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Re: Do you think the second coming of Christ will be in the next fifty years?
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2025, 08:04:36 PM »
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  • Well Ladislaus the Church was equally in a very bad state during the Arian heresy “as the Church woke up to find itself Arian”. Yes the current state is somewhat worse in that the rot has infiltrated right to the top.

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    Re: Do you think the second coming of Christ will be in the next fifty years?
    « Reply #31 on: February 28, 2025, 10:14:56 PM »
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  • Well Ladislaus the Church was equally in a very bad state during the Arian heresy “as the Church woke up to find itself Arian”. Yes the current state is somewhat worse in that the rot has infiltrated right to the top.

    Not even close.  Here we have the "Magisterium" and what appears to be papal authority to substantially changing the Church, imposing a new religion in its place, from what appears to be the Church's official teaching.  Great numbers of bishops going Arian cannot come close to what would on the surface be tantamount to a defection of the Church in her Magisterium and official teaching.  Nor does the Great Western schism come close.  I grow weary of the constant R&R absurdity of how this crisis is just INDIVIDUALS losing the faith.  R&R are positing an institutional collapse, a defection of the Church.


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  • Those who don't realize what objectively extraordinary times we live in have been frog-boiled into somehow accepting this situation as a "New Normal", and part of it that does come from the fruits of R&R, and the SSPX are most advanced in this thinking.  There is nothing close to not being earth-shattering about the state of the Church.  Period.  If you think that "this too shall pass" or "no big deal" ... then you're already in the process of losing your faith.
    Although I was only a child when the changes began, it only took a year or two for many of the pioneering trads to firmly  believe that the end was at hand because of what was happening to the Church, which ended up being the cause of the total loss of faith for many of them - imo because the whole idea made them lose all hope. There's no reason to be overly concerned about something we can never know either in this world or in the next - even Our Blessed Mother doesn't know when.  

    "...But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?" Luke 18:8

    Our Lord implied that when He returns, the faith will be either almost or completely gone from the whole earth. IF that is the case, then we should still have 2 or 3 more generations to go, likely many, many more.  

     


     
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    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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  • Although I was only a child when the changes began, it only took a year or two for many of the pioneering trads to firmly  believe that the end was at hand because of what was happening to the Church, which ended up being the cause of the total loss of faith for many of them - imo because the whole idea made them lose all hope. There's no reason to be overly concerned about something we can never know either in this world or in the next - even Our Blessed Mother doesn't know when. 

    "...But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?" Luke 18:8

    Our Lord implied that when He returns, the faith will be either almost or completely gone from the whole earth. IF that is the case, then we should still have 2 or 3 more generations to go, likely many, many more. 

     


     
    When the antichrist takes power, he will kill most all practicing Catholics.  That would pretty much wipe the faith off the earth.

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  • When the antichrist takes power, he will kill most all practicing Catholics.  That would pretty much wipe the faith off the earth.
    Where do you get this idea? I always thought the loss of Faith was because people didn't Trust God anymore. I didn't think the loss of Faith was forced upon mankind because God allowed man to destroy themselves.
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  • Where do you get this idea? I always thought the loss of Faith was because people didn't Trust God anymore. I didn't think the loss of Faith was forced upon mankind because God allowed man to destroy themselves.
    The great Apostasy greatly reduces the Catholic faith on the earth.  Prophecy tells us that the antichrist will kill all those who will not worship him.  These two events will wipe out the faith.  Our Lord also stated that He will shorten the time because if He doesn't step in "there will be no flesh left."

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  • When the antichrist takes power, he will kill most all practicing Catholics.  That would pretty much wipe the faith off the earth.

    The "killing" and "death" spoken of in those prophecies about the Antichrist is not physical killing and physical death. It is talking about him causing spiritual death through his deception, leading people to believe it is okay to commit mortal sin. And the people who go along with the deception will be in a state of mortal sin. They will be cut off from God, from Life. They will be dead spiritually.

    This is the effect of "operation of error" discussed in 2 Thessalonians 2. It is working at this very moment. It will reach its apex very soon. Bergoglio is the "man of sin." Watch and pray.

