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Russia shoots down 2 US ballistic missiles
« on: September 15, 2013, 12:30:53 AM »





From shamireader


Aggression was over the Moment those Two Missiles were Fired

A well informed diplomatic source told As-Safir newspaper that “the US war on Syria had started and ended the moment those two ballistic missiles were fired, leaving inconsistent information, as Israel denied and Russia confirmed, until an Israeli statement was issued indicating they were fired in the context of an Israeli-US joint drill and fell in the sea, and that they were not related to the Syrian crisis.”


The source further told the Lebanese daily that “the US forces fired these two rockets from a NATO base in Spain, and were instantly detected by the Russian radars and confronted by the Russian defense systems, so one of them exploded in the airspace and the second one diverted towards the sea.”

In this context, the source pointed out that “the statement issued by the Russian Defense Ministry, which stated the detection of two ballistic missiles fired towards the Middle East, intended to neglect two points: the first was the location from which the two rockets were fired, and the second was their downing. Why? Because the moment the full military operation was launched, Head of the Russian Intelligence Service contacted the US intelligence and informed it that “hitting Damascus means hitting Moscow, and we have removed the term “downed the two missiles” from the statement to preserve the bilateral relations and to avoid escalation. Therefore, you must immediately reconsider your policies, approaches and intentions on the Syrian crisis, as you must be certain that you cannot eliminate our presence in the Mediterranean.”

“This unannounced direct confrontation between Moscow and Washington increased the Obama Administration’s confusion and certainty that the Russian side was ready to move until the end with the Syrian cause, and that the US did not have a way out of its impasse except through a Russian initiative which would save America’s face…” he added.

From this point, the diplomatic source clarified that “in order to avoid further US confusion, and after Israel denied knowing anything about the rocket firing in its first statement, which is the truth, Washington demanded Tel Aviv to adopt the rocket firing to save its face in front of the International Community, especially since these two rockets were the beginning of the US aggression on Syria and the announcement of the beginning of military operations, after which US President Barack Obama was supposed to go to the G20 Summit in Russia to negotiate the destiny of Syrian President Bashr Al-Assad. However, he went to find a way out of the impasse he’s in.”

The source further indicated that “after the US-Russia rocket confrontation, Moscow intended to increase its number of military experts in Russia, and added to its military units and destroyers to enhance its military presence in the Mediterranean. It also set a time for announcing about its initiative on stopping the aggression on Syria after the G20 Summit, after drawing a side scene on the sidelines of the summit which was followed by two successive visits for Iranian Foreign Minister, Hussein Amir Abdul Lahyan, and Syrian Foreign Minister, Walid Al-Moallem, in which a way out was agreed on with the Russian side, and it included a Syrian announcement on approving the Russian initiative regarding putting Syrian chemical weapons under international supervision and preparing Syria for joining the non-proliferation treaty.

Finally, the source pointed out that “One of the first results of the US-Russian military confrontation was the British House of Commons’ rejection to participate in a war on Syria. This was followed by European stances, most significantly, the German stance announced by Chancellor Angela Merkel."





Israel's bitch has no teeth.

Source: http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=110043&cid=31&fromval=1&frid=31&seccatid=71&s1=1

Russia shoots down 2 US ballistic missiles
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2013, 03:29:11 AM »
If this is true it cannot be good. Maybe we need to start praying for the USA.
 :pray: :pray: :pray:


Russia shoots down 2 US ballistic missiles
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2013, 05:57:18 AM »
Sounds like a bunch of bull to me.  It is at least 2300 nautical miles from Spain to Syria.  Long range ballistic missiles (non orbital) travel at sub sonic speeds or the air resistance would require them to carry too much fuel.  At sub sonic speeds such missiles would take at least 3 hours to reach their target.  I am not sure that the US has any S2S missile with that range. By the time Russian ships in the eastern med detected anything it would be too late to do much about it.  Russia are nowhere near capable of intercepting a sub orbital rocket, ICBM not even close.  They might be able to take out a cruise missile in flight given enough warning, but I doubt that an atmospheric missile exists with a 2300 mile range.

