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Title: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Matthew on March 16, 2024, 02:27:07 PM
This year, because March 25th falls during Holy Week, the Feast of the Annunciation is transferred to the first Monday after Low Sunday, or April 8th.

You know, the day of the total solar eclipse.

Our Lady and the sun once again, just like at Fatima.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: AnthonyPadua on March 16, 2024, 05:47:19 PM
This year, because March 25th falls during Holy Week, it is transferred to the first Monday after Low Sunday, or April 8th.

You know, the day of the total solar eclipse.

Our Lady and the sun once again, just like at Fatima.
Apparently it starts at a town called Jonah and ends at one with the same name.... I think that's what I heard but not 100% sure.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: SimpleMan on March 16, 2024, 07:40:15 PM
Just to clarify, this is in reference to the Annunciation.  I know we all know that, but I had to stop and think about it for a moment.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 18, 2024, 10:27:11 AM
So, another "coincidence" just occurred to me.  There's also going to be a lunar eclipse on ... March 25.

So a lunar eclipse on the ordinary Feast of the Annunciation, and a solar eclipse on the transferred-to date this year.

Sometimes there's an analogy made between Our Lord being like the sun and Our Lady like the moon (no, I'm not a sun-worshipper).

In any case, one could almost say that the Feast of the Annunciation (lunar eclipse) is giving way to April 8th (solar eclipse), while the Feast of the Annunciation is giving way to Our Lord's Passion.

Could that symbolize Our Lady giving way to Our Lord?  If you recall, Our Lady often spoke about how she's staying Our Lord's justice.  Is this a sign that she's giving way and that Our Lord's justice is about to strike the earth?

Of course, I believe this so-called "penumbral" eclipse will result in a blood-red moon, but perhaps that's just during a regular eclipse.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: SoldierofCtK on March 18, 2024, 10:54:51 AM
Pretty interesting; it's nice to hear some Catholic context about the eclipse. My coworkers are mostly trying to line up the timing to US-only events, such as grid takeover, alien reveals, and protestant eisegesis of the rapture, as if we are the center of the world, haha. We're located in the path of totality, so the local news has been hyping up the event.

Total eclipses happen about every 18 months around the world, so I wonder if it could be just another natural phenomenon on the 8th, with an artificial importance? Have other eclipses lined up with important feast days? In 2017 I remember a friend giving me a pamphlet about the Apocalypse and some celestial event regarding Virgo and the Sun, but nothing happened.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 18, 2024, 10:55:53 AM
There's also some talk of a "devil's comet" (because it has horns) appearing during the April 8 eclipse.

https://www.livescience.com/space/the-sun/exploding-green-devil-comet-could-photobomb-april-8-total-solar-eclipse-and-it-might-be-visible-with-the-naked-eye
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Matthew on March 18, 2024, 11:10:32 AM
Total eclipses happen about every 18 months around the world, so I wonder if it could be just another natural phenomenon on the 8th, with an artificial importance? Have other eclipses lined up with important feast days? In 2017 I remember a friend giving me a pamphlet about the Apocalypse and some celestial event regarding Virgo and the Sun, but nothing happened.

I'm not "predicting" anything for April 8, 2024. And yes, America is not literally the center of the world. So let's get that out of the way.

That having been said --

1. America is NOT just a spot out in the middle of the Pacific, or even "just another country". Let's be real. America is the #1 Superpower in the world, even though we're losing our edge. In the current economic system, everything is based on the US Dollar. It's why we can borrow trillions to buy whatever -- but no other country gets that privilege.

Hollywood (corrupter of the whole world) is headquartered in America. American anti-culture is headquartered in America. The you-know-whos still use America as their HQ and beachhead for conquering the rest of the world -- like they used to use Britain a couple hundred years ago. "The sun never sets on the British Empire". Sure, that favored country might change to China in the next century. But for NOW, 2024, it's still the USA.

2. Our Lady is the patroness of the Americas, including the United States.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 18, 2024, 11:16:17 AM
I'm not "predicting" anything for April 8, 2024. And yes, America is not literally the center of the world. So let's get that out of the way.

