. You might try getting in touch with him through the Ridgefield priory.
Agree re Fr. Robinson. He is in fact currently at Ridgefield, and serves the NJ SSPX chapel (St. Anthony of Padua) on Sundays and holy days.
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Fr. Kevin Robinson has become a U.S. citizen, if I’m not mistaken. He also sued the state of NJ for closing his chapel—-and won. He’s strongly anti-vaxx, and not just for Covid. I’m not sure where he’s located, possibly Ridgefield, CT priory. Last I heard, he said Mass in Pittston, PA. That’s an awfully long drive, but if it’s a general confession you want to make to a priest who won’t be harsh, rather, gentle and understanding, he might be willing to meet at some halfway location? Even if he can’t absolve a person, he always gives practical advice on how to overcome your sin or to have true contrition. He does pray for his penitents. You might try getting in touch with him through the Ridgefield priory.
I would never have thought of asking a priest to meet you somewhere halfway. That would be hugely "pastoral" and is a great idea. There are any number of secular places you could get together, such as a private study carrel in a library (the ones with closed doors and a window in the door), or a vacant classroom in a college or university that would be willing to accommodate you, on weekends they're pretty much free, You could also meet at a private area of an outdoor municipal park.
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After sins are confessed, does Father Horvat pray the traditional Absolution in Latin?
Every time my wife and I have gone to Father Horvath for confession his absolutions have been in Latin. Also, Father Horvath was ordained (maybe "ordained") in the Novus Ordo, but I think he was conditionally ordained. Some others have posted on this forum, that he says or that they were told that he requested and received a conditional ordination when he joined the SSPX.
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Fr. Horvath is probably a living saint despite any visible imperfections.
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Fr Horvath had a heart attack early this week. Please keep him in your prayers.
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We did different things for summer when we were homeschooling—sometimes totally free like in the old days, sometimes a year of math in 2½ months, sometimes summer P.E. was martial arts. Our children have turned out well and as Catholics better than me (probably my wife's influence). I'm glad to hear that Sean had a good confessional experience with Fr. Beck, but I would have seen the name on the confessional and turned away as he turned his back to me while I was still politely talking.
And sometimes doing target math at the range...
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Probably the best SSPX priest I experienced as a confessor was Father Daniel Cooper.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fsspx.org%2Fsites%2Fsspx%2Ffiles%2Fmedia%2Fusa-district%2Fnew-news%2F32089745_1921236197909662_1019171777718255616_n.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=e5251630977d66b72421db56d1ca84c5b87e829a3221316de88793eee96fe4c8&ipo=images)
Next to that, it would be Father Richard Boyle.
(https://syracuse-p.prod.sspx.org/sites/sspx/files/styles/main_visual/public/media/fr_boyle-2.jpg?itok=sCOJNXyt)
He seems to have an interest and insight into repentant souls who seek the Sacrament of Confession.
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Fr Horvath had a heart attack early this week. Please keep him in your prayers.
:pray: 💔 :pray: ❤️
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:pray: 💔 :pray: ❤️
:pray: ... this should probably get its own thread.
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Fr Horvath had a heart attack early this week. Please keep him in your prayers.
He'll be in my rosary intention. Fr Horvath is, by far, my favorite SSPX priest that comes to my local chapel.
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The question is raised because I went to Confession with him several years back and he said no Absolution prayers after I confessed.
It was more from the Novus ordo spirit of "God bless you and have a nice day".
The simple question is, Does Father Horvat pray the traditional Catholic Absolution? Yes or No ?
And if he's truly conditionally formed and ordained, then why wouldn't he pray the Latin Absolution?
It's been a while since I confessed to Fr Horvath, but I'm pretty sure he recites the absolution prayer in Latin. He does say something along the lines of "God bless you" after you recite the act of contrition. I'll pay attention to it next time I confess to him. He's scheduled to be back at my local chapel next month.
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Fr Bourbeau is really gentle priest in the confessional, and in general. He's at the Walton priory during the week most of the time, but I don't know his schedule there. He's the regular priest that comes out to North Carolina every weekend.
