Author Topic: Viva il Papa! (Read 1640 times)

moneil · « **Reply #11 on:** June 10, 2023, 04:55:14 PM »

I would guess that this is staged, perhaps even with a double serving as Pope Pius XII. While color film was first available in 1935 (I was surprised when I looked it up, I would have guessed much later), black and white was still the norm for docuмentaries into the 1960's.

Here is a more authentic film clip (I appologize for not knowing how to more directly provide a YouTube link).

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=68e8da573dab9f98JmltdHM9MTY4NjM1NTIwMCZpZ3VpZD0zYWNmODI1OS1iN2M4LTYxMWUtMjU0Zi05MGEzYjZlNTYwYTImaW5zaWQ9NTUzOQ&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=3acf8259-b7c8-611e-254f-90a3b6e560a2&u=a1L3ZpZGVvcy9zZWFyY2g_cT1WaWRlbytvZitQb3BlK1BpdXMrWElJJnZpZXc9ZGV0YWlsJm1pZD1DMkRCMTk3OUZFNkQ2OUU0MUQzMkMyREIxOTc5RkU2RDY5RTQxRDMyJkZPUk09VklSRQ&ntb=1

One of scenes is from the canonization of St. Dominic Savio in 1954 I’m assuming. At the 2:18 mark there is a cameo appearance by Cardinal Montini of the Vatican Secretariat of State. At the 4:44 mark the people in St. Peter’s square are applauding and the Holy Father is making what someone described as the “bring it on” gesture.

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SimpleMan · « **Reply #12 on:** June 10, 2023, 05:57:16 PM »

Quote from: moneil on June 10, 2023, 04:55:14 PM

I would guess that this is staged, perhaps even with a double serving as Pope Pius XII. While color film was first available in 1935 (I was surprised when I looked it up, I would have guessed much later), black and white was still the norm for docuмentaries into the 1960's.

Here is a more authentic film clip (I appologize for not knowing how to more directly provide a YouTube link).

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=68e8da573dab9f98JmltdHM9MTY4NjM1NTIwMCZpZ3VpZD0zYWNmODI1OS1iN2M4LTYxMWUtMjU0Zi05MGEzYjZlNTYwYTImaW5zaWQ9NTUzOQ&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=3acf8259-b7c8-611e-254f-90a3b6e560a2&u=a1L3ZpZGVvcy9zZWFyY2g_cT1WaWRlbytvZitQb3BlK1BpdXMrWElJJnZpZXc9ZGV0YWlsJm1pZD1DMkRCMTk3OUZFNkQ2OUU0MUQzMkMyREIxOTc5RkU2RDY5RTQxRDMyJkZPUk09VklSRQ&ntb=1

One of scenes is from the canonization of St. Dominic Savio in 1954 I’m assuming. At the 2:18 mark there is a cameo appearance by Cardinal Montini of the Vatican Secretariat of State. At the 4:44 mark the people in St. Peter’s square are applauding and the Holy Father is making what someone described as the “bring it on” gesture.

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What makes you think it could be a double?

There would really have been no point to it.

moneil · « **Reply #13 on:** June 10, 2023, 06:31:58 PM »

Quote from: SimpleMan on June 10, 2023, 05:57:16 PM

What makes you think it could be a double?

There would really have been no point to it.

It is reportedly from a movie and a lot of it appears to me to have been staged, for many of the reasons given by Ladislus. I doubt an anthem (which at least now is often associated with Christmas) written by a Lutheran would be the processional music. I don't think the attending Cardinals would be chatting each other up as is shown, and an actual pontifical event in the 1950's would have been filmed in black & white, like the clip I posted. The producers could have taken authentic clips of His Holiness and colorized and inserted them. I'm wondering if it just wouldn't have easier for them to have found a double.

I'd like to go back and rewatch the video but it won't play for me right now (I live on a farm with DSL internet running over ancient phone lines).

trad123 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 11, 2023, 12:53:15 PM »

jnuval
1 year ago
Is this footage from a movie?

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silvan500
1 year ago
Yes :"Der veruntreute Himmel".

Matias Javier
4 months ago
Really beautiful, is this from a movie or real footage?

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silvan500
4 months ago
Both together.

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