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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
« Reply #60 on: March 24, 2024, 04:36:48 PM »
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  • I disagree, their accuracy seems to be exceptional. As I live in an area that borders on the path of totality, as long as the sky is clear, I plan on testing their timing and accuracy of path. You can probably do the same thing.

    Selenelion eclipses, regular occurences explained away as "refraction" but could not otherwise be explained according to the modern scientific explanation for eclipses.  Most models show the moon occluding the sun from left to right or from right to left, but actual observation (video, etc.) shows the moon moving "down", from top to bottom, to occlude the sun.  Angles of the shadows, etc. when viewed from planes (there are a couple videos of eclipses viewed from airplanes) are all wrong.  These are just the ones I can think of that don't make sense given the prevailing model.


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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #61 on: March 24, 2024, 04:54:46 PM »
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  • My friend sent me this..



    I'm not one to seek inspiration from Protestant sources, but I couldn't help noticing the verse from Exodus 4:8 at 2:02.

    The Bible was not given chapter and verse numbers until at least the 15th century.


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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #62 on: March 24, 2024, 08:16:56 PM »
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    And the eclipse occurs in the constellation of Aries, the ram, the male lamb.  Aries is ruled the planet Mars (war).  It is also April 8, the feast day of St. Julie Billiart (1816), the courageous nun who stood strong against the godless revolutionaries during the French Revolution.  The Epistle that day is from Is. 7:10, "Ask a sign of the Lord...His name shall be called Emmanuel."  And the Gospel is the story of the archangel Gabriel coming to our Lady.  And the Offertory Verse,

    "Take courage, and now fear not: for behold our God will bring judgment.  He Himself will come and will save us."  
    Good info.  

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    « Reply #63 on: March 26, 2024, 05:53:19 PM »
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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #65 on: March 27, 2024, 12:46:27 PM »
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  • I hadn't realized there was so much speculation afoot, so I thought I'd pass on this commentary from Bob Sungenis.


    Facts Regarding the April 8, 2024 Solar Eclipse over North America
    Robert Sungenis: None of these are “facts.” They are rumors, exaggerations, and apocalyptic fantasies. 
    1)THE UPCOMING TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE of APRIL 8TH 2024, IS 6 YEARS 6 MONTHS 6 WEEKS AND 6 DAYS ( 6666) AFTER THE LAST TOTAL ECLIPSE OVER THE US IN 2017.
    RS: This is false. There are 2,422 days from August 21, 2017 to April 8, 2024, which, including two leap years (2020 and 2024) amounts to 6 years, 6 months, 7 weeks and 1 day.
    2.    It also spells in Hebrew Alpha and the Omega as TAV
    RS: First, what is “It”? Second, TAV is the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet. The first letter of Hebrew is Aleph. In order to match the Greek “Alpha and Omega” the Hebrew would have to have “Aleph and Tav.” Third, Hebrew does not use acronyms, and even if it did, TAV does not mean “THE ALPHA and OMEGA,” since the Hebrew “V” does equate with the Greek ω.
    3.    It passes over 7 US cities named Nineveh.(Repent)  4.
    RS: That is a rumor from TikTok. There are only two places named Nineveh (Nineveh, Indiana, and Nineveh, Ohio) that will see a total solar eclipse on April 8, 2024. The other six places called Nineveh listed in the TikTok video are located outside the projected 115-mile-wide path of the moon's shadow and will experience a partial solar eclipse like every other town in the contiguous United States. And if there were any truth to the idea that a solar eclipse going through cities is a warning of judgment against them, why do the east coast and west coast of America get off Scott free – the places where most of the evil occurs in America, not the Bible Belt in the Midwest!
    4.    It also passes over 7 US cities named Salem( Peace)
    RS:  There are 32 places in the United States that have a city or town named “Salem,” and most of them (17) are outside the swath of the total eclipse of April 8, 2024.
    5.    All of the major planets are in a perfect alignment with a 2024 total solar eclipse along with the Pleiades and a comet
    RS: First, planetary alignments are a common occurrence, just like eclipses. There are at least two solar eclipses per year. Although that might seem like a rare event, the rate of movement and angles at which the sun and moon coordinate, there can only be, at most, five solar eclipses per year, and that only happens less than one percent of the time.
    As for planetary alignments, April 8, 2024 is not one of them. The planets will align on April 4, 2024, and the day after, they will not be aligned. As for the next alignments:
    On April 20, 2024: there will be a morning alignment of Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn, and Neptune.
    On June 7, 2024: there will be a morning alignment of Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.
    On August 28, 2024: there will be a morning alignment of Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.
    On January 18, 2025: there will be a morning alignment of Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, and Saturn.
    On February 28, 2025: there will be a full evening alignment of Saturn, Mercury, Neptune, Venus, Uranus, Jupiter, and Mars.
    On August 29, 2025: there will be a morning alignment of Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, and Saturn.
    6.    The X which the eclipse traces intersects over the great New Madrid fault zone
    RS: Comparison maps will show that the New Madrid fault zone is east of the path of the total solar eclipse by almost the width of Arkansas. The path of the 2024 eclipse goes from Texas to Maine, and even if we widened the path of the eclipse to include the eastern end of Arkansas, the eclipse path hits 95% of non-seismic sections of the US.
    Anyone can superimpose one eclipse path over another. It’s been done for years. NASA also did it for a partial 2023 and the upcoming 2024 eclipse, and got this map:


    7.    The Chinese spy balloon followed the path of the 2017 eclipse
    RS: False. The paths are very different, as one can see by the comparison maps. And what difference would it make in any case? This is just apocalyptic sensationalism at its best.

    8.    The last total solar eclipse followed the path of the crack across America from Montana to Florida.
    RS: This is false. As one can see from the picture below, the 1700 mile crack is way north of the 2023 eclipse path. The 2023 eclipse path starts in southern Oregon and goes through southern Texas. The 1700 mile crack starts above Washington state and goes through northern Georgia.


    9.    The cicada locust plague is also centered in that area starting at the same time.
    RS: In what “area”? Cicada invasions occur every 13 to 17 years, and mostly on the east coast of the United States. They have nothing to do with eclipses, cracks or paths of spy balloons.

    10. The path of totality begins in America in a place called JONAH also the one who called NINEVEH to repent as a TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE happened overhead.
    RS: There is no positive proof there was a total solar eclipse over Nineveh in the days of Jonah. NASA calculates that there was a solar eclipse on the day June 15, 763, but it was only a partial eclipse in Nineveh; and whether Jonah was preaching to Nineveh on or near that date cannot be ascertained. The major problem is that the book of Jonah makes no mention of an eclipse, although some have tried to claim that the passage in which Jonah is said to get too hot because of the sun might be a reference to an eclipse (Jonah 4:6-10). But even if Jonah experienced an eclipse, it gets cooler during the few minutes of an eclipse, not hotter.
    11. JESUS PROPHESIED THAT THE END OF DAYS WOULD COME WITH THE SIGN OF JONAH! ( To a " wicked and adulterous" generation.
    RS: Not quite. Jesus stated that the unbelieving people of HIS DAY would get no miracle from him except the resurrection of Jesus, which resurrection is analogous to Jonah’s experience with the great fish (Matthew 12:39-40). Jesus did not use the sign of Jonah for the end of days of his Second coming. In fact, Jesus prophesied that the end of days leading to his Second coming would be rather calm and festive, just as they were in the days of Noah (Matthew 24:37-39).
    12.  Unlike all previous total solar eclipses over the USA the NATIONAL GUARD is being deployed across the country some with hazmat suits to prevent 'industrial contamination.'

    RS: The National Guard is being called in some states (e.g., Oklahoma) because huge crowds are expected to watch the April 8, 2024 eclipse. They want to keep law and order, especially in the face of other uprising across the US in recent years.
    My advice? Stop listening to TikTok.



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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #66 on: March 27, 2024, 03:00:48 PM »
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  • I hadn't realized there was so much speculation afoot, so I thought I'd pass on this commentary from Bob Sungenis.