And like others have said, I also recommend Fr Horvath. Gentle in confession, but also takes initiative to offer advice on dealing with sin.
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Fr. Otto Keiser. I think he is in St. Louis now or at least Missouri.
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The confessionals have the absolution prayer pinned on the wall in the NC chapel. I am sure all the priests utilize it. :pray:
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Fr Horvath had a heart attack early this week. Please keep him in your prayers.
Thank you for telling us! We will pray for him!
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It's been a while since I confessed to Fr Horvath, but I'm pretty sure he recites the absolution prayer in Latin. He does say something along the lines of "God bless you" after you recite the act of contrition. I'll pay attention to it next time I confess to him. He's scheduled to be back at my local chapel next month.
That's good! As militant Catholics we should always watch over the Sacraments.
In 1983, the "Naughty Nine" defectors rightly criticized the SSPX's acceptance of new rite, non-conditionally ordained priests entering the Society.
Bp. Huonder is our latest reminder of a Novus ordo clerics entering the SSPX with an agenda.
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Thank you for telling us! We will pray for him!
Father has recovered and celebrated Mass in Louisville yesterday.
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Probably the best SSPX priest I experienced as a confessor was Father Daniel Cooper.
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At my telephone request from 1,500 miles distant, Fr. Cooper visited a lapsed Catholic friend on his death bed. Indeed an alter-Christus.
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And sometimes doing target math at the range...
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Good one!
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Father has recovered and celebrated Mass in Louisville yesterday.
Deo gratias, that's the best news that I've heard all week! I'm excited for his upcoming visit at our chapel next month.
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That's good! As militant Catholics we should always watch over the Sacraments.
In 1983, the "Naughty Nine" defectors rightly criticized the SSPX's acceptance of new rite, non-conditionally ordained priests entering the Society.
Bp. Huonder is our latest reminder of a Novus ordo clerics entering the SSPX with an agenda.
Which only shows that the SSPX was compromising well before the so-called "ralliement".
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Is anyone able to suggest a SSPX Priest and parish for confession in the New York City area? It's been a while. Thank you!
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I would never have thought of asking a priest to meet you somewhere halfway. That would be hugely "pastoral" and is a great idea. There are any number of secular places you could get together, such as a private study carrel in a library (the ones with closed doors and a window in the door), or a vacant classroom in a college or university that would be willing to accommodate you, on weekends they're pretty much free, You could also meet at a private area of an outdoor municipal park.
Fr Kevin Robinson is hugely pastoral. He invited himself to our home which was 150 kms from the home Mass he was celebrating in a garage. While visiting us he also visited an enclosed convent and offered to say the TLM for the nuns (who were willing) but the bishop refused permission. He would have gone to the university campus across the road to talk to students if he had had the time. After that we attended SSPX Masses in the garage.
In his marriage preparation, he counsels prospective spouses to make sure they know each others stand on Vax before they marry.
Not only holy but wise.
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Me
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Father Budds, SSPX … incredibly gentle and kind. Perfect for those who have been away from the Sacraments and not living Catholic lives for a long time.
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Father Kevin Robinson is a great priest.
I recommend him for confession.
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Father Kevin Robinson is a great priest.
I recommend him for confession.
Me.
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Is anyone able to suggest a SSPX Priest and parish for confession in the New York City area? It's been a while. Thank you!
Fr. Carl Sulzen. Saturday and Sunday mornings at St. Michael's in Farmingville, LI and Sunday afternoons at a midtown hotel.
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Fr. Carl Sulzen. Saturday and Sunday mornings at St. Michael's in Farmingville, LI and Sunday afternoons at a midtown hotel.
Indeed, Father Carl Sulzen. I was at STAS with him. Great priest and very kind.
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Fr. Carl Sulzen. Saturday and Sunday mornings at St. Michael's in Farmingville, LI and Sunday afternoons at a midtown hotel.
Me.
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Over the years, I confessed my sins to many FSSXP priests. With the exception of one, all were very kind, patient, and helpful. In fact, over those years, kindness has been the last thing I expected, and I get more grace when a priest is more formal, to the point, and somewhat blunt.