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  • The "killing" and "death" spoken of in those prophecies about the Antichrist is not physical killing and physical death. It is talking about him causing spiritual death through his deception, leading people to believe it is okay to commit mortal sin. And the people who go along with the deception will be in a state of mortal sin. They will be cut off from God, from Life. They will be dead spiritually.

    This is the effect of "operation of error" discussed in 2 Thessalonians 2. It is working at this very moment. It will reach its apex very soon. Bergoglio is the "man of sin." Watch and pray.
    What makes you believe that Bergoglio is the man of sin? I don't say you're wrong, I'm just wondering what makes you believe this.




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  • What makes you believe that Bergoglio is the man of sin? I don't say you're wrong, I'm just wondering what makes you believe this.

    Because he fits the description that St. Paul gives in 2 Thessalonians 2. He is a pretender to the throne of Peter, a heretical antipope. He is attempting to convince Catholics that if one subjectively believes himself to be free from serious sin, then he is actually free from sin and may receive the Eucharist. He acts as if he is God by "correcting" the teachings of Jesus on adultery, for example. 

    But he has not been "revealed" yet to "the world." This will come soon. This obscurity is part of his deception.

    Then there are many private revelations that describe him. He is the "destroyer" antipope of St. Francis of Assisi.

    In St. Malachy's prophecy of the popes, he comes directly after "the glory of the olive," who is described as the last pope before the tribulation of the Church.

    His revelation comes in the final 7 years of the 70 years discussed in Daniel, chapter 9. I believe the 70 years started in 1959. It is a long explanation that I have discussed elsewhere on Cathinfo. And my interpretation matches up with the fact that the Third Secret of Fatima was supposed to be released BEFORE 1960, and because it was not, we are living the consequences: the apostasy that was planted as a bad seed in the 1960s, cultivated and watered by freemasons and communists infiltrators in the Vatican, and perfected in Bergoglio who is himself a communist.

    He is a match, in my opinion, for what St. Hildegard von Bingen describes (figuratively) in the following text:

    Description of the Antichrist in St. Hildegard von Bingen (1173 AD)

    The Antichrist will indeed be infused by the devil when he opens his mouth to teach perversity, as described above. He will destroy all that God established with the ancient and the new law, and he will assert that sɛҳuąƖ immorality and other like things are not sins at all. For he will claim that it is not a sin if flesh heats up flesh, just as it is not a sin if a person warms himself by the fire. He will also assert that all commandments concerning chastity were made in ignorance, for since one person may be hot but another cold, they ought to moderate one another with their heat and cold.

    And again he will say to the faithful, 

    “Your law of sɛҳuąƖ restraint was established contrary to the way of nature. Is a person not supposed to be hot, when his very breath is a fire that kindles his whole body? How could he keep his cool when it’s against his nature? Conversely, what reason could a person have to refuse to offer warmth to another’s flesh? For that man who you say is your master gave you a law that goes beyond measure when he bid you to live in such a way. But I say, embrace these two paths of hot and cold, and keep each other in your warm embrace! Consider that the man just mentioned gave you unjust commands, for despite his order that people not embrace one another with such warmth, they still maintained the nature of their flesh. So see here and do not be misled any longer by an unjust teaching, for with me you get to do whatever you want or not. Your master did not set before you correct propositions; he wanted you to be like a spirit that is unbound by the flesh and cannot physically do anything. But that’s not how naturally-born human flesh was created; rather it’s flooded and formed by fire, because if human children weren’t created in that way, they wouldn’t be capable of physical action. So know then what you really are! For your first teacher deceived you and didn’t help you in anything. But I inspire you really to learn about yourselves and to know what you are, for I created you, and I am completely in all things. In assigning all his works to another, meanwhile, that one spoke nothing on his own because he couldn’t do anything on his own. But I speak for myself, and I can do all things by myself.”

    With these words and others like them, that wretched son of perdition will mislead people, teaching them to live according to the flesh’s fiery appetite and to achieve their flesh’s every want--despite the fact that both the old and the new law encourage humans to chastity in such a way that chastity does not surpass its proper measure.