    Facts Regarding the April 8, 2024 Solar Eclipse over North America
    Robert Sungenis: None of these are “facts.” They are rumors, exaggerations, and apocalyptic fantasies. 
    1)THE UPCOMING TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE of APRIL 8TH 2024, IS 6 YEARS 6 MONTHS 6 WEEKS AND 6 DAYS ( 6666) AFTER THE LAST TOTAL ECLIPSE OVER THE US IN 2017.
    RS: This is false. There are 2,422 days from August 21, 2017 to April 8, 2024, which, including two leap years (2020 and 2024) amounts to 6 years, 6 months, 7 weeks and 1 day.

    This one seems close enough.  If you take the time BETWEEN the two dates (exclusive), i.e. from 8/22/2017 - 4/7/2024, it works.  I'd just write this off because I'm not a believer in "numerology".

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #67 on: March 27, 2024, 03:09:40 PM »
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  • 2.    It also spells in Hebrew Alpha and the Omega as TAV
    RS: First, what is “It”? Second, TAV is the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet. The first letter of Hebrew is Aleph. In order to match the Greek “Alpha and Omega” the Hebrew would have to have “Aleph and Tav.” Third, Hebrew does not use acronyms, and even if it did, TAV does not mean “THE ALPHA and OMEGA,” since the Hebrew “V” does equate with the Greek ω.

    I THINK what this is a reference to is that if you add a third eclipse (from 2023), the 3 letters form an Alpha.  But the "Tav" (an X formed by the 2017 and 2024 eclipses) seems to refer to the Phoenician version of the alphabet, where Tav (drawn as an X, unlike in Hebrew) is the last letter of the Phoenician alphabet.  So I think whoever this is appears to be blending together some Hebrew and some Phoenician.


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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #68 on: March 27, 2024, 03:15:36 PM »
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  • 3.    It passes over 7 US cities named Nineveh.(Repent)  4.
    RS: That is a rumor from TikTok. There are only two places named Nineveh (Nineveh, Indiana, and Nineveh, Ohio) that will see a total solar eclipse on April 8, 2024. The other six places called Nineveh listed in the TikTok video are located outside the projected 115-mile-wide path of the moon's shadow and will experience a partial solar eclipse like every other town in the contiguous United States. And if there were any truth to the idea that a solar eclipse going through cities is a warning of judgment against them, why do the east coast and west coast of America get off Scott free – the places where most of the evil occurs in America, not the Bible Belt in the Midwest!
    4.    It also passes over 7 US cities named Salem( Peace)
    RS:  There are 32 places in the United States that have a city or town named “Salem,” and most of them (17) are outside the swath of the total eclipse of April 8, 2024.

    With Nineveh, does it matter if they're under totality or just in the path of the partial eclipse?  That's still a lot of cities by that name in the path of the eclipse (at least partial).

    With regard to Salem, 15/32 being within the swath of the eclipse seems like some pretty high odds (given the relatively narrow swath).

    I doubt this necessarily means anything by itself, but this could be read as a "sign" from God's Providence that there's judgment coming to the United States.  After all, God orders everything, including who founded these cities and where they founded them.

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #69 on: March 27, 2024, 03:21:47 PM »
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  • 6.    The X which the eclipse traces intersects over the great New Madrid fault zone
    RS: Comparison maps will show that the New Madrid fault zone is east of the path of the total solar eclipse by almost the width of Arkansas. The path of the 2024 eclipse goes from Texas to Maine, and even if we widened the path of the eclipse to include the eastern end of Arkansas, the eclipse path hits 95% of non-seismic sections of the US.
    Anyone can superimpose one eclipse path over another. It’s been done for years. NASA also did it for a partial 2023 and the upcoming 2024 eclipse, and got this map:

    I don't know.  Seems pretty spot-on to me.  Most of the "red zone" below (most damage from Last New Madrid quake in 1895, the 6.8 having been the bigger one) seems to line up pretty well here with the path of totality.




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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #70 on: March 27, 2024, 03:39:27 PM »
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  • This whole thread reminds me of the "September 2017" event. It was practically the same thing. Lots of people thought it was going to be the beginning of something major.



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    After 9 ½ months, Jupiter exits out of the womb of Virgo. Upon Jupiter’s exit (birth), on September 23, 2017, we see the constellation Virgo with the sun rise directly behind it (the woman clothed with the sun). At the feet of Virgo, we find the moon. And upon her head we find a crown of twelve stars, formed by the usual nine stars of the constellation Leo with the addition of the planets Mercury, Venus, and Mars.

