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Offline Ladislaus

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St. Joseph
« on: March 19, 2021, 06:29:09 AM »
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  • I hold that St. Joseph:

    1) was sanctified immediately after conception (like St. John the Baptist but earlier).

    2) never committed a sin (even venial) his entire life.

    3) was assumed into Heaven.

    There's no known tomb of St. Joseph and no relics.  I believe that he lay incorrupt after his death until the time of Our Lady's Assumption and that he was assumed into Heaven right after Our Lady so he could be present for her coronation.

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    Re: St. Joseph
    « Reply #1 on: March 19, 2021, 06:43:14 AM »
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  • Well, I don't know about the relics.  We have a verified 2nd class relic of his robe.


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    Re: St. Joseph
    « Reply #2 on: March 19, 2021, 08:52:07 AM »
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  • Well, I don't know about the relics.  We have a verified 2nd class relic of his robe.

    OK, but I clearly meant first-class relics.


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    Re: St. Joseph
    « Reply #3 on: March 19, 2021, 08:52:45 AM »
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  • St. Francis de Sales:
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    How could we doubt that Our Lord raised glorious St. Joseph up into Heaven, body and soul? For he had the honor and grace of carrying Him so often in his blessed arms, arms in which Our Lord took so much pleasure. St. Joseph is therefore in Heaven body and soul, without a doubt.    

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    In the same way that Mary was assumed into Heaven, it is thought that Jesus deigned to glorify Joseph. In this way, all of the Holy Family – Jesus, Mary and Joseph – who lived together on Earth, would reign together in Heaven.


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    Re: St. Joseph
    « Reply #4 on: March 19, 2021, 09:30:54 AM »
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  • Yes, I agree with this. St. Joseph was sanctified in the womb, lived a perfectly sinless life without the slightest sin or imperfection, immaculate in that just like Our Lord and Our Lady, and was finally assumed into Heaven, to spend eternity with Jesus and Mary.

    He is the Greatest of All the Saints after Our Lord and Our Lady, and his most powerful and never-failing intercession is to be sought in all matters, especially the most difficult of cases that are otherwise almost despaired of. May St. Joseph grant us all a happy holy death.

    Pope Leo XIII, Quamquam Pluries: "That God may be more favourable to Our prayers, and that He may come with bounty and promptitude to the aid of His Church, We judge it of deep utility for the Christian people, continually to invoke with great piety and trust, together with the Virgin-Mother of God, her chaste Spouse, the Blessed Joseph; and We regard it as most certain that this will be most pleasing to the Virgin herself. On the subject of this devotion, of which We speak publicly for the first time to-day, We know without doubt that not only is the people inclined to it, but that it is already established, and is advancing to full growth. We have seen the devotion to St. Joseph, which in past times the Roman Pontiffs have developed and gradually increased, grow into greater proportions in Our time, particularly after Pius IX., of happy memory, Our predecessor, proclaimed, yielding to the request of a large number of bishops, this holy patriarch the patron of the Catholic Church. And as, moreover, it is of high importance that the devotion to St. Joseph should engraft itself upon the daily pious practices of Catholics, We desire that the Christian people should be urged to it above all by Our words and authority.

    3. The special motives for which St. Joseph has been proclaimed Patron of the Church, and from which the Church looks for singular benefit from his patronage and protection, are that Joseph was the spouse of Mary and that he was reputed the Father of Jesus Christ. From these sources have sprung his dignity, his holiness, his glory. In truth, the dignity of the Mother of God is so lofty that naught created can rank above it. But as Joseph has been united to the Blessed Virgin by the ties of marriage, it may not be doubted that he approached nearer than any to the eminent dignity by which the Mother of God surpasses so nobly all created natures. For marriage is the most intimate of all unions which from its essence imparts a community of gifts between those that by it are joined together. Thus in giving Joseph the Blessed Virgin as spouse, God appointed him to be not only her life's companion, the witness of her maidenhood, the protector of her honour, but also, by virtue of the conjugal tie, a participator in her sublime dignity. And Joseph shines among all mankind by the most august dignity, since by divine will, he was the guardian of the Son of God and reputed as His father among men. Hence it came about that the Word of God was humbly subject to Joseph, that He obeyed him, and that He rendered to him all those offices that children are bound to render to their parents. From this two-fold dignity flowed the obligation which nature lays upon the head of families, so that Joseph became the guardian, the administrator, and the legal defender of the divine house whose chief he was. And during the whole course of his life he fulfilled those charges and those duties. He set himself to protect with a mighty love and a daily solicitude his spouse and the Divine Infant; regularly by his work he earned what was necessary for the one and the other for nourishment and clothing; he guarded from death the Child threatened by a monarch's jealousy, and found for Him a refuge; in the miseries of the journey and in the bitternesses of exile he was ever the companion, the assistance, and the upholder of the Virgin and of Jesus. Now the divine house which Joseph ruled with the authority of a father, contained within its limits the scarce-born Church. From the same fact that the most holy Virgin is the mother of Jesus Christ is she the mother of all Christians whom she bore on Mount Calvary amid the supreme throes of the Redemption; Jesus Christ is, in a manner, the first-born of Christians, who by the adoption and Redemption are his brothers. And for such reasons the Blessed Patriarch looks upon the multitude of Christians who make up the Church as confided specially to his trust - this limitless family spread over the earth, over which, because he is the spouse of Mary and the Father of Jesus Christ he holds, as it were, a paternal authority. It is, then, natural and worthy that as the Blessed Joseph ministered to all the needs of the family at Nazareth and girt it about with his protection, he should now cover with the cloak of his heavenly patronage and defend the Church of Jesus Christ." http://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_15081889_quamquam-pluries.html

    Glorious St. Joseph, pray for us.
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    Re: St. Joseph
    « Reply #5 on: March 19, 2021, 09:45:09 AM »
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  • I hold that St. Joseph:

    1) was sanctified immєdιαtely after conception (like St. John the Baptist but earlier).

    2) never committed a sin (even venial) his entire life.

    3) was assumed into Heaven.

    There's no known tomb of St. Joseph and no relics.  I believe that he lay incorrupt after his death until the time of Our Lady's Assumption and that he was assumed into Heaven right after Our Lady so he could be present for her coronation.
    If I remember correctly, the Blessed Mother said nothing of the sort to Mary of Agreda. Moreover, I'd be worried about any personal belief that XavierSem agrees with. 
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    Re: St. Joseph
    « Reply #6 on: March 19, 2021, 10:12:00 AM »
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  • Moreover, I'd be worried about any personal belief that XavierSem agrees with.

    Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day.   :laugh1:

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    Re: St. Joseph
    « Reply #7 on: March 19, 2021, 10:52:55 AM »
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  • Another interesting take on the Tomb of St. Joseph:


    Only a few men followed the coffin with Jesus and Mary; but I saw it accompanied by angels and environed with light. Joseph’s remains were afterward removed by the Christians to Bethlehem, and interred. I think I can still see him lying there incorrupt.” -Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich.


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    Re: St. Joseph
    « Reply #8 on: March 19, 2021, 11:58:04 AM »
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  • Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day.   :laugh1:
    Palmarians would agree with the Assumption of St. Joseph too. However they might hold that St. Joseph was immaculately conceived.

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    Re: St. Joseph
    « Reply #9 on: March 19, 2021, 12:00:05 PM »
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  • Palmarians would agree with the Assumption of St. Joseph too. However they might hold that St. Joseph was immaculately conceived.

    I haven't kept up with all their dogmas.  I think they hold that Our Lady is present in the Blessed Sacrament too.


     

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