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Title: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: dxcat40 on November 15, 2022, 02:06:20 PM
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A Russian missile barrage on the Ukrainian power grid sent the war spilling over into neighboring countries Tuesday, hitting NATO member Poland and cutting electricity to much of Moldova.

The strikes plunged much of Ukraine into darkness and drew defiance from President Volodymr Zelenskyy, who shook his fist and declared: “We will survive everything.”

It was Russia’s biggest barrage yet, and some of the missiles crossed into Poland, where two people were killed, according to a U.S. official. It marked the first time in the war that Russian weapons have come down on a NATO country.

Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller did not immediately confirm the information from a senior U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the situation.

A second person confirmed that apparent Russian missiles struck a site in Poland about 15 miles from the Ukrainian border.

But Mueller said top leaders were holding an emergency meeting due to a “crisis situation.”

Polish media reported that two people died Tuesday afternoon after a projectile struck an area where grain was drying in Przewodów, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine.

Neighboring Moldova was also affected. It reported massive power outages after the strikes knocked out a key power line that supplies the small nation, an official said.

Zelenskyy said Russia fired at least 85 missiles, most of them aimed at the country’s power facilities, and blacked out many cities.

“We’re working, will restore everything. We will survive everything,” the president vowed. His energy minister said the attack was “the most massive” bombardment of power facilities in the nearly 9-month-old Russian invasion, striking both power generation and transmission systems.

The minister, Herman Haluschenko, described the missile strikes as “another attempt at terrorist revenge” after military and diplomatic setbacks for the Kremlin. He accused Russia of “trying to cause maximum damage to our energy system on the eve of winter.”

The aerial assault, which resulted in at least one death in a residential building in the capital, Kyiv, followed days of euphoria in Ukraine sparked by one of its biggest military successes — the retaking last week of the southern city of Kherson.

Areas of control in Ukraine

(https://i.imgur.com/hy0kcTj.png)

The power grid was already battered by previous attacks that destroyed an estimated 40% of the country’s energy infrastructure.

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Russian President Vladimir Putin has not commented on the retreat from Kherson since his troops pulled out in the face of a Ukrainian offensive. But the stunning scale of Tuesday’s strikes spoke volumes and hinted at anger in the Kremlin.

By striking targets in the late afternoon, not long before dusk began to fall, the Russian military forced rescue workers to labor in the dark and gave repair crews scant time to assess the damage by daylight.

More than a dozen regions — among them Lviv in the west, Kharkiv in the northeast and others in between — reported strikes or efforts by their air defenses to shoot missiles down. At least a dozen regions reported power outages, affecting cities that together have millions of people. Almost half of the Kyiv region lost power, authorities said. Ukrainian Railways announced nationwide train delays.

Zelenskyy warned that more strikes were possible and urged people to stay safe and seek shelter.

“Most of the hits were recorded in the center and in the north of the country. In the capital, the situation is very difficult,” said a senior official, Kyrylo Tymoshenko.

He said a total of 15 energy targets were damaged and claimed that 70 missiles were shot down. A Ukrainian Air Force spokesman said Russia used X-101 and X-555 cruise missiles.

As city after city reported attacks, Tymoshenko urged Ukrainians to “hang in there.”

With its battlefield losses mounting, Russia has increasingly resorted to targeting Ukraine’s power grid, seemingly hoping to turn the approach of winter into a weapon by leaving people in the cold and dark.

In Kyiv, Mayor Vitali Klitschko said authorities found a body in one of three residential buildings that were struck in the capital, where emergency blackouts were also announced by power provider DTEK.

Video published by a presidential aide showed a five-story, apparently residential building in Kyiv on fire, with flames licking through apartments. Klitschko said air defense units also shot down some missiles.

Dutch Foreign Minister Wopke Hoekstra took to a bomb shelter in Kyiv after meeting his Ukrainian counterpart and, from his place of safety, described the bombardment as “an enormous motivation to keep standing shoulder-to-shoulder” with Ukraine.

“There can be only one answer, and that is: Keep going. Keep supporting Ukraine, keep delivering weapons, keep working on accountability, keep working on humanitarian aid,” he said.

Ukraine had seen a period of comparative calm since previous waves of drone and missile attacks several weeks ago.

The strikes came as authorities were already working furiously to get Kherson back on its feet and beginning to investigate alleged Russian abuses there and in the surrounding area.

The southern city is without power and water, and the head of the U.N. human rights office’s monitoring mission in Ukraine, Matilda Bogner, on Tuesday decried a “dire humanitarian situation” there.

