In your opinion are SSPX, SSPV, CMRI, Resisitance priests and all those who have been ordained through any of those lines not Catholics, and their Masses are to be avoided?
Are we who attend their Masses under censure along with them?
I saw this on this thread (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=35136&min=25&num=5) and it is a bullseye:
"Ordination does not make a Catholic Priest. This is a lie of Traditionalists. All bishops and priests must have been delegated Jurisdiction in conjunction with their ordination or consecration. This is Divine Law, not just Ecclesiastical Law. Canons 196 & 197 of the 1917 Code of Canon Law, clarify this. Many who are clamoring for and demanding the sacraments will argue this point until they are blue in the face stating that it is not of a divine nature or law (???), therefore can be easily shoved aside in order for them to receive those illicit sacraments, but regardless of their rantings and ravings it isn't so. It has been proven to be of a Divine establishment by Christ Himself and is the distinguishing mark that separates the men from the boys! Every Catholic must have a clear indication which marks who real priests and ministers of Christ are and who are not....... Doesn't this make sense? Perhaps not, due to the fact that many Catholics will open the door to all ravening wolves out there and allow them to tear them to pieces until there is nothing left."
So in keeping with this thread on SSPV, for instance Fr's Baumberger and Greenwell never received delegated jurisdiction in conjunction with their ordinations. Hence, by Church teaching they are not Catholic priests. Their "masses" must be avoided under pain of mortal sin.
Why are you singling out Fr's Baumberger and Greenwell?
What about all those who were ordained by Archbishop Lefebvre and by Bishop Pivarunas?
Do you and your clergy judge that we who attend the Masses of SSPX, SSPV, CMRI, Resisitance priests are all under censure along with them?
For one thing, ++ABL and +Pivarunas did not stash an acutely sick and confused retired bishop "somewhere" and proceed to coerce him to ordain and consecrate in secret, use fake names, and not tell anyone about it for years. That's a red flag right there.
And, it is the SSPV Baumberger and Greenwell (as well as the others)who have declared themselves fit authorities to deny sacraments to baptized Catholics.