    That is a truly remarkable and, as far as I can determine, unique series of events with a startling degree of concurrence with the vision of Revelation 12.

    So what does it mean, if anything? The obvious and truthful answer is that we simply do not know. That said, we are not entirely without possible context.

    It just so happens that these events transpire during the 100th anniversary of the apparitions of “the woman clothed in the sun,” Our Lady at Fatima in 1917. The culmination of these astronomical events occurs just 3 weeks before the 100th anniversary of the great miracle of Fatima, in which the sun “danced” (another heavenly sign), an event that was witnessed by many thousands.


    And again:


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    There may be a sign in the heavens, on September 23rd, 2017.  Found in Apocalypse 12:1 - taken from the Douay Rheims:   1.  And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars: [2] And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered.

    On September 23rd, 2017, the constellation Virgo will be with Leo Above her.  In Leo there are 9 stars.  Between Leo and Virgo will be mercury, mars and Venus, which will be 12 stars crowned on (just above) Virgo.  At virgos feet will be the moon, and just below the moon will be Serpens, the snake constellation.  She, Virgo, will also have at her left shoulder, on her back, the Sun, sometime on September 23rd, which will be Virgo, clothed with the sun, as Apoc. 12:1 states, also the 12 stars, and the moon at her feet, with Serpens, which coincides with Catholic traditional artwork depicting the Virgin.  According to astronomers, this is the only time during the time of Christ, that this has happened, we glean.  One more thing.... Jupiter, the largest planet in our solar system appears just below the torso of Virgo, right were a child would be delivered, and sometime around the 23rd, passes in her torso and out of her torso, the king planet, Jupiter, the biggest planet.
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    Laramie Hirsch even connected the 9/23/2017 "event" to this upcoming eclipse with a long article similar to this one, calling it the "U.S. Expiration Date".

    I would pay little attention to things like this. I'm not aware of any major event in history that was presaged by a solar eclipse and several normal movements of the planets.


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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #71 on: March 27, 2024, 03:44:49 PM »
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  • 7.    The Chinese spy balloon followed the path of the 2017 eclipse
    RS: False. The paths are very different, as one can see by the comparison maps. And what difference would it make in any case? This is just apocalyptic sensationalism at its best.

    What?  They're not even remotely "very different".  He must be confusing this with the 2024 eclipse.  At most the Chinese Balloon was a bit too far north on the Pacific Coast.  I agree with this likely being relatively meaningless.  Not sure what the Chinese hoped to accomplish by following path of the 2017 eclipse several years later.

    2017 Eclipse:


    Chinese Spy Balloon:

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #72 on: March 27, 2024, 03:51:02 PM »
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  • 12.  Unlike all previous total solar eclipses over the USA the NATIONAL GUARD is being deployed across the country some with hazmat suits to prevent 'industrial contamination.'

    RS: The National Guard is being called in some states (e.g., Oklahoma) because huge crowds are expected to watch the April 8, 2024 eclipse. They want to keep law and order, especially in the face of other uprising across the US in recent years.
    My advice? Stop listening to TikTok.

    I felt this initially myself, but there's information out there about hazmat, biological, and radiological teams being deployed and on standby.  Nothing about an eclipse would warrant such groups to be on the ready just to "keep order".  There's been some speculation that there are credible terrorist threats associated with the eclipse, since there will be many soft targets, with large groups of people gathering in places that don't have any security.  Do you really think they're expecting an "uprising"?  Will the eclipse be raining Nike shoes and big-screen TVs down upon the crowds?  If anything, they should be on the lookout for looting and "uprisings" in areas that have thinned out their law enforcement to take them closer to the path of the eclipse.  If you move your normal security away from, say, a shopping mall 300 miles from totality, to bring it closer to the path of the eclipse, those places will be LESS secure and less guarded.

    At best, a lot of additional traffic cops should be brought on scene to guide the traffic in and out of these locations, but radiological, biological, and hazmat teams?