This Russia Today report does not suggest Spain had anything to do with this incident


Russia shoots down 2 US ballistic missiles
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2013, 01:35:59 PM »
Quote from: ggreg
Sounds like a bunch of bull to me.  It is at least 2300 nautical miles from Spain to Syria.  Long range ballistic missiles (non orbital) travel at sub sonic speeds or the air resistance would require them to carry too much fuel.  At sub sonic speeds such missiles would take at least 3 hours to reach their target.  I am not sure that the US has any S2S missile with that range. By the time Russian ships in the eastern med detected anything it would be too late to do much about it.  Russia are nowhere near capable of intercepting a sub orbital rocket, ICBM not even close.  They might be able to take out a cruise missile in flight given enough warning, but I doubt that an atmospheric missile exists with a 2300 mile range.

This Russia Today report does not suggest Spain had anything to do with this incident




Oh, I see.  Russia doesn't have technology.  :thinking:

The missile story was reported in the UK press, but with the typical "Brit spin", claiming it was a "joint missile shoot down test".

A joint missile test conducted in the middle of an international showdown... I hope you don't believe that...



The Telegraph

Missiles launched in Mediterranean towards Syrian coast, claims Russian defence ministry

Russia has claimed that its missile early warning system has detected the launch of two missiles from the central part of the Mediterranean Sea fired towards the Sea's eastern coastline.


Roland Oliphant in Moscow
10:29AM BST 03 Sep 2013



The launches took place at 10:16 am Moscow time (0616 GMT) and were detected by the ballistic missile early warning system in Armavir in southern Russia, the defence ministry said in a statement quoted by Russian news agencies.

Shortly after 11am, Israel announced that it had carried out a joint missile test with the US in the Mediterranean, using a missile designed to shoot down incoming missiles.

Russia's state-owned RIA Novosti news agency said both missiles then crashed into the sea, citing a source in Damascus.

The Russian embassy in Syria said there was no sign of a missile attack or of explosions in Damascus. The Ministry of Defence in London confirmed that the missiles were not British.

In a sign of the tenions in the region, reports of missiles being fired had an instant effect on markets. The FTSE 100 fell as much as 0.8pc to 6,456.95 and the price of Brent crude, which has risen in recent days on Middle East concerns, spiked as much as 1.2pc to $115.74 a barrel this morning. It reached a six-month high of $117.34 on Wednesday.

Russia shoots down 2 US ballistic missiles
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2013, 02:10:33 PM »
Quote from: Incredulous
Oh, I see.  Russia doesn't have technology.  :thinking:


No, it doesn't.  It is extremely complex and difficult to shoot down an ICBM.

There are only two systems in the world that can intercept ICBMs. Besides them, many smaller systems exist (tactical ABMs), that generally cannot intercept intercontinental strategic missiles, even if within range.  An incoming ICBM simply moves too fast for these systems.

The Russian A-35 anti-ballistic missile system, for defence of Moscow, is called A-135 and uses Gorgon and Gazelle missiles with nuclear warheads.  It is NOT deployed on any Russian naval vessel.

The article you opened with does not claim the missiles came from Spain, nor indeed that the Russians claim to have shot them down.  If the Russians had shot down a long range ballistic missile, the only known technology for them to have done this would be a nuclear explosion in the stratosphere, so powerful that it can disrupt and disable (some of the time) a missile travelling at 18,000 miles per hour or about 5 miles every second, hence the need for a nuclear blast to take it out of action, because you cannot get close enough to hit it with anything kinetic or conventional.

I think that a nuclear blast in space or the endoatmosphere would have been noticed by more than a few people on the ground.

Either start using your brain and the known science and technology which would support or disprove these "news" stories to judge their veracity or change your username to credulous.

Something is not "true" simply because it fits your myopic view of the world.