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Offline IndultCat

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Re: Pope has double pneumonia
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2025, 02:03:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 19, 2025, 06:06:47 AM
    100% it's un-Catholic and is referred to as bitter zeal.  God wills the salvation of all but you're over here relishing the thought that he "dies and goes to hell where he belongs".  Apart from the fact that thankfully it's not up to people like you to decide "where he belongs", there's always hope for his conversion until the moment he dies ..  i.e. "where he belongs" has not been determined yet....

    Like Bergoglio, you need to repent of this wickedness yourself or your own judgment will be harsh, likely harsher than his, since Our Lord will judge you with the same measure that you use to judge others.  At least Bergoglio professes "Who am I to judge?"  In a sense we ALL "belong" in hell, so if you go by that criterion there's no hope for you either.

    Even you instinctively know it's un-Catholic because you start defending it immediately.  If it were Catholic, it would need no defense.

    Alas this bitterness is how the devil has laid low many Trads, especially sedevacantists, so please do some reflection here for your own sake.  What if Bergoglio were your father or brother or son?

    As for the Church being "freed from the Bergoglian captivity," are you dense enough to 1) think that this Crisis is about just Bergoglio and 2) that the Church would be free of his captivity ... when he appointed the vast majority of the voting Cardinals, and 3) that God won't allow this Crisis to continue and even to worsen under the next guy.  At least Bergoglio was so open that he woke many people up, so he unwittingly performed a great service to Tradition.  We could get a deceiver like Ratzinger back in there to put the Motarians back to sleep believing that we had a new St. Pius X.
    Ah, so I finally run into the "nororious bully/know-it-all of this forum"! Yes, the Lord will judge me the same way I judge others and I judge Bergoglio with righteous judgment. He is not just some heretical layman, priest or bishop who is merely responsible for guiding their small flocks. No no no, Bergoglio is responsible for leading over a billion Catholic souls as what most Catholics believe to be "the vicar of christ on earth" and so he is not to be held to the same judgmental standards as any other layman or prelate. That is righteous judgment. To compare him to my brother or to my son is irrelevant. My brother and my son are not believed to be the "vicar of christ on earth." And if he repents before death, then good for him. May he then be purged with the worst pains of purgatory for trillions of years and even then that would be too merciful. Oh, but of course you know more than most Catholics and so that entitles you to call people "dense" and challenge someone's "righteous judgment." 
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    Offline Yeti

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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #31 on: February 19, 2025, 02:10:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 19, 2025, 12:08:40 PM
    Given all the progressives that Bergoglio appointed, I would think a Sarah election unlikely and if he does get elected, IMO, then it will have been done ON PURPOSE, deliberately engineered, since it simply cannot happen naturally given the "Cardinals" Bergoglio has appointed.  And the intent there would then be to trick the Traddie-leaning types back into the Conciliar Entity.
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    Yes, which is why I'm really worried about this. These guys are not stupid.

    It's also worth pointing out, for anyone who isn't aware of this, that roughly about 80% of the "cardinals" who have the right to vote (since they don't all have the right to vote anymore) were appointed by Bergoglio. I'm not sure where that fits in here, if it does, but I thought I'd mention it.
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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #32 on: February 19, 2025, 02:39:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on February 19, 2025, 02:10:54 PM
    It's also worth pointing out, for anyone who isn't aware of this, that roughly about 80% of the "cardinals" who have the right to vote (since they don't all have the right to vote anymore) were appointed by Bergoglio. I'm not sure where that fits in here, if it does, but I thought I'd mention it.

    Yeah, they're not going to be voting for Bishop Sanborn or even Archbishop Vigano anytime soon, that's for sure.  That's why I brought up that if they DO elect some conservative type like Sarah or Burke, it would only be as a "conservative" Trojan horse meant to lull the "Trad Inc." and neo-SSPX back to their Ratzingerian sleep.
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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #33 on: February 19, 2025, 02:44:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: IndultCat on February 19, 2025, 02:03:39 PM
    Ah, so I finally run into the "nororious bully/know-it-all of this forum"!

    Expected from a Pharisee and apparently also a snowflake who can dish it out but can't take it, eh, bud?  Crying "bully".  What kind of unmanly effeminate wimp are you?  You declared already that he "belongs in hell" and are relishing his dying soon and taking his place there.  100% that's some nasty Pharisaical trash.  Actual Catholics hope and pray for his conversion and ultimately the salvation of his soul, regardless of the gravity of his sins.  Only God will judge His soul, and God wills everyone's salvation.  Had your bloviating mouth stopped with I hope he passes away soon to rid the Church of his evil, without adding the part where you relished his departure soon to hell, where he "belongs", as you're the judge of his soul ... then it may have been passable.  This is the nastiness that makes Trads look bad.  I find this attitude repulsive, repugnant, and contrary to all Catholic charity.
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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #34 on: February 19, 2025, 02:48:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 19, 2025, 02:44:58 PM
    Expected from a Pharisee and apparently also a snowflake who can dish it out but can't take it, eh, bud? 
    Again with the insults without admitting your own failure to distinguish between righteous judgment and mere Phariseeism. 
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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #35 on: February 19, 2025, 02:51:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: IndultCat on February 19, 2025, 02:48:46 PM
    Again with the insults without admitting your own failure to distinguish between righteous judgment and mere Phariseeism.

