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Dialogue Mass/leading the choir in singing
« on: January 02, 2019, 01:25:25 PM »
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  • Would you find it distracting if someone were to "conduct" the congregation from the altar rail with his back toward the altar during sung parts of the Mass? Especially since there is a choir loft/choir to begin with?

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    Re: Dialogue Mass/leading the choir in singing
    « Reply #1 on: January 02, 2019, 01:33:15 PM »
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  • Would you find it distracting if someone were to "conduct" the congregation from the altar rail with his back toward the altar during sung parts of the Mass? Especially since there is a choir loft/choir to begin with?
    Yes, it would be distracting because it is not part of the Mass, add to that, it is wholly unnecessary. Dumb idea.


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    « Reply #2 on: January 02, 2019, 01:42:34 PM »
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  • thats what the SSPX is doing now

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    « Reply #3 on: January 02, 2019, 01:45:01 PM »
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  • Wow, maybe the 1965/hybrid Mass really is coming?

    Where is this??

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    « Reply #4 on: January 02, 2019, 01:45:45 PM »
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  • Sanford, FL. 


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    Re: Dialogue Mass/leading the choir in singing
    « Reply #5 on: January 02, 2019, 01:50:07 PM »
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  • Sanford, FL.
    Didn’t the SSPX just receive that Church after the Fr Roberts fiasco?  Sure didn’t take long for change to arrive there!

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    Re: Dialogue Mass/leading the choir in singing
    « Reply #6 on: January 02, 2019, 01:58:15 PM »
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  • Not only is it distracting, but it also doesn't make any sense. 

    Your average non-musically trained person (and even those who are -- Gregorian chant is rarely taught in universities) couldn't follow the conducting of Gregorian chant.

    The example from Sanford, FL is asinine. The director belongs in the choir loft and should only be near the altar during Mass if they are receiving Holy Communion. Maybe this is what they do in France, because many of the Society's priests are French, but a country where only 10% of Catholics were bothering to attend Mass even before the Council is not a country to emulate.
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    Re: Dialogue Mass/leading the choir in singing
    « Reply #7 on: January 02, 2019, 02:02:47 PM »
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  • The new Society is preparing you for”active” participation.


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    Re: Dialogue Mass/leading the choir in singing
    « Reply #8 on: January 02, 2019, 02:05:05 PM »
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  • Didn’t the SSPX just receive that Church after the Fr Roberts fiasco?  Sure didn’t take long for change to arrive there!
    That was Jacksonville, FL

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  • Sanford, FL SPX music conductor facing the people

    I was in the Orlando area yesterday and I  attended that SSPX mass in Sanford Florida for the Feast of the Circumcision (I am not the same person as the OP of this thread).  Close up, at ground level it looked much worse than the ceiling level camera image shows looking down on the altar in the video, since it focuses only on the altar. If it wasn’t a Tridentine Mass, it would have been a laughing matter, I was embarrassed for the conductor, he made a fool out of himself. They had a music conductor facing the people by the gate to the altar waving his hands around leading the people in singing and singing himself the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Sanctus, and the Agnus Dei. It was totally Novus Ordo, super effeminate (to say the least), and very distracting, it completely stole the mass from the priest. The Holy Sacrifice of the mass was secondary focus going on behind the conductor (music minister?) during practically the whole mass. The consecration occurred 3 seconds after he sat in his seat.

    I do not know whose idea it was to do this, whether it was the prior’s or the music conductor’s idea, but it is a really bad idea, a total Novus Ordo novelty. It was almost impossible to focus on the mass. It was like a Protestant assembly where all the people can do is sing.

    The church has a choir loft upstairs and a choir that was singing, the conductor has no business being in the front of the sanctuary “stealing the show”.  It was totally Novus Ordo and effeminate. Why effeminate? It was effeminate because you have a man waving his hands effeminately (to say the least) wanting to be the center of attention.  This is one step away from having the priest steal the show from God by facing the people in mass as they do in the Novus Ordo. It was very distracting and disconcerting. I felt embarrassed for the conductor; he made a fool out of himself up there.

    I would humbly suggest that they ditch the novelty.

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    Re: Dialogue Mass/leading the choir in singing
    « Reply #10 on: January 02, 2019, 02:12:10 PM »
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  • thats what the SSPX is doing now
    Dumb. Far as that goes, the guy could do that from the choir loft for all the good it does - which is none. If they did that at my chapel, I would say something to the prior.
    When I look at the altar during Mass, it's not to look at some joker waving his hands as if he was pretending he's directing a symphony. :facepalm:


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    Re: Dialogue Mass/leading the choir in singing
    « Reply #11 on: January 02, 2019, 02:13:41 PM »
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  • Dumb. Far as that goes, the guy could do that from the choir loft for all the good it does - which is none. If they did that at my chapel, I would say something to the prior.
    When I look at the altar during Mass, it's not to look at some joker waving his hands as if he was pretending he's directing a symphony. :facepalm:
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    Re: Dialogue Mass/leading the choir in singing
    « Reply #12 on: January 02, 2019, 02:33:32 PM »
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    Exactly.  Having everyone stand during the canon is bad news.  This is the holiest part of the mass!

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    « Reply #13 on: January 02, 2019, 02:50:59 PM »
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  • Yes, that does look super gay!  Who is the priest/prior?  And yes, they are getting you ready for Rome and the hybrid Mass.

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    « Reply #14 on: January 02, 2019, 02:52:28 PM »
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  • The sspx can now count itself among the liberal liturgical experimenters.  

     

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