Speaking from Kyiv, Bogner said her teams are looking to travel to Kherson to try to verify allegations of nearly 80 cases of forced disappearances and arbitrary detention.

The head of the National Police of Ukraine, Igor Klymenko, said authorities are to start investigating reports from Kherson residents that Russian forces set up at least three alleged torture sites in now-liberated parts of the wider Kherson region and that “our people may have been detained and tortured there.”

The retaking of Kherson dealt another stinging blow to the Kremlin. Zelenskyy likened the recapture to the Allied landings in France on D-Day in World War II, saying both were watershed events on the road to eventual victory.

But large parts of eastern and southern Ukraine remain under Russian control, and fighting continues.

Zelenskyy warned of possible more grim news ahead.

“Everywhere, when we liberate our land, we see one thing — Russia leaves behind torture chambers and mass burials. … How many mass graves are there in the territory that still remains under the control of Russia?” Zelenskyy asked.
Source: AP News (link (https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52))
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: dxcat40 on November 15, 2022, 02:13:43 PM

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Polish premier calls urgent meeting of national security committee

Polish prime minister has called an urgent meeting of a committee for national security and defense affairs, the government spokesman said on twitter on Tuesday.

The committee, which consists of heads of defense, interior, justice and foreign affairs ministries as well as coordinator of intelligence services, is a body that prepares and coordinates decisions on national security and defense.

Cabinet spokesman Piotr Muller was not immediately available for a comment. His tweet did not mention what the committee was due to discuss.
Source: Reuters (link (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/polish-premier-calls-urgent-meeting-national-security-committee-2022-11-15/))
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: dxcat40 on November 15, 2022, 02:16:40 PM

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Explosion kills two in Poland near Ukraine border

Two people were killed in an explosion in Przewodow, a village in eastern Poland near the border with Ukraine, firefighters said on Tuesday.

The Associated Press cited a senior U.S. intelligence official as saying the blast was due to Russian missiles crossing into Poland.

However, the Pentagon said on Tuesday it could not confirm reports that Russian missiles had crossed into Poland.

"Firefighters are on the spot, it's not clear what has happened," said Lukasz Kucy, officer on duty at a nearby firefighters' post.

Polish Radio ZET reported earlier that two stray missiles hit Przewodow on Tuesday, killing two people, without giving any more details.

Latvian Deputy Prime Minister Artis Pabriks sent condolences to Poland in a tweet.

"Criminal Russian regime fired missiles which target not only Ukrainian civilians but also landed on NATO territory in Poland," he wrote. "Latvia fully stands with Polish friends and condemns this crime."

Russia was pounding cities across Ukraine with missiles on Tuesday, in attacks that Kyiv said were the heaviest wave of missile strikes in nearly nine months of war. Some hit Lviv, which is less than 80 km (50 miles) from the border with Poland.

Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has called an urgent meeting of a government committee for national security and defence affairs, government spokesman Piotr Muller said on Twitter.

A government security spokesman and a representative of the prime minister's office declined to comment further.

State-run news agency PAP reported that the Polish government would hold a meeting at 2000 GMT.

Muller told reporters later on Tuesday that the committee was convened due to the "crisis situation", adding that relevant information will be presented to the public later. He called on media not to publish "unverified information" in the meantime.
Source: Reuters (link (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/explosion-kills-two-poland-near-ukraine-border-2022-11-15/))
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: dxcat40 on November 15, 2022, 02:18:30 PM
Interestingly, someone already threw up a Wikipedia page on this event:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_missile_strike_on_Poland (or click here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_missile_strike_on_Poland))
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: dxcat40 on November 15, 2022, 02:20:44 PM
Maybe fake, but supposedly a video of the aftermath:

https://www.reddit.com/r/poland/comments/yw7h8m/watch_first_video_from_the_scene_in_poland_where/ (or click here (https://www.reddit.com/r/poland/comments/yw7h8m/watch_first_video_from_the_scene_in_poland_where/))

Some people claiming it's a Ukrainian missile:

https://twitter.com/jakegodin/status/1592590754630991872?s=46&t=1GYGOy4TWMtxUyg2rnmL5 (or click here (https://twitter.com/jakegodin/status/1592590754630991872?s=46&t=1GYGOy4TWMtxUyg2rnmL5))
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: Drolo on November 15, 2022, 03:52:09 PM
https://tvn24.pl/polska/rosyjskie-rakiety-spadly-na-terytorium-polski-zabijajac-dwie-osoby-podaje-agencja-ap-6221491