It's very likely that whatever physical chastisement occurs, the US will have their "hand" in kicking if off somehow.  While it's really the Jєωs behind everything, the US is the biggest "stick" they have to threaten people with if they run afoul of Israeli interests.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: SoldierofCtK on March 18, 2024, 11:26:01 AM
All good points, Matthew. My one co-worker is predicting everything for that day, as though he has some secret knowledge or something.

This got me thinking, though; when is the next solar eclipse in Russia? More Fatima ties, I suppose.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Matthew on March 18, 2024, 11:49:58 AM
This post inspired another thread about "Which America? the fingerprint/brand, or the people?"

https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/america-the-worst-or-the-best/
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ascetik on March 18, 2024, 12:17:57 PM
There is also this "devil's comet" which is supposed to show up on July 16th, Feast of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel: https://www.npr.org/2024/03/17/1239056873/devil-comet-solar-eclipse-12p-pons-brooks

AND on Oct 13th the supposed brightest comet in memory is closest to earth (Anniversary of the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima).
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Miseremini on March 18, 2024, 02:01:47 PM
Apparently it starts at a town called Jonah and ends at one with the same name.... I think that's what I heard but not 100% sure.
(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalnews.com%2FImages%2FMike-Adams-Circle-94x94-Lab-Coat.png&t=1710787572&ymreqid=c6e7b7b9-95b1-37a9-2c3a-a90224010000&sig=0I5Uy4nXHYFzOuVnjbdTOA--~D)Ninevah was the town of wickedness and evil, where the prophet Jonah was sent by God to issue a warning. The town repented and was initially spared God's destruction.
On April 8th, a rare total solar eclipse will traverse North America, casting its shadow across 7 towns named "Ninevah" in various US states.
Many people believe this solar eclipse may portend a final warning for America to end its wicked ways and repent for its sins or face the wrath of God.
Is that why multiple counties in Texas have issued emergency declarations, telling residents to prepare with extra food, water and essential supplies?
Get the full coverage -- plus a hard-hitting new interview with Majory Wildcraft about growing food during the "wartime home front" battle across the USA -- in today's Brighteon Broadcast News here: https://www.brighteon.com/channels/hrreport (https://ce-publiclw.naturalnews.com/ct.asp?id=131EAF401F5E7C2C2DD3252AAA25FB0C229FA487D5482C627FB4FD286E7E11BEE72CA03CBFADA399D082CF3205A7CC5BFD66C2F261D3E9C5CF3F74D8A1CF122A&ct=4aeUsysAAABCWmgzMUFZJlNZAeOFXAAACRmAAAGAEDrn3IAgADFMmJkGRhU9TYQPVPU9qEKKdORdHJkPLNNWxOFKRFDJi7P6bDou5IpwoSADxwq4)


There are 7 places named Nineveh in America.
Location Nineveh:




Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Matthew on March 18, 2024, 02:28:31 PM
Again, who -- what soul -- is guilty of "America's" sins?

If we reset the scale so that the average American's sins are a 1, then almost all other countries would be a 2, 5, or even a 10.
(We're talking about dividing each side by infinity, because even one sin is an infinite offense, because God is infinite) That's why I say it's a 'scale".

The average American's sins are tame by comparison to the rest of the world. Certainly the level of malice has to be lower. An apostate is *always* worse than someone who was never Catholic. That rules out all of Europe right there.

So where do the very REAL evils come from? I don't deny ANY of the evils that come from the country called America. Even in the early 1900's America put its weight behind the persecutors of the Cristeros. And how many South American Catholic countries became freemasonic atheistic republics thanks to America's military might and influence?

And of course there's America's partnership with Is---l, its support and export of Abortion throughout the world, etc.

But that's a few individuals, mostly with a certain kind of nose. Not the average American on the street.


Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 22, 2024, 09:38:50 AM
I wonder how researchers so accurately predict the path of totality since they assume that the Earth is a globe? :laugh1:
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Matthew on March 22, 2024, 09:58:19 AM
How can scientists accomplish anything while believing something so fundamentally wrong as "something can come from nothing" molecules-to-man Big Bang evolution?
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 22, 2024, 10:08:00 AM
I wonder how researchers so accurately predict the path of totality since they assume that the Earth is a globe? :laugh1:

You seem to keep missing this point, so I'll try again.  You can do the math to calculate the movement based on any coordinate system.  Even Einstein admitted this.  People were predicting and calculating eclipses (their paths) long before the modern cosmology was put in place, when people claimed initially that the sun was 1 million miles from earth, or 5 million, or the 10 other guesstimates they had before they settled on the current guess.  None of the relative positioning matters to be able to do the math based on observations.