    I distinguished it quite cleary, and can't help it if you're a moron ... not to mention a hypocrite as you started with the personal insults, whereas I had merely pointed out the unacceptabiliity of your rancid comments.  Even YOU on one level recognized, despite your having suppressed it in your own mind, that this attitude is not Catholic, since you immediately pointed out that most would (rightly so) consider this attitude not Catholic and immediately launched into defending it before anyone else had even written anything against it.  On one level you instinctively know it's wrong and nasty, and it's noxious, smelling of devilish sulfur.
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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #36 on: February 19, 2025, 02:54:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: IndultCat on February 18, 2025, 11:23:24 PM
    Maybe he will finally kick the proverbial bucket this time. He has done so much damage to the faith of devout Catholics for over a decade and is such a manifest heretic that he can't die soon enough. And for those who think that is too harsh and un-Catholic, please look in the Catholic Encyclopedia under the term "Hate/Hatred" where it says that it is perfectly fine to pray for the death of a heresiarch and Bergoglio is a genuine heresiarch through and through. The sooner he dies and goes to hell where he belongs, the sooner the Church will be free from The Bergoglian Captivity.

    Terms like "kick the bucket" and your obvious relishing of his going "to hell where he belongs" is where you cross the line precisely into being not Catholic in this attitude.  Not to mention that you're a complete idiot if you think this would rid the Church of "The Bergoglian Captivity".  Nasty stuff here that you should be ashamed of, but you're going to double down.
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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #37 on: February 19, 2025, 02:55:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 19, 2025, 06:06:47 AM
    100% it's un-Catholic and is referred to as bitter zeal.  God wills the salvation of all but you're over here relishing the thought that he "dies and goes to hell where he belongs".  Apart from the fact that thankfully it's not up to people like you to decide "where he belongs", there's always hope for his conversion until the moment he dies ..  i.e. "where he belongs" has not been determined yet with finality except in the foreknowledge of God ... to which you are not privy.

    Like Bergoglio, you need to repent of this wickedness yourself or your own judgment will be harsh, likely harsher than his, since Our Lord will judge you with the same measure that you use to judge others.  At least Bergoglio professes "Who am I to judge?"  In a sense we ALL "belong" in hell, so if you go by that criterion there's no hope for you either.

    Even you instinctively know it's un-Catholic because you start defending it immediately.  If it were Catholic, it would need no defense.

    Alas this bitterness is how the devil has laid low many Trads, especially sedevacantists, so please do some reflection here for your own sake.  What if Bergoglio were your father or brother or son?

    As for the Church being "freed from the Bergoglian captivity," are you dense enough to 1) think that this Crisis is about just Bergoglio and 2) that the Church would be free of his captivity ... when he appointed the vast majority of the voting Cardinals, and 3) that God won't allow this Crisis to continue and even to worsen under the next guy.  At least Bergoglio was so open that he woke many people up, so he unwittingly performed a great service to Tradition.  We could get a deceiver like Ratzinger back in there to put the Motarians back to sleep believing that we had a new St. Pius X.

    To which I responded with the above by explaining the distinctions, in a relatively mild tone other than where I called you dense to believe that his death would free the Church of the "Bergoglian captivity" as you call it.
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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #38 on: February 19, 2025, 02:57:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: IndultCat on February 19, 2025, 02:03:39 PM
    Ah, so I finally run into the "nororious bully/know-it-all of this forum"!

    To which you respond with an insult, and then later have the hypocritical temerity to declare that I'm the one using insults ... and also acting like an effeminate snowflake in using the term "bully".  Boo hoo.  What are you, 10 years old?  You can dish out wishing people to hell but you can't take my calling you out for bitter zeal.
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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #39 on: February 19, 2025, 03:01:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 19, 2025, 02:51:48 PM
    I distinguished it quite cleary, and can't help it if you're a moron ... not to mention a hypocrite as you started with the personal insults, whereas I had merely pointed out the unacceptabiliity of your rancid comments.  Even YOU on one level recognized, despite your having suppressed it in your own mind, that this attitude is not Catholic, since you immediately pointed out that most would (rightly so) consider this attitude not Catholic and immediately launched into defending it before anyone else had even written anything against it.  On one level you instinctively know it's wrong and nasty, and it's noxious, smelling of devilish sulfur.
    You know that you began the insults by calling someone "dense" and the insults continue to flow with "moron" and "hypocrite". I correctly assumed that others would erroneously consider my position to be "not Catholic" due to the fact that the modernist Catholic Church has greatly softened its position on just judgment and that is why I cited the Catholic Encyclopedia article on it being absolutely acceptible to hate and pray for the death of a heresiarch, especially the most influential heresiarch unfortuntely still alive: Bergoglio.
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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #40 on: February 19, 2025, 03:19:23 PM »
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    • "Pope" Francis is a sack of demon feces. 
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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #41 on: February 19, 2025, 03:21:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 19, 2025, 11:49:22 AM
    Sad that something like this was posted and, even worse, got two upvotes.  It's attitudes like this that make me lose hope regarding Traditional Catholicism.  Doctrine might be good, well, for some Trads, but the charity seems mightily wanting for many.


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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #42 on: February 19, 2025, 03:43:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: IndultCat on February 19, 2025, 03:01:20 PM
    You know that you began the insults by calling someone "dense" and the insults continue to flow with "moron" and "hypocrite". 

    And they will continue to flow. You have more of a chance of squaring a train's iron wheel than breaking through the shell of Lad's insult nut. 
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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #43 on: February 19, 2025, 03:44:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on February 19, 2025, 03:19:23 PM
    "Pope" Francis is a sack of demon feces.

    Sadly, this is the state of Traditional Catholicism, this the likes of IndultNonCat.
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    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #44 on: February 19, 2025, 03:44:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on February 19, 2025, 03:19:23 PM
    "Pope" Francis is a sack of demon feces.

    I'd go with the Bible's "son of perdition" personally. 
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    Rom. 3:25 Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins" 

    Apoc 17:17 For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled.
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