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Pentagon spokesman General Patrick Ryder was asked at a briefing about reports on Poland. “We are currently aware of press releases on this. We do not currently have any information to confirm these reports. We take it seriously. I guarantee that we will provide any updated information as soon as it becomes available,” he said.
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Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: richard on November 15, 2022, 05:46:54 PM
I have read that it was a Ukranian air defense missile that missed it's target and landed in Poland. It doesn't make sense for Russia to strike Poland with just one missile, if they were going to strike it would be with a swarm.
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: shimano on November 15, 2022, 06:28:21 PM
Globo Homo Shlomo Pro
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: dxcat40 on November 15, 2022, 07:31:19 PM
It seems like all of this has been happening too quickly and with too much coordination. (Maybe they want to ensure the trough continues to get filled?) There's too much information for me to possibly cover, so if anything else is following feel free to add onto what's here.
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: dxcat40 on November 15, 2022, 07:35:10 PM


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Russia denies striking Poland with missiles


Moscow insists a reported explosion near the Ukrainian border is not related to its military operation

Russia has not carried out any strikes against targets near the Polish-Ukrainian border, the defense ministry in Moscow said on Tuesday, following reports of a missile striking the village of Przewodow and killing two civilians.

Some Western media outlets and politicians have claimed that Russia is responsible for the incident. However, no evidence has been provided to support such assertions.

Missile fragments, photos of which were published by Polish media outlets on the scene, “have nothing to do with Russian weapons,” the Russian Defense Ministry said.

Statements by the Polish media and officials about the alleged ‘Russian’ missiles falling in the area of the village of Przewodow are “a deliberate provocation in order to escalate the situation,” the Russian military added.

Poland convened an emergency meeting of its national security council on Tuesday evening, after reports that at least two civilians were killed when one or more missiles struck the village in the Lublin region, just across the border with Ukraine.

While the AP reported that Russian missiles had crossed into Poland, citing an unnamed “senior US intelligence official,” the Pentagon declined to corroborate the claim.

“I can tell you that we don't have any information at this time to corroborate those reports and are looking into this further,” Air Force Brigadier General Patrick Ryder told reporters, when asked about the Przewodow incident.

Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller called on the media and the public “not to publish unconfirmed information.”

Officials from the Baltic states blamed Russia and claimed that Poland should invoke NATO’s Article 5 in retaliation. Meanwhile, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky accused Russia of “terrorism” and said NATO needed to “act” against this “attack on collective security.”
Source: RT (link (https://www.rt.com/russia/566589-russia-no-strikes-on-poland/))


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NATO, leaders to meet as Poland says Russian-made rocket kills two

NATO and global leaders will meet on Wednesday after a Russian-made rocket fell on NATO member Poland and killed two people, raising concerns that the Ukraine conflict could spill over its borders.

Russia denied it was responsible. The Polish foreign ministry said the rocket fell on Tuesday at 3:40 p.m. on Przewodow, a village in eastern Poland about 6 kilometres (3-1/2 miles) from the border with Ukraine.

A resident who declined to be identified said the two victims were men who were near the weighing area of a grain facility.

The ministry's statement was Poland's most detailed comment thus far. The United States and Western allies had said they were investigating but could not confirm a report that stray Russian missiles landed at the village.

Members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) are committed to collective defence under its Article 5, so a Russian strike on Poland could risk widening the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, which began with Moscow's invasion in February.

Two European diplomats said Poland requested the NATO meeting under the treaty's Article 4 for consultations among the allies. Poland was also increasing the readiness of some military units, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said.

At the Group of 20 (G20) leaders' gathering in Indonesia, a White House official said U.S. President Joe Biden has convened a meeting of leaders on the explosion and loss of life in eastern Poland.

Polish officials sought to avoid inflaming the situation. Morawiecki called on all Poles to remain calm, and President Andrzej Duda said there was no concrete evidence showing who fired the missile. He said the government was acting very calmly and that it was a one-off incident.

A NATO official said the alliance was closely coordinating with Poland.

Biden told Duda in a call that Washington has an "ironclad commitment to NATO" and will support Poland's investigation, the White House said.

The Associated Press earlier cited a senior U.S. intelligence official as saying the blast was due to Russian missiles having crossed into Poland.

But in Washington, the Pentagon, White House and U.S. State Department said they could not corroborate the report and were working with the Polish government to gather more information. The State Department said the report was "incredibly concerning."