:jester:

You still haven't explained (and never will) why independent photographers have regularly taken long-distance photographs of objects that should be hidden by many miles of putative curvature.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 22, 2024, 10:12:33 AM
How can scientists accomplish anything while believing something so fundamentally wrong as "something can come from nothing" molecules-to-man Big Bang evolution?

Remember, scientists, even in ancient times, have accurately predicted eclipses and their paths of totality and they ALL used the assumption that the Earth is a globe (not snow globe).

It is *impossible* to make these predictions using a FE model.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 22, 2024, 10:13:38 AM
Remember, scientists, even in ancient times, have accurately predicted eclipses and their paths of totality and they ALL used the assumption that the Earth is a globe (not snow globe).

It is *impossible* to make these predictions using a FE model.

Garbage.  They did not ALL assume the earth was a globe, and in fact they had no clue about how far the sun and moon were from the earth.  None of that matters.  You can work the math either way.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 22, 2024, 10:19:29 AM
If you take this Mercator view of the path and bend it more into the FE/Gleasons model, or even on a globe, it's basically a straight line.

(https://dq0hsqwjhea1.cloudfront.net/21-Aug-2017-600px.jpg)

Of course, in the Northern Hemisphere, it matters nothing whether the curve is globular or a flat curve, since the amount of curvature across a 2 day plane would be very similar.

You'd have to look at Southern Hemisphere eclipses to see which model makes more sense.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 22, 2024, 10:28:00 AM
You seem to keep missing this point, so I'll try again.  You can do the math to calculate the movement based on any coordinate system.  Even Einstein admitted this.  People were predicting and calculating eclipses (their paths) long before the modern cosmology was put in place, when people claimed initially that the sun was 1 million miles from earth, or 5 million, or the 10 other guesstimates they had before they settled on the current guess.  None of the relative positioning matters to be able to do the math based on observations.


:jester:

You still haven't explained (and never will) why independent photographers have regularly taken long-distance photographs of objects that should be hidden by many miles of putative curvature.


You do realize that what you wrote here is fluff and nonsense?

Repeat after me: it is absolutely impossible to predict the path of totality using a FE model.


Confirmation bias! :laugh1:

Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 22, 2024, 10:28:30 AM
If you take this Mercator view of the path and bend it more into the FE/Gleasons model, or even on a globe, it's basically a straight line.

(https://dq0hsqwjhea1.cloudfront.net/21-Aug-2017-600px.jpg)

Of course, in the Northern Hemisphere, it matters nothing whether the curve is globular or a flat curve, since the amount of curvature across a 2 day plane would be very similar.

You'd have to look at Southern Hemisphere eclipses to see which model makes more sense.


You aren’t serious are you?

:jester::jester::jester:
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 22, 2024, 10:30:02 AM
Repeat after me: it is absolutely impossible to predict the path of totality using a FE model.

Confirmation bias! :laugh1:

You just exposed yourself to be both biased and an ignoramus.  It was the Babylonians who first developed the math to predict eclipses and their paths, and they had a Flat Earth cosmology.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 22, 2024, 12:29:40 PM
You just exposed yourself to be both biased and an ignoramus.  It was the Babylonians who first developed the math to predict eclipses and their paths, and they had a Flat Earth cosmology.

You nor any of your followers can’t even give a remotely plausible explanation on how the Sun rises and sets with a FE, and you want people to believe that you can predict eclipses and their paths! :jester:

That is truly rich!
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 22, 2024, 01:48:06 PM
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Remember, scientists, even in ancient times, have accurately predicted eclipses and their paths of totality and they ALL used the assumption that the Earth is a globe (not snow globe).

It is *impossible* to make these predictions using a FE model.
:confused:  Not true at all.

The modern globe theory originates with the Greeks, and Pythagorus, etc, who worshipped the sun and all of the same freemasonic imagery.  This was 500 BC-ish.  The Greeks were pedos, pagans, and tried to eradicate the Israelites religion, which only survived due to the Maccabees. 

