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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2022, 11:08:16 PM »
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  • Let's not forget...

    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/zelensky-is-a-fag/

    And let's not forget that Zelensky is a Jew also, put into office and controlled by Jews Soros and Kolomoisky.

    Offline dxcat40

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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #16 on: November 15, 2022, 11:31:53 PM »
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  • Lad, it may not be clear, but the topic name actually came from the first article I posted. Rather than read my posts, it would seem as if you made some huge assumptions here. No one knows who did it. Zelenskyy would certainly like people to believe Russia did, but NATO isn't going for it so far and no real proof has yet been made available.

    Just so it is more clear, if I post more of these I will try to use a different title to help keep everyone on track.


    Offline dxcat40

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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #17 on: November 15, 2022, 11:41:37 PM »
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  • Yep.  Even Biden said it’s unlikely that it came from Russia.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, dxcat ... ever ready to pin stuff on Russia with zero evidence.

    Pathetic.
    Ah, dxcat won’t let actual logic stand in his way of demonizing Russia.

    Zero cui bono here for anyone except possibly Zelensky.
    Ready for your retractions on these when you recognize I never argued for whodunit. Considering FTX, the last sentence looks likely, but---unless it was an accident---made deliberately ambiguous in order to keep the money flowing.

    I was hoping someone would post more on the missile fragment angle of the story, but it seems inconclusive from what I've seen.

    Offline Miser Peccator

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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #18 on: November 15, 2022, 11:46:57 PM »
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  • And let's not forget that Zelensky is a Jєω also, put into office and controlled by Jєωs Soros and Kolomoisky.

    Yes true.  So is the other side. 

    Did you see all of the information Mark79 shared in these two posts?

    There is a great deal of extensive research on Putin:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg854875/#msg854875

    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg854876/#msg854876



    He did an amazing job compiling all of that!

    And people should know that Trump and Putin 

    are slated to rebuild the Third Temple in Jerusalem:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/trump-and-putin-slated-to-build-third-temple/msg854956/#msg854956









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    Offline Drolo

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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #19 on: November 16, 2022, 10:25:44 AM »
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  • If it was a fαℓѕє fℓαg USA they would be taking advantage of it to escalate, but it is the opposite, even Biden denies the Russian attack theory.

    On the other hand, I don't see what Russia would gain with it. Russia is screwed in Ukraine and losing more and more territory, the last thing they needs is to anger the Poles and the Poles send a division of volunteers under the Ukrainian flag.

    So I think it was an accident. Probably a Ukrainian missile defense launched against a Russian missile, as Ukraine Weapons Tracker says.


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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #20 on: November 16, 2022, 11:23:01 AM »
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  • Probably a Ukrainian missile defense launched against a Russian missile, as Ukraine Weapons Tracker says.
    Agreed. It seems more likely that Zelenskyy and others would be more cautious if they were behind it, but they are shouting from the rooftops. NATO and Russia are backing straight out of it. The amount of coverage it instantly received is curious, but perhaps that shows this wasn't the fαℓѕє fℓαg they were expecting.

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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #21 on: November 17, 2022, 09:53:29 AM »
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  • So I think it was an accident. Probably a Ukrainian missile defense launched against a Russian missile, as Ukraine Weapons Tracker says.
    Looking official:

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    NATO member Poland and the head of the military alliance both said Wednesday that a missile strike in Polish farmland that killed two people appeared to be unintentional and was probably launched by air defenses in neighboring Ukraine. Russia had been bombarding Ukraine at the time in an attack that savaged its power grid.

    “Ukraine’s defense was launching their missiles in various directions, and it is highly probable that one of these missiles unfortunately fell on Polish territory,” said Polish President Andrzej Duda. “There is nothing, absolutely nothing, to suggest that it was an intentional attack on Poland.”

    NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg, at a meeting of the 30-nation military alliance in Brussels, echoed the preliminary Polish findings. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, however, disputed them and asked for further investigation.

    The assessments of Tuesday’s deadly missile landing appeared to dial back the likelihood of the strike triggering another major escalation in the nearly 9-month-old Russian invasion of Ukraine. If Russia had targeted Poland, that could have risked drawing NATO into the conflict.

    Still, Stoltenberg and others laid overall but not specific blame on Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war.

    “This is not Ukraine’s fault. Russia bears ultimate responsibility,” Stoltenberg said.

    Zelenskyy told reporters he had “no doubts” about a report he received from his top commanders “that it wasn’t our missile or our missile strike.” Ukrainian officials should have access to the site and take part in the investigation, he added.

    “Let’s say openly, if, God forbid, some remnant (of Ukraine’s air-defenses) killed a person, these people, then we need to apologize,” he said. “But first there needs to be a probe, access — we want to get the data you have.”

    On Tuesday, he called the strike “a very significant escalation.”

    Before the Polish and NATO assessments, U.S. President Joe Biden had said it was “unlikely” that Russia fired the missile but added: “I’m going to make sure we find out exactly what happened.”

    A Russian Defense Ministry spokesman in Moscow said no Russian strike Tuesday was closer than 35 kilometers (22 miles) from the Ukraine-Poland border. The Kremlin denounced Poland’s and other countries’ initial response and, in rare praise for a U.S. leader, hailed Biden’s “restrained, much more professional reaction.”