Germany and Canada said they were monitoring the situation, and the European Union, the Netherlands and Norway said they were seeking more details. French President Emmanuel Macron ordered a verification effort, while Britain was "urgently" looking into the report.

RUSSIAN DENIAL

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Russian missiles hit Poland in a "significant escalation" of the conflict. He did not provide evidence.

Russia's defence ministry denied that Russian missiles hit Polish territory, describing reports as "a deliberate provocation aimed at escalating the situation".

It added in a statement: "No strikes on targets near the Ukrainian-Polish state border were made by Russian means of destruction."

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said he had no information on an explosion in Poland.

Russia pounded cities across Ukraine with missiles on Tuesday, in attacks that Kyiv said were the heaviest wave of missile strikes in nearly nine months of war. Some hit Lviv, which is less than 80 km (50 miles) from the border with Poland.

Fabrice Pothier, former head of policy planning in the NATO secretary-general's office, told Sky TV that in a NATO meeting officials would "consult each other, to assess the threat and to take concrete action."

Latvian Deputy Prime Minister Artis Pabriks said the situation was "unacceptable" and it could lead to NATO providing more anti-aircraft defences to Poland and Ukraine, a view Pothier endorsed.

"Every inch of #NATO territory must be defended!," Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda said on Twitter.
Source: Reuters (link (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-hails-chinas-opposition-nuclear-threats-2022-11-15/))

NATO investigating, Zelenskyy escalating, and Russia denying. More on Wednesday tomorrow.

Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: 2Vermont on November 15, 2022, 07:42:16 PM
I'm sure we'll get the truth eventually, right? ::)
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: Ladislaus on November 15, 2022, 09:54:25 PM
I have read that it was a Ukranian air defense missile that missed it's target and landed in Poland. It doesn't make sense for Russia to strike Poland with just one missile, if they were going to strike it would be with a swarm.

Yep.  Even Biden said it’s unlikely that it came from Russia.

Sorry to burst your bubble, dxcat ... ever ready to pin stuff on Russia with zero evidence.

Pathetic.


Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: Ladislaus on November 15, 2022, 09:55:17 PM
Globo Homo Shlomo Pro

:laugh1:
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: Ladislaus on November 15, 2022, 09:57:21 PM
I have read that it was a Ukranian air defense missile that missed it's target and landed in Poland. It doesn't make sense for Russia to strike Poland with just one missile, if they were going to strike it would be with a swarm.

Ah, dxcat won’t let actual logic stand in his way of demonizing Russia.

Zero cui bono here for anyone except possibly Zelensky.
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: Matthew on November 15, 2022, 10:30:26 PM
Let's not forget...

https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/zelensky-is-a-fag/
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: Ladislaus on November 15, 2022, 11:08:16 PM
Let's not forget...

https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/zelensky-is-a-fag/

And let's not forget that Zelensky is a Jew also, put into office and controlled by Jews Soros and Kolomoisky.
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: dxcat40 on November 15, 2022, 11:31:53 PM
Lad, it may not be clear, but the topic name actually came from the first article I posted. Rather than read my posts, it would seem as if you made some huge assumptions here. No one knows who did it. Zelenskyy would certainly like people to believe Russia did, but NATO isn't going for it so far and no real proof has yet been made available.

Just so it is more clear, if I post more of these I will try to use a different title to help keep everyone on track.
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: dxcat40 on November 15, 2022, 11:41:37 PM
Yep.  Even Biden said it’s unlikely that it came from Russia.

Sorry to burst your bubble, dxcat ... ever ready to pin stuff on Russia with zero evidence.

Pathetic.
Ah, dxcat won’t let actual logic stand in his way of demonizing Russia.

Zero cui bono here for anyone except possibly Zelensky.
Ready for your retractions on these when you recognize I never argued for whodunit. Considering FTX, the last sentence looks likely, but---unless it was an accident---made deliberately ambiguous in order to keep the money flowing.

I was hoping someone would post more on the missile fragment angle of the story, but it seems inconclusive from what I've seen.
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: Miser Peccator on November 15, 2022, 11:46:57 PM
And let's not forget that Zelensky is a Jєω also, put into office and controlled by Jєωs Soros and Kolomoisky.

Yes true.  So is the other side. 

Did you see all of the information Mark79 shared in these two posts?

There is a great deal of extensive research on Putin:

https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg854875/#msg854875 (https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg854875/#msg854875)

https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg854876/#msg854876



 (https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg854876/#msg854876)He did an amazing job compiling all of that!