The Egyptian pyramids, which predate the Greeks by 1,000s of years, accurately line up with the constellations and planets.  There's no evidence the Egyptians believed in heliocentrism or a globe earth.  And there's all kinds of evidence they believed in a global flood (i.e. Noah) and the "waters from the deep" and the "firmament" which caused such.

And, yes, *some* periods of Egyptians worshipped the sun-god, but this was in the later stages of their civilization (i.e. the decay period).  The pyramids were built during their early periods of advanced civilization (you won't hear that from the anti-catholic historians/archeologists), and some say represent the Trinity and line up with the constellations which foretold the coming Savior.  The early periods of their civilization they were not pluralistic in theology but mono-theistic, most likely this was when Holy Joseph of the Old Testament was in charge and gave them a Godly culture.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 22, 2024, 02:16:41 PM
:confused:  Not true at all.

The modern globe theory originates with the Greeks, and Pythagorus, etc, who worshipped the sun and all of the same freemasonic imagery.  This was 500 BC-ish.  The Greeks were pedos, pagans, and tried to eradicate the Israelites religion, which only survived due to the Maccabees. 

The Egyptian pyramids, which predate the Greeks by 1,000s of years, accurately line up with the constellations and planets.  There's no evidence the Egyptians believed in heliocentrism or a globe earth.  And there's all kinds of evidence they believed in a global flood (i.e. Noah) and the "waters from the deep" and the "firmament" which caused such.

And, yes, *some* periods of Egyptians worshipped the sun-god, but this was in the later stages of their civilization (i.e. the decay period).  The pyramids were built during their early periods of advanced civilization (you won't hear that from the anti-catholic historians/archeologists), and some say represent the Trinity and line up with the constellations which foretold the coming Savior.  The early periods of their civilization they were not pluralistic in theology but mono-theistic, most likely this was when Holy Joseph of the Old Testament was in charge and gave them a Godly culture.


Do you really believe that what you wrote here is in any sense an argument against what I stated?

Give a single FE model, snow globe or otherwise, that can accurately predict the eclipse and it’s path that is going to occur on April 8th. 
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 22, 2024, 02:40:12 PM
Any situation where you have repeating, aka periodic, movements, they can be calculated mathematically.  In the case of eclipses you have two sets of periodic movements that are independent to one another, 1) that of the sun and 2) that of the moon.  When those periodic movements intersect is when you get eclipses.  It doesn't matter whether the moon is 263,00 miles away and the sun is 93.000,000 miles away or whether you don't know the distances or whether you had them "wrong", such as when it the distance of the sun has been revised at least a dozen times, or when first they claimed that the orbit of the earth around the sun was a perfect circle and then changed it to elliptical.  None of that matters, as long as there's repetition and a consistent repetition over time, they can be calculated.

Babylonians, who had a Flat Earth cosmology, were the first to predict eclipses using the Saros cycle, which can then be extrapolated to different places on earth to get the "path" of the eclipse as well.  That's probably why the ancients had these solar observatories everywhere, things like Stonehenge, the pyramids, all kinds of megalithic strucutres, which were all solar/lunar observatories.

Being able to mathematically predict eclipses and their paths has absolutely nothing to do with the physical shape and dimensions of the universe, as the modern dimensions are relatively recent.  Early Greeks had it at 1 million miles away, then it became 5, then it was 20, then 50, then 100, and finally settled on 93, to which was added an elliptical dimension so that it now allegedly varies between 91.4 and 94.5.  And yet throughout all this, they continued to accurately predict eclipses.  Why?  Because of what I wrote above.  With repeating cycles of movement, i.e. periodicity, with the moon and the sun, you can do the math.  Babylonians came up with the Saros cycle, which involves some extremely complex math, and this was used to accurately predict eclipses until the most modern times.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 22, 2024, 02:45:00 PM
You nor any of your followers can’t even give a remotely plausible explanation on how the Sun rises and sets with a FE, and you want people to believe that you can predict eclipses and their paths! :jester:

That is truly rich!

Ah, here you go with this "followers" crap again.  Nothing but strings of ad hominems and ridicule.

This response, and all your responses on this thread demonstrate your full intellectual capacity when it comes to thinking about this subject, or, rather, refusing to think about it.