I do not need to be patted on the back.
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Fr. Trevor Burfitt, Fr. James Doran (now a Maronite in Maine), Fr. Kevin Robinson, Fr. Adam Purdy, and Father Nicholas Gardner.
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Fr. Trevor Burfitt, Fr. James Doran (now a Maronite in Maine), Fr. Kevin Robinson, Fr. Adam Purdy, and Father Nicholas Gardner.
Fr. James Doran was an SSPX professor at Winona in '94-'97. I looked up that Maronite chapel in Maine, no head coverings and the NO table. https://sjmaronite.org/index.php/en-us/
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Fr. James Doran was an SSPX professor at Winona in '94-'97. I looked up that Maronite chapel in Maine, no head coverings and the NO table. https://sjmaronite.org/index.php/en-us/
Yeah, hard to believe he made that transition. I know he did have an affinity for the plight of Christians in the Middle East.
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Where is Fr. Daniel Cooper or Fr. Richard Boyle located? Thank you.
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Where is Fr. Daniel Cooper or Fr. Richard Boyle located? Thank you.
Alas, Father Daniel Cooper (best confessor I ever had) passed away in 2018 from cancer. I don't know anything about Fr. Boyle.
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Where is Fr. Daniel Cooper or Fr. Richard Boyle located? Thank you.
Fr. Richard Boyle is the current prior at BVM Chapel/Mater Dei Academy (https://blessedvirginmary-priory.com/en/religious-staff-33089) in Warners, NY, near Syracuse.
Fr. Daniel Cooper (https://sspx.org/en/news/may-1-2019-anniversary-repose-fr-daniel-cooper-21662) - here is a link to more info re the post directly above.
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Fr. James Doran was an SSPX professor at Winona in '94-'97. I looked up that Maronite chapel in Maine, no head coverings and the NO table. https://sjmaronite.org/index.php/en-us/
To be fair that type of alter may be the tradition of the Maronites. I've never attended a Maronite Liturgy but I am very familiar with Byzantine rite Catholics and the Alter is always a square looking table.
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To be fair that type of alter may be the tradition of the Maronites. I've never attended a Maronite Liturgy but I am very familiar with Byzantine rite Catholics and the Alter is always a square looking table.
I have been to Maronite masses in Lebanon. They are modernists mostly, altar girls, and parts of the mass have been changed too. Some modern churches (like the one for St Charbel if I remember correctly) are built in a circle with the altar (table) in the middle.
The monasteries seemed more conservative to me.
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I have been to Maronite masses in Lebanon. They are modernists mostly, altar girls, and parts of the mass have been changed too. Some modern churches (like the one for St Charbel if I remember correctly) are built in a circle with the altar (table) in the middle.
The monasteries seemed more conservative to me.
There's a lot of variation. For good and for bad, the Maronites have been the one Eastern Rite that tend to follow trends in Roman Liturgy more closely. But the priests seem to have a lot of liberty, and the more conservative ones will have a more conservative Liturgical implementation ... though they are getting fewer and farther between as time goes on. There was a Maronite priest in Chicago who welcomed SSPX seminarians and was of a Traditional mindset, and I remember that he was always at odds with a younger priest who had been assigned to his church.
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There's a lot of variation. For good and for bad, the Maronites have been the one Eastern Rite that tend to follow trends in Roman Liturgy more closely. But the priests seem to have a lot of liberty, and the more conservative ones will have a more conservative Liturgical implementation ... though they are getting fewer and farther between as time goes on. There was a Maronite priest in Chicago who welcomed SSPX seminarians and was of a Traditional mindset, and I remember that he was always at odds with a younger priest who had been assigned to his church.
I have always found the Maronite liturgy to be basically "the Novus Ordo, just done a little differently". I don't know if I'd even think of them as an "Eastern rite", more like an essentially Western rite with Lebanese characteristics. They're nothing like the Melkites or other Byzantine Catholics.