    The Fathers of the Church, Mediaeval Continuation, Volume 18. St. Hildegard Von Bingen, The Book of Divine Works. Pages 466-467, Part III, Vision 5, Chapter 30 (in part).


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  • Because he fits the description that St. Paul gives in 2 Thessalonians 2. He is a pretender to the throne of Peter, a heretical antipope. He is attempting to convince Catholics that if one subjectively believes himself to be free from serious sin, then he is actually free from sin and may receive the Eucharist. He acts as if he is God by "correcting" the teachings of Jesus on adultery, for example.

    But he has not been "revealed" yet to "the world." This will come soon. This obscurity is part of his deception.

    Then there are many private revelations that describe him. He is the "destroyer" antipope of St. Francis of Assisi.

    In St. Malachy's prophecy of the popes, he comes directly after "the glory of the olive," who is described as the last pope before the tribulation of the Church.

    His revelation comes in the final 7 years of the 70 years discussed in Daniel, chapter 9. I believe the 70 years started in 1959. It is a long explanation that I have discussed elsewhere on Cathinfo. And my interpretation matches up with the fact that the Third Secret of Fatima was supposed to be released BEFORE 1960, and because it was not, we are living the consequences: the apostasy that was planted as a bad seed in the 1960s, cultivated and watered by freemasons and communists infiltrators in the Vatican, and perfected in Bergoglio who is himself a communist.

    He is a match, in my opinion, for what St. Hildegard von Bingen describes (figuratively) in the following text:

    Description of the Antichrist in St. Hildegard von Bingen (1173 AD)

    The Antichrist will indeed be infused by the devil when he opens his mouth to teach perversity, as described above. He will destroy all that God established with the ancient and the new law, and he will assert that sɛҳuąƖ immorality and other like things are not sins at all. For he will claim that it is not a sin if flesh heats up flesh, just as it is not a sin if a person warms himself by the fire. He will also assert that all commandments concerning chastity were made in ignorance, for since one person may be hot but another cold, they ought to moderate one another with their heat and cold.

    And again he will say to the faithful,

    “Your law of sɛҳuąƖ restraint was established contrary to the way of nature. Is a person not supposed to be hot, when his very breath is a fire that kindles his whole body? How could he keep his cool when it’s against his nature? Conversely, what reason could a person have to refuse to offer warmth to another’s flesh? For that man who you say is your master gave you a law that goes beyond measure when he bid you to live in such a way. But I say, embrace these two paths of hot and cold, and keep each other in your warm embrace! Consider that the man just mentioned gave you unjust commands, for despite his order that people not embrace one another with such warmth, they still maintained the nature of their flesh. So see here and do not be misled any longer by an unjust teaching, for with me you get to do whatever you want or not. Your master did not set before you correct propositions; he wanted you to be like a spirit that is unbound by the flesh and cannot physically do anything. But that’s not how naturally-born human flesh was created; rather it’s flooded and formed by fire, because if human children weren’t created in that way, they wouldn’t be capable of physical action. So know then what you really are! For your first teacher deceived you and didn’t help you in anything. But I inspire you really to learn about yourselves and to know what you are, for I created you, and I am completely in all things. In assigning all his works to another, meanwhile, that one spoke nothing on his own because he couldn’t do anything on his own. But I speak for myself, and I can do all things by myself.”

    With these words and others like them, that wretched son of perdition will mislead people, teaching them to live according to the flesh’s fiery appetite and to achieve their flesh’s every want--despite the fact that both the old and the new law encourage humans to chastity in such a way that chastity does not surpass its proper measure.

    The Fathers of the Church, Mediaeval Continuation, Volume 18. St. Hildegard Von Bingen, The Book of Divine Works. Pages 466-467, Part III, Vision 5, Chapter 30 (in part).
    That interesting! We'll see in the future if you are right. I guess you answered yes to this poll!