Not only has the rising and the setting of the sun been repeatedly explained by Flat Earthers, but if I knew the mathematical formula of the Saros cycle, I could in fact predict eclipses.  I just don't personally know it.  But it was used until relatively recent times to predict eclipses ... by people that do know the formula.

Simply Google the Babylonians and the Saros cycle.  Babylonians had an FE cosmology.

But I've mentioned this several times to have you simply ignore it or respond with :jester:.  Why?  Because it's all you've got.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 22, 2024, 02:52:43 PM
https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/2017-08-21/ty-article/how-ancient-babylonians-could-have-predicted-the-2017-eclipse/0000017f-e22d-d38f-a57f-e67f30ac0000

... though a bit dated to the 2017 eclipse, you could say the same thing about 2024.

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How Ancient Babylonians Could Have Predicted the 2017 Eclipse

Though they believed the disappearing sun was a sign of divine wrath, Babylonians were already calculating the probability of eclipses 4,000 years ago

Ancient Babylonians living almost 4,000 years ago could have predicted Monday's total solar eclipse.

In fact the ancient Babylonians were the fathers of modern astronomy. They could track and predict the relative movements of the sun and moon, and even those of the Solar System planets that they recognized, Venus and Mercury.

Absent computer technology, they did it the old-fashioned way: by keeping records over generations, and noticing patterns. And doing math. Cuneiform tablets found in Babylonia and Uruk show they could predict the position of celestial bodies using advanced geometric techniques that westerners had thought were invented in 14th-century Europe.

Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 22, 2024, 03:12:12 PM
Ah, here you go with this "followers" crap again.  Nothing but strings of ad hominems and ridicule.




What a hypocrite! Apparently you don’t even understand what an ad hominem is. :facepalm:

You just exposed yourself to be both biased and an ignoramus”….. Ladislaus 
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Aleah on March 22, 2024, 03:31:05 PM
Does anyone have an opinion concerning Saint Albert the Great and his mathematical calculation of a spherical earth?
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 22, 2024, 03:49:51 PM
What a hypocrite! Apparently you don’t even understand what an ad hominem is. :facepalm:

You just exposed yourself to be both biased and an ignoramus”….. Ladislaus

Lean how to read, moron, I said NOTHING BUT ad hominems, meaning that you have not made a single substantial statement.  I've made numerous posts of substance to which you respond with nothing but crap like this post.  You're just continuing the same thing with this post.  You can't refute or rebut any of the points I've made, so this here typifies your last 7 or 8 posts.  You are the one who evidently 1) don't understand what an ad hominem is and 2) can't even read English.  And the above was a factual statement, where your posts betray both bias and gross ignorance of the matter.  Difference between our posts is that I substantiate my charge of bias and ignorance.

For your information, the term ad hominem is not simply a synonym for "insults".  Rather, it's a logical fallacy where you distract from the substance of an argument by making personal attacks, i.e. present insults IN LIEU of actual arguments.  I've made plenty of them, and to each one you respond with a personal attack as if that somehow constitutes a refutation.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 22, 2024, 03:54:38 PM
My comments in red:


Any situation where you have repeating, aka periodic, movements, they can be calculated mathematically.  In the case of eclipses you have two sets of periodic movements that are independent to one another, 1) that of the sun and 2) that of the moon.  When those periodic movements intersect is when you get eclipses.  It doesn't matter whether the moon is 263,00 miles away and the sun is 93.000,000 miles away or whether you don't know the distances or whether you had them "wrong", such as when it the distance of the sun has been revised at least a dozen times, or when first they claimed that the orbit of the earth around the sun was a perfect circle and then changed it to elliptical.  None of that matters, as long as there's repetition and a consistent repetition over time, they can be calculated.


Absolutely agree! 

Babylonians, who had a Flat Earth cosmology, were the first to predict eclipses using the Saros cycle, which can then be extrapolated to different places on earth to get the "path" of the eclipse as well.  That's probably why the ancients had these solar observatories everywhere, things like Stonehenge, the pyramids, all kinds of megalithic strucutres, which were all solar/lunar observatories.

Here is your problem. Even if I were to concede the point that those who predicted eclipses also believed that the Earth was flat, 1) you need to understand that they had no idea the size or shape of the land masses or oceans of the Earth. 2) Out of logical necessity they were forced to believe that the Sun revolved around them. This is NOT what modern day FEers believe. What you people believe is purely illogical. This is precisely why it is *impossible* for modern day FEers to predict eclipses and more importantly their paths. When it comes to the movements of the Sun and Moon, you people are more primitive than the Babylonians. 

