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Author Topic: Tower of Babel - will the official translation please stand up?  (Read 4754 times)

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Offline UMCGB

Re: Tower of Babel - will the official translation please stand up?
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2022, 03:34:01 PM »
Quote from: Emile on March 23, 2022, 03:26:12 PM
Please be so charitable as to enlighten us.
I said it's commanded that we pray for their conversions. We are not to pray for pardon of those who reject Jesus Christ and don't love Him, and who don't believe in Him. The notion that we are to pray for their pardon is a heresy as it implies they can be saved. The Church before Vatican II is clear that they can't be saved. The aforementioned prayer is awful because its semantics are akin to something written at the Council. And what's the point of Christ suffering and dying on the Cross, if all of these Godless pricks can be pardoned anyway? 
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Offline Minnesota

Re: Tower of Babel - will the official translation please stand up?
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2022, 03:43:11 PM »
Quote from: UMCGB on March 23, 2022, 03:34:01 PM
I said it's commanded that we pray for their conversions. We are not to pray for pardon of those who reject Jesus Christ and don't love Him, and who don't believe in Him. The notion that we are to pray for their pardon is a heresy as it implies they can be saved. The Church before Vatican II is clear that they can't be saved. The aforementioned prayer is awful because its semantics are akin to something written at the Council. And what's the point of Christ suffering and dying on the Cross, if all of these Godless pricks can be pardoned anyway?
It comes across as a touch Feeneyite, to be frank.
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Offline UMCGB

Re: Tower of Babel - will the official translation please stand up?
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2022, 03:47:45 PM »
Quote from: Minnesota on March 23, 2022, 03:43:11 PM
It comes across as a touch Feeneyite, to be frank.
No it doesn't. The prayer under scrutiny is opposite of "Feeneyite".

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