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  • Because he fits the description that St. Paul gives in 2 Thessalonians 2. He is a pretender to the throne of Peter, a heretical antipope. He is attempting to convince Catholics that if one subjectively believes himself to be free from serious sin, then he is actually free from sin and may receive the Eucharist. He acts as if he is God by "correcting" the teachings of Jesus on adultery, for example.

    But he has not been "revealed" yet to "the world." This will come soon. This obscurity is part of his deception.

    Then there are many private revelations that describe him. He is the "destroyer" antipope of St. Francis of Assisi.

    In St. Malachy's prophecy of the popes, he comes directly after "the glory of the olive," who is described as the last pope before the tribulation of the Church.

    His revelation comes in the final 7 years of the 70 years discussed in Daniel, chapter 9. I believe the 70 years started in 1959. It is a long explanation that I have discussed elsewhere on Cathinfo. And my interpretation matches up with the fact that the Third Secret of Fatima was supposed to be released BEFORE 1960, and because it was not, we are living the consequences: the apostasy that was planted as a bad seed in the 1960s, cultivated and watered by freemasons and communists infiltrators in the Vatican, and perfected in Bergoglio who is himself a communist.

    He is a match, in my opinion, for what St. Hildegard von Bingen describes (figuratively) in the following text:

    Description of the Antichrist in St. Hildegard von Bingen (1173 AD)

    The Antichrist will indeed be infused by the devil when he opens his mouth to teach perversity, as described above. He will destroy all that God established with the ancient and the new law, and he will assert that sɛҳuąƖ immorality and other like things are not sins at all. For he will claim that it is not a sin if flesh heats up flesh, just as it is not a sin if a person warms himself by the fire. He will also assert that all commandments concerning chastity were made in ignorance, for since one person may be hot but another cold, they ought to moderate one another with their heat and cold.

    And again he will say to the faithful,

    “Your law of sɛҳuąƖ restraint was established contrary to the way of nature. Is a person not supposed to be hot, when his very breath is a fire that kindles his whole body? How could he keep his cool when it’s against his nature? Conversely, what reason could a person have to refuse to offer warmth to another’s flesh? For that man who you say is your master gave you a law that goes beyond measure when he bid you to live in such a way. But I say, embrace these two paths of hot and cold, and keep each other in your warm embrace! Consider that the man just mentioned gave you unjust commands, for despite his order that people not embrace one another with such warmth, they still maintained the nature of their flesh. So see here and do not be misled any longer by an unjust teaching, for with me you get to do whatever you want or not. Your master did not set before you correct propositions; he wanted you to be like a spirit that is unbound by the flesh and cannot physically do anything. But that’s not how naturally-born human flesh was created; rather it’s flooded and formed by fire, because if human children weren’t created in that way, they wouldn’t be capable of physical action. So know then what you really are! For your first teacher deceived you and didn’t help you in anything. But I inspire you really to learn about yourselves and to know what you are, for I created you, and I am completely in all things. In assigning all his works to another, meanwhile, that one spoke nothing on his own because he couldn’t do anything on his own. But I speak for myself, and I can do all things by myself.”

    With these words and others like them, that wretched son of perdition will mislead people, teaching them to live according to the flesh’s fiery appetite and to achieve their flesh’s every want--despite the fact that both the old and the new law encourage humans to chastity in such a way that chastity does not surpass its proper measure.

    The Fathers of the Church, Mediaeval Continuation, Volume 18. St. Hildegard Von Bingen, The Book of Divine Works. Pages 466-467, Part III, Vision 5, Chapter 30 (in part).
    berg is the sixth antipope 


    "And the beast which was, and is not: the same also is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into destruction. "

    The false prophet is probably his successor, and then according to your sources the man of sin.

    he will prolly start as an antipope and then reveal to be a Jєωιѕн rabbi claiming to be the messiah


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  • 70 years likely started on october 9 1958 thats when the last pope died

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  • conversion of the jews - maybe only 144,000 jews will convert.

    The antichrist will kill them and all the other faithful Catholics


    we should be glad if the antichrist is coming and pray not to go apostate, for some people can only be saved by martyrdom. Think of St. Andrew Wouters.