This is exactly why I’ve been asking you for a FE model. The idea that the Sun and Moon rotate above a flat surface cannot be reconciled with reality and cannot be used to predict eclipses. The only chance for your system to work is if God preformed a daily miracle, but it seems to me that God wouldn’t work in this manner.

Being able to mathematically predict eclipses and their paths has absolutely nothing to do with the physical shape and dimensions of the universe, as the modern dimensions are relatively recent.  Early Greeks had it at 1 million miles away, then it became 5, then it was 20, then 50, then 100, and finally settled on 93, to which was added an elliptical dimension so that it now allegedly varies between 91.4 and 94.5.  And yet throughout all this, they continued to accurately predict eclipses.  Why?  Because of what I wrote above.  With repeating cycles of movement, i.e. periodicity, with the moon and the sun, you can do the math.  Babylonians came up with the Saros cycle, which involves some extremely complex math, and this was used to accurately predict eclipses until the most modern times.

You are preaching to the choir.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 22, 2024, 04:05:33 PM
Lean how to read, moron, I said NOTHING BUT ad hominems, meaning that you have not made a single substantial statement.  I've made numerous posts of substance to which you respond with nothing but crap like this post.  You're just continuing the same thing with this post.  You can't refute or rebut any of the points I've made, so this here typifies your last 7 or 8 posts.  You are the one who evidently 1) don't understand what an ad hominem is and 2) can't even read English.  And the above was a factual statement, where your posts betray both bias and gross ignorance of the matter.  Difference between our posts is that I substantiate my charge of bias and ignorance.

For your information, the term ad hominem is not simply a synonym for "insults".  Rather, it's a logical fallacy where you distract from the substance of an argument by making personal attacks, i.e. present insults IN LIEU of actual arguments.  I've made plenty of them, and to each one you respond with a personal attack as if that somehow constitutes a refutation.


Keep it classy, Lad.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 22, 2024, 04:11:33 PM
It's very difficult to respond to posts when you put them inside the quotation.

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Here is your problem. Even if I were to concede the point that those who predicted eclipses also believed that the Earth was flat, 1) you need to understand that they had no idea the size or shape of the land masses or oceans of the Earth. 2) Out of logical necessity they were forced to believe that the Sun revolved around them. This is NOT what modern day FEers believe. What you people believe is purely illogical. This is precisely why it is *impossible* for modern day FEers to predict eclipses and more importantly their paths. When it comes to the movements of the Sun and Moon, you people are more primitive than the Babylonians.

This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.  Modern FEs could (if they learned the formula) predict eclipses every bit as well as the Babylonians did.

Please explain how modern FE is somehow completely different from the Babylonian cosmology.  You just made that up, just like you've made up dozens of other straw men about "what FEs believe or think" when you clearly have no clue, as you've never studied it.  There's nothing substantially different between modern FE and the Babylonian cosmology.

You are the one, out of crass ignorance, who claimed that it is impossible to believe in FE and yet predict eclipses.  Babylonians were FEs and they predicted eclipses.  You don't have to believe in the globe nor know its dimensions and proportions to be able to predict eclipses.

This scuttles the entire point of your absurd argument, or, rather, what you try to pass off as an argument ... which is that it's only because of the modern believe in the globe that the scientific establishment can predict eclipses.

Your argument is destroyed, but you keep grasping at this straw and refusing to admit it.

MAJOR:  Only by applying the principles of globular cosmology can you predict eclipses.
MINOR:  Babylonians did not have a globular cosmology (believed in FE) and yet came up with the math to predict eclipses.
CONCLUSION:  Prediction of eclipses does not prove globular cosmology.

It's that simple, but you'll keep spouting off absurdly about your "model".

This has been splained to you 15 different ways, that your contention that there's no FE model proves globe earth is a logical absurdity.  Globe earth model is falsified by mountains of evidence.  So you need to propose a different model.  FEs have proposed one.  Where's your model now that the globe earth has been falsified?  This is the grossest form of "false dichotomy" where you assume that because the FEs don't have a model that suits you (rejecting your claim from ignorance that we have none), that the globe model must be true.  It's possible that both models are false.