And people should know that Trump and Putin 

are slated to rebuild the Third Temple in Jerusalem:

https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/trump-and-putin-slated-to-build-third-temple/msg854956/#msg854956

 (https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/trump-and-putin-slated-to-build-third-temple/msg854956/#msg854956)







Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: Drolo on November 16, 2022, 10:25:44 AM
If it was a fαℓѕє fℓαg USA they would be taking advantage of it to escalate, but it is the opposite, even Biden denies the Russian attack theory.

On the other hand, I don't see what Russia would gain with it. Russia is screwed in Ukraine and losing more and more territory, the last thing they needs is to anger the Poles and the Poles send a division of volunteers under the Ukrainian flag.

So I think it was an accident. Probably a Ukrainian missile defense launched against a Russian missile, as Ukraine Weapons Tracker says.
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: dxcat40 on November 16, 2022, 11:23:01 AM
Probably a Ukrainian missile defense launched against a Russian missile, as Ukraine Weapons Tracker says.
Agreed. It seems more likely that Zelenskyy and others would be more cautious if they were behind it, but they are shouting from the rooftops. NATO and Russia are backing straight out of it. The amount of coverage it instantly received is curious, but perhaps that shows this wasn't the fαℓѕє fℓαg they were expecting.
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: dxcat40 on November 17, 2022, 09:53:29 AM
So I think it was an accident. Probably a Ukrainian missile defense launched against a Russian missile, as Ukraine Weapons Tracker says.
Looking official:

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NATO member Poland and the head of the military alliance both said Wednesday that a missile strike in Polish farmland that killed two people appeared to be unintentional and was probably launched by air defenses in neighboring Ukraine. Russia had been bombarding Ukraine at the time in an attack that savaged its power grid.

“Ukraine’s defense was launching their missiles in various directions, and it is highly probable that one of these missiles unfortunately fell on Polish territory,” said Polish President Andrzej Duda. “There is nothing, absolutely nothing, to suggest that it was an intentional attack on Poland.”

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg, at a meeting of the 30-nation military alliance in Brussels, echoed the preliminary Polish findings. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, however, disputed them and asked for further investigation.

The assessments of Tuesday’s deadly missile landing appeared to dial back the likelihood of the strike triggering another major escalation in the nearly 9-month-old Russian invasion of Ukraine. If Russia had targeted Poland, that could have risked drawing NATO into the conflict.

Still, Stoltenberg and others laid overall but not specific blame on Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war.

“This is not Ukraine’s fault. Russia bears ultimate responsibility,” Stoltenberg said.

Zelenskyy told reporters he had “no doubts” about a report he received from his top commanders “that it wasn’t our missile or our missile strike.” Ukrainian officials should have access to the site and take part in the investigation, he added.

“Let’s say openly, if, God forbid, some remnant (of Ukraine’s air-defenses) killed a person, these people, then we need to apologize,” he said. “But first there needs to be a probe, access — we want to get the data you have.”

On Tuesday, he called the strike “a very significant escalation.”

Before the Polish and NATO assessments, U.S. President Joe Biden had said it was “unlikely” that Russia fired the missile but added: “I’m going to make sure we find out exactly what happened.”

A Russian Defense Ministry spokesman in Moscow said no Russian strike Tuesday was closer than 35 kilometers (22 miles) from the Ukraine-Poland border. The Kremlin denounced Poland’s and other countries’ initial response and, in rare praise for a U.S. leader, hailed Biden’s “restrained, much more professional reaction.”

“We have witnessed another hysterical, frenzied, Russo-phobic reaction that was not based on any real data,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

Later Wednesday, Russia’s Foreign Ministry summoned the Polish ambassador in Moscow; the discussion reportedly lasted about 20 minutes.

The Polish president said the missile was probably a Russian-made S-300 dating from the Soviet era. Ukraine, once part of the Soviet Union, fields Soviet- and Russian-made weaponry and has also seized many more Russian weapons while beating back the Kremlin’s invasion forces.

Russia’s assault on power generation and transmission facilities Tuesday included Ukraine’s western region bordering Poland. Ukraine’s military said 77 of the more than 90 missiles fired were brought down by air defenses, along with 11 drones.

The countrywide bombardment by cruise missiles and exploding drones clouded the initial picture of what happened in Poland.

“It was a huge blast, the sound was terrifying.” said Ewa Byra, the primary school director in the eastern village of Przewodow, where the missile struck. She said she knew both men who were killed — one was the husband of a school employee, the other the father of a former pupil.