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #73 on: March 27, 2024, 03:58:12 PM »
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  • Overall, I feel that there may be less to this than some are claiming, using fear-mongering to get extra views and likes, but there may be more to it than what Dr. Sungenis suggests also.  So it's not nothing, but it's also not likely a major doomsday event ... UNLESS they unleash some coordinated terrorist attacks in crowded places.  In addition, the very large Great Madrid quake came within a few months of another eclipse that followed the same path.  Despite the claims of modern science, we know VERY LITTLE about how our world works.  It's been well docuмented that there's a strong correlation between "CME"s and large earthquakes.  I personally believe that the majority of physics rests on electromagnetic forces (with gravity being a myth), and also believe that the sun is primarily electromagnetic (charged plasma?) in nature, not some super-dense ball of gas, the gravity of which causes fusion), and this isn't just some fringe "flat earth" belief.  One of the best physicists at Ohio State rejects the modern theories of what the sun is and how it works.  "Electric Universe" theory makes a ton more sense to me than "gravity universe" theory, which, as Kaku admits, represents the biggest mismatch between theory and observation in the history of science.  They had to invent "dark matter" in a futile last-gasp attempt to keep the wheels from coming off that wagon.  I also believe that the moon is charged plasma, and that there could be some relatively violent interaction between the sun and moon during an eclipse.  There's a reason that the ancients took eclipses as harbingers of doom.  It wasn't just "superstition" nor were the ancients idiots, as many moderns, especially the scientific establishment, try to claim.  They probably noticed things, such as how bad things actually happen after eclipses, earthquakes, tidal waves, floods, etc.  There were some strange phenomena recorded during the 2017 eclipse that make no sense given modern science's explanation of what eclipses are and how they work.

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #74 on: March 27, 2024, 05:37:27 PM »
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    This whole thread reminds me of the "September 2017" event. It was practically the same thing. Lots of people thought it was going to be the beginning of something major.
    It depends how you interpret "beginning of something major".  In man's time, when a few years go by and nothing happens, then "the sign was meaningless".  In God's time, a few years is like a blink of an eye.  His signs often portend things which *start* then but only come to fruition years and years later.

    The fact is, the 2017 event was a unique-in-all-of-history astrological event...a uniqueness agreed upon by both catholics, protestants, and even atheist scientists.  When was the last time these 3 groups of people agreed on anything?

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    I would pay little attention to things like this.
    :facepalm:  The number of FULL solar eclipses that have occurred over the US is like 5.  In 250+ years, only 5.  It's not nothing.

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    I'm not aware of any major event in history that was presaged by a solar eclipse and several normal movements of the planets.
    Mmmm...Let's see:

    1.  The Egyptian plagues during Moses' time when the river ran red and also the lightning/hail, was most probably a full solar eclipse, accompanied by a comet.
    2.  Josuah's prayer for God to extend the day and halt the setting of the sun...an event which astronomers still cannot explain and which still affects our calendar today.
    3.  Christ's birth was preceded by a unique-in-all-of-history astrological event.  Both an alignment of planets foretold a "great" king's birth and also the 'star of bethlehem' was unique and never seen before/again.
    4.  Christ's death on the cross was preceded by 3 hours of "darkness over the whole land" and earthquakes (i.e. full solar eclipse and possible earthquake-causing-comet)
    5.  Our Lady of Fatima's 'miracle of the sun' was a unique sun activity event.


    What does Scripture have to say about signs in the sky?
    And God said: Let there be lights made in the firmament of heaven, to divide the day and the night, and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years: (Genesis 1:14)

    But if they will not even believe these two signs, nor hear thy voice: take of the river water, and pour it out upon the dry land, and whatsoever thou drawest out of the river shall be turned into blood.  (Exodus 4:9)

    The exceeding great plagues, which thy eyes saw, and the signs and wonders, and the strong hand, and the stretched out arm, with which the Lord thy God brought thee out: so will he do to all the people, whom thou fearest.  (Deuteronomy 7:19)

    And I sent Moses and Aaron, and I struck Egypt with many signs and wonders. (Joshua 24:5)

    25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, by reason of the confusion of the roaring of the sea and of the waves;  (Luke 21:25)