You absolutely refuse to address the evidence that falsifies the globe model (at least a globe with the circuмference that we're told it has).  You're free now to propose a new model, perhaps a globe that's 1000 times greater in circuмference than what we're told, that would make sense of the evidence.  That's how the scientific method works.  If one model gets falsified, then you propose a new one and then test it against evidence and observation.  Then that model could be falsified and would have to be amended or discarded also, while you go in search of an alternative hypothesis, a model that better explains the evidence.  While putting your faith in the modern scientific establishment ("trust the science"), there's nothing more unscientific than the glober approach, where you assume the truth of the globe, ignore the evidence that falsifies it in order to keep clinging to it, and refusing to entertain alternative hypotheses.  That's the complete opposite of any scientific method.

Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 22, 2024, 04:13:01 PM
Keep it classy, Lad.

No, it's true that you're a moron.  You misinterpret and misread my statements to hurl accusations against me.  What part of "nothing but ad hominems" didn't you comprehend?  It's basic English, buddy, and you warp my statement to attack me personally, so it's fair to expose your stupidity in the interests of demonstrating how your accusations are groundless, in addition to your arguments being non-existent.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 22, 2024, 04:39:08 PM
No, it's true that you're a moron.  You misinterpret and misread my statements to hurl accusations against me.  What part of "nothing but ad hominems" didn't you comprehend?  It's basic English, buddy, and you warp my statement to attack me personally, so it's fair to expose your stupidity in the interests of demonstrating how your accusations are groundless, in addition to your arguments being non-existent.

Ignore.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 22, 2024, 05:45:44 PM

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Here is your problem. Even if I were to concede the point that those who predicted eclipses also believed that the Earth was flat, 1) you need to understand that they had no idea the size or shape of the land masses or oceans of the Earth. 2) Out of logical necessity they were forced to believe that the Sun revolved around them. This is NOT what modern day FEers believe.
One point at a time, man.  Quit moving the goalposts.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Michelle on March 22, 2024, 06:19:25 PM
Again, who -- what soul -- is guilty of "America's" sins?

If we reset the scale so that the average American's sins are a 1, then almost all other countries would be a 2, 5, or even a 10.
(We're talking about dividing each side by infinity, because even one sin is an infinite offense, because God is infinite) That's why I say it's a 'scale".

The average American's sins are tame by comparison to the rest of the world. Certainly the level of malice has to be lower. An apostate is *always* worse than someone who was never Catholic. That rules out all of Europe right there.

So where do the very REAL evils come from? I don't deny ANY of the evils that come from the country called America. Even in the early 1900's America put its weight behind the persecutors of the Cristeros. And how many South American Catholic countries became freemasonic atheistic republics thanks to America's military might and influence?

And of course there's America's partnership with Is---l, its support and export of Abortion throughout the world, etc.

But that's a few individuals, mostly with a certain kind of nose. Not the average American on the 

 If you scale sins according to the commandments, The first three Commandments refer to sins committed directly toward God himself.  A simple observation reveals that hardly anyone in the United States keeps them.  Protestants make up their own versions of Christ and false Christs abound here in the United States.  Only traditional Catholics worship God as He commanded.  Sundays in the US are just another work and shopping day.  And of course, we hear people take Our Lord's name in vain and blaspheme all the time.  Abortion falls under the fifth Commandment.  I would bet that most souls in hell never committed an abortion and while on earth, would have been horrified by the thought.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 22, 2024, 08:21:06 PM
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Even if I were to concede the point that those who predicted eclipses also believed that the Earth was flat, 1) you need to understand that they had no idea the size or shape of the land masses or oceans of the Earth.
Your point is irrelevant.  One does not need to know such distances, if one is calculating "heavenly movements" based on constellations. 

It's a lie of modern science that constellations/sun/moon move according to the heliocentric theory.  The fact is, ignoring both geo or helio, the constellations move in a way that allows calculations/predictions of various heavenly bodies.

Which is why ancient Egyptians (i.e. 2,000 BC) were able to build pyramids to predict the planetary alignment of Christ's birth, etc.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: AnthonyPadua on March 22, 2024, 10:22:49 PM
Your point is irrelevant.  One does not need to know such distances, if one is calculating "heavenly movements" based on constellations. 