Another resident, 24-year-old Kinga Kancir, said the men worked at a grain-drying facility.

“It is very hard to accept,” she said. “Nothing was going on and, all of a sudden, there is a world sensation.”

In Europe, NATO members called for a thorough investigation and criticized Moscow.

“This wouldn’t have happened without the Russian war against Ukraine, without the missiles that are now being fired at Ukrainian infrastructure intensively and on a large scale,” said German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

Swaths of Ukraine were without power after the aerial assault. Zelenskyy said about 10 million people lost electricity, but tweeted overnight that 8 million were subsequently reconnected. Previous strikes had already destroyed an estimated 40% of the country’s energy infrastructure.

Ukraine said the bombardment was the largest on its power grid so far.

A Washington-based think tank, the Institute for the Study of War, said Ukraine’s downing of so many Russian missiles Tuesday “illustrates the improvement in Ukrainian air defenses in the last month,” which are being bolstered with Western-supplied systems. Sweden said Wednesday that an air defense system with ammunition would form part of its latest and largest package of military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine, worth $360 million.

The U.S. has been Ukraine’s largest supporter, providing $18.6 billion in weapons and equipment. U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said the flow of weapons and assistance would continue “throughout the winter so that Ukraine can continue to consolidate gains and seize the initiative on the battlefield.”

Army Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he tried to speak to his Russian counterpart Wednesday, but those efforts were not successful. Milley didn’t elaborate on the efforts, but the lack of a conversation, at a time when there were questions about whether Russia had struck a NATO ally, raises concerns about high-level U.S.-Russian communications in a crisis.

At the United Nations, the organization’s political chief said the missile strike in Poland was “a frightening reminder” of the need to prevent any more escalation of the war.

As long as the fighting continues, Rosemary DiCarlo warned the U.N. Security Council, “the risks of potentially catastrophic spillover remain all too real.”

The Russian attacks followed days of euphoria in Ukraine sparked by one of its biggest military successes — the retaking last week of the southern city of Kherson.

With its battlefield losses mounting, Russia has increasingly resorted to targeting Ukraine’s power grid as winter approaches.

Russian attacks in the previous 24 hours killed at least six civilians and wounded another 17, a senior official, Kyrylo Tymoshenko, said Wednesday.

Lviv Gov. Maksym Kozytskyy said two of three Russian missiles hit critical energy infrastructure in the western province. Power was restored to about 95% of the province, he said, but only 30% of consumers can use electricity at the same time.

Power shortages caused extensive train delays extending into Wednesday, but there were no cancellations because diesel locomotives were pressed into service, rail officials said.

Kyiv resident Margina Daria said Tuesday’s strikes knocked out cellphone service in her area.

“We have already adapted to life without light, because we have scheduled outages every day, but without communication it was quite disturbing,” she said. “There was no way to even tell our families that we were OK.”

Source: AP News (link (https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-g-20-summit-nato-biden-government-and-politics-c76bead57a11bc8397a30ee7bb06264e))
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: 2Vermont on November 17, 2022, 10:03:58 AM
Has Zelensky admitted to it yet?
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: Cera on November 17, 2022, 05:03:44 PM
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said on Wednesday that a deadly explosion in Poland was probably the result of Ukrainian anti-aircraft fire, but that Russia bears “ultimate responsibility” since Moscow is behind the war.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/11/16/ukraine-allies-say-kyiv-behind-strike-on-poland-but-blame-russia

So, it's always "Russia's fault"?
Even when the NWO Soros puppet-state fired it?
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: dxcat40 on November 18, 2022, 07:19:52 AM
You are taking the narrative too seriously. Ukraine isn't a "NWO Soros puppet-state." Soros is just an employee and ultimately doesn't matter, but serves a role similar to the villain in a pro-Wrestling storyline for conspiracists. Ukraine and Russia are both working towards global governance, but the two represent different teams set up for this purpose. Russia's Eastern NWO is no better than Ukraine's Western NWO, but real Russians and Ukrainians are being killed to fulfill their purpose. The end result will be Convergence into the final product, so rooting for one side or the other is like believing that pro-Wrestling storylines are real.
Title: Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
Post by: Meg on November 18, 2022, 09:40:48 AM
Ret. Col. Doug MacGregor weighs in on the Poland/Ukraine situation:

Poland WWIII scare shows why top US general wants peace (w/ Doug Macgregor) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obi849eRuN4)