    “We have witnessed another hysterical, frenzied, Russo-phobic reaction that was not based on any real data,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

    Later Wednesday, Russia’s Foreign Ministry summoned the Polish ambassador in Moscow; the discussion reportedly lasted about 20 minutes.

    The Polish president said the missile was probably a Russian-made S-300 dating from the Soviet era. Ukraine, once part of the Soviet Union, fields Soviet- and Russian-made weaponry and has also seized many more Russian weapons while beating back the Kremlin’s invasion forces.

    Russia’s assault on power generation and transmission facilities Tuesday included Ukraine’s western region bordering Poland. Ukraine’s military said 77 of the more than 90 missiles fired were brought down by air defenses, along with 11 drones.

    The countrywide bombardment by cruise missiles and exploding drones clouded the initial picture of what happened in Poland.

    “It was a huge blast, the sound was terrifying.” said Ewa Byra, the primary school director in the eastern village of Przewodow, where the missile struck. She said she knew both men who were killed — one was the husband of a school employee, the other the father of a former pupil.

    Another resident, 24-year-old Kinga Kancir, said the men worked at a grain-drying facility.

    “It is very hard to accept,” she said. “Nothing was going on and, all of a sudden, there is a world sensation.”

    In Europe, NATO members called for a thorough investigation and criticized Moscow.

    “This wouldn’t have happened without the Russian war against Ukraine, without the missiles that are now being fired at Ukrainian infrastructure intensively and on a large scale,” said German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

    Swaths of Ukraine were without power after the aerial assault. Zelenskyy said about 10 million people lost electricity, but tweeted overnight that 8 million were subsequently reconnected. Previous strikes had already destroyed an estimated 40% of the country’s energy infrastructure.

    Ukraine said the bombardment was the largest on its power grid so far.

    A Washington-based think tank, the Institute for the Study of War, said Ukraine’s downing of so many Russian missiles Tuesday “illustrates the improvement in Ukrainian air defenses in the last month,” which are being bolstered with Western-supplied systems. Sweden said Wednesday that an air defense system with ammunition would form part of its latest and largest package of military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine, worth $360 million.

    The U.S. has been Ukraine’s largest supporter, providing $18.6 billion in weapons and equipment. U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said the flow of weapons and assistance would continue “throughout the winter so that Ukraine can continue to consolidate gains and seize the initiative on the battlefield.”

    Army Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he tried to speak to his Russian counterpart Wednesday, but those efforts were not successful. Milley didn’t elaborate on the efforts, but the lack of a conversation, at a time when there were questions about whether Russia had struck a NATO ally, raises concerns about high-level U.S.-Russian communications in a crisis.

    At the United Nations, the organization’s political chief said the missile strike in Poland was “a frightening reminder” of the need to prevent any more escalation of the war.

    As long as the fighting continues, Rosemary DiCarlo warned the U.N. Security Council, “the risks of potentially catastrophic spillover remain all too real.”

    The Russian attacks followed days of euphoria in Ukraine sparked by one of its biggest military successes — the retaking last week of the southern city of Kherson.

    With its battlefield losses mounting, Russia has increasingly resorted to targeting Ukraine’s power grid as winter approaches.

    Russian attacks in the previous 24 hours killed at least six civilians and wounded another 17, a senior official, Kyrylo Tymoshenko, said Wednesday.

    Lviv Gov. Maksym Kozytskyy said two of three Russian missiles hit critical energy infrastructure in the western province. Power was restored to about 95% of the province, he said, but only 30% of consumers can use electricity at the same time.

    Power shortages caused extensive train delays extending into Wednesday, but there were no cancellations because diesel locomotives were pressed into service, rail officials said.

    Kyiv resident Margina Daria said Tuesday’s strikes knocked out cellphone service in her area.

    “We have already adapted to life without light, because we have scheduled outages every day, but without communication it was quite disturbing,” she said. “There was no way to even tell our families that we were OK.”

    Source: AP News (link)

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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #22 on: November 17, 2022, 10:03:58 AM »
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  • Has Zelensky admitted to it yet?


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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #23 on: November 17, 2022, 05:03:44 PM »
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  • NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said on Wednesday that a deadly explosion in Poland was probably the result of Ukrainian anti-aircraft fire, but that Russia bears “ultimate responsibility” since Moscow is behind the war.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/11/16/ukraine-allies-say-kyiv-behind-strike-on-poland-but-blame-russia

    So, it's always "Russia's fault"?
    Even when the NWO Soros puppet-state fired it?
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #24 on: November 18, 2022, 07:19:52 AM »
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  • You are taking the narrative too seriously. Ukraine isn't a "NWO Soros puppet-state." Soros is just an employee and ultimately doesn't matter, but serves a role similar to the villain in a pro-Wrestling storyline for conspiracists. Ukraine and Russia are both working towards global governance, but the two represent different teams set up for this purpose. Russia's Eastern NWO is no better than Ukraine's Western NWO, but real Russians and Ukrainians are being killed to fulfill their purpose. The end result will be Convergence into the final product, so rooting for one side or the other is like believing that pro-Wrestling storylines are real.

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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #25 on: November 18, 2022, 09:40:48 AM »
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  • Ret. Col. Doug MacGregor weighs in on the Poland/Ukraine situation:

    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29