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They would not be like Byzantine or Melkites as they are not Greeks but Syriac liturgically, and although they're classified as West Syriac they've always been closer and have always had a mix of East Syriac in their anaphora formation, they're closer liturgically to the Malabar and ACoE than West Syriac
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They would not be like Byzantine or Melkites as they are not Greeks but Syriac liturgically, and although they're classified as West Syriac they've always been closer and have always had a mix of East Syriac in their anaphora formation, they're closer liturgically to the Malabar and ACoE than West Syriac
I'll take your word for it. I'm no expert.
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I would like to visit Fr. Kevin Robinson for confession. Does anyone know where Father Kevin Robinson's parish is located?
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I would like to visit Fr. Kevin Robinson for confession. Does anyone know where Father Kevin Robinson's parish is located?
He's been stationed at Ridgefield, CT at the retreat house there and often gives retreats, but then I think he has a couple mission chapels he goes to (not sure which ones).
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I have always found the Maronite liturgy to be basically "the Novus Ordo, just done a little differently". I don't know if I'd even think of them as an "Eastern rite", more like an essentially Western rite with Lebanese characteristics. They're nothing like the Melkites or other Byzantine Catholics.
That's only because the Maronites have always "Romanized" a lot, for good or (now with the NO) for bad. Mostly the recent changes consist of arrangement of the sanctuary, altar girls and lay lectors, sappy modern songs, etc. ... but not to the essential Liturgy itself. If you can find a conservative priest, he could still have retained the older customs in this regard, but most have now modernized.
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I would like to visit Fr. Kevin Robinson for confession. Does anyone know where Father Kevin Robinson's parish is located?
Saint Anthony of Padua, North Caldwell, New Jersey. https://fsspx.today/chapel/nj-north-caldwell/info/ (https://fsspx.today/chapel/nj-north-caldwell/info/)
also: https://m.facebook.com/100064533680788/ (https://m.facebook.com/100064533680788/)
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…would not make her never want to go back again…Some of the priests I know (whom I won't name) would scare her off and make her never set foot back in a Traditional church again…
This is very odd, never encountered this before.
What kinds of things do they do that would scare people off?
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This is very odd, never encountered this before.
What kinds of things do they do that would scare people off?
Maybe hold to the Catechism of Trent instead of the "catechism" of 1992?
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This is very odd, never encountered this before.
What kinds of things do they do that would scare people off?
I've known a few priests who would berate the penitents. There was one priest, whose name I'll withhold, who could be heard outside the confessional yelling in a loud voice "That's disgusting." so loud that half the Church could hear it. Unfortunately, there are some like that out there, who show little of mercy and compassion but are harsh and will berate the penitent in very arrogant and condescending way. I found that incident a borderline/indirect violation of the Confessional seal.
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I've known a few priests who would berate the penitents. There was one priest, whose name I'll withhold, who could be heard outside the confessional yelling in a loud voice "That's disgusting." so loud that half the Church could hear it. Unfortunately, there are some like that out there, who show little of mercy and compassion but are harsh and will berate the penitent in very arrogant and condescending way. I found that incident a borderline/indirect violation of the Confessional seal.
Directive of St. Alphonsus Ligouri: Priests should be lions in the pulpit but lambs in the confessional.
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I've known a few priests who would berate the penitents. There was one priest, whose name I'll withhold, who could be heard outside the confessional yelling in a loud voice "That's disgusting." so loud that half the Church could hear it. Unfortunately, there are some like that out there, who show little of mercy and compassion but are harsh and will berate the penitent in very arrogant and condescending way. I found that incident a borderline/indirect violation of the Confessional seal.
I remember in my younger days, we had an older traditional priest, one of those priests whom you can tell just by looking at him was incredibly pious. He emanated sanctity.
When you would confess certain sins to him, he would pause for a long time, give a deep sigh and ask you “Why did you do that?”
I remember being afraid to go confess to him but in retrospect I really appreciated his approach. Rather than simply sending me on my way with a simple penance, I was forced to think about why I had committed the sin. I miss him and still pray for him.