It's a lie of modern science that constellations/sun/moon move according to the heliocentric theory.  The fact is, ignoring both geo or helio, the constellations move in a way that allows calculations/predictions of various heavenly bodies.

Which is why ancient Egyptians (i.e. 2,000 BC) were able to build pyramids to predict the planetary alignment of Christ's birth, etc.
This thread from you and lad is the first time i've heard of this. Can you tell me more? It is also interesting to think that St. Joseph (OT) helped them with this.

Also you and lad are making good points exposing QVD's bias. 
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: AnthonyPadua on March 22, 2024, 10:59:34 PM
This thread from you and lad is the first time i've heard of this. Can you tell me more? It is also interesting to think that St. Joseph (OT) helped them with this.

Also you and lad are making good points exposing QVD's bias.

What I should really say, is that the things you guys mention what I understand but am unable to articulate it well.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: AMDGJMJ on March 23, 2024, 05:16:58 AM
Which is why ancient Egyptians (i.e. 2,000 BC) were able to build pyramids to predict the planetary alignment of Christ's birth, etc.
I thought that the pyramids were based off of the stars (and their predictions of eclipses as well).  I think I remember hearing that the North Star was particularly important in the alignment of one of their great pyramids.  (They were Sun and star worshipers after all.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_astronomy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_astronomy)

Eratosthenes was Egyptian (he lived around 200) and was one of the first to do many measurements of the earth according to a spherical shape.  It would be interesting to know more of his works.

Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 23, 2024, 05:20:20 AM
Your point is irrelevant.  One does not need to know such distances, if one is calculating "heavenly movements" based on constellations. 

It's a lie of modern science that constellations/sun/moon move according to the heliocentric theory.  The fact is, ignoring both geo or helio, the constellations move in a way that allows calculations/predictions of various heavenly bodies.

Which is why ancient Egyptians (i.e. 2,000 BC) were able to build pyramids to predict the planetary alignment of Christ's birth, etc.


No one has mentioned constellations yet, let’s stick with eclipses for now.

What FEers need to do is demonstrate how solar eclipses work and are predicted on a modern FE model. The path of an eclipse should also be easily demonstrated. This is a legitimate question. My main stumbling block to accepting Geocentrism was my erroneous assumption that eclipses couldn’t be predicted accurately using the Geocentric model. When it was demonstrated to me that my notion was wrong, I embraced Geocentrism. Unfortunately FEers have way more problems than just eclipses, but I’m willing to concede that point if you can show me how it works.

I can’t neglect another insurmountable problem FEers have with eclipses, it is the fact that the Moon cannot be a *translucent* disk made of plasma. In other words, it can’t be “see through” and at the same time block the Sun totally. Just the fact alone that the Moon is a solid sphere that is easily visible by anyone who has $50 to spend on an inexpensive telescope, disproves that nonsense. It boggles my mind how none of you are willing to do anything, any experiment on your own to confirm the supposed “proofs” of a flat Earth.

I need to ignore Ladislaus on this issue for a while since he’s not willing to admit he is ever wrong on any point and is extremely unreasonable. When he buys a telescope and gives his testimony, backed by photographic evidence, that the Moon is a translucent disk made of plasma or is willing to admit he’s wrong, I’ll be willing to listen to him. BTW: he can use NASA photos for photographic evidence since those photos will be exactly what he will see through his telescope.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 23, 2024, 05:26:25 AM
I thought that the pyramids were based off of the stars (and their predictions of eclipses as well).  I think I remember hearing that the North Star was particularly important in the alignment of one of their great pyramids.  (They were Sun and star worshipers after all.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_astronomy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_astronomy)

Eratosthenes was Egyptian (he lived around 200) and was one of the first to do many measurements of the earth according to a spherical shape.  It would be interesting to know more of his works.


Sorry AMDGJMJ, they just ignore any scientific evidence that doesn’t support their conclusion due to their confirmation bias.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 23, 2024, 05:59:05 AM
Just to clear up a misconception that Ladislaus is promoting about the Saros Cycle that his fellow Flat Earthers debunked: https://flatearth.ws/saros-cycle

(https://i.imgur.com/aaLvfRB.jpeg)

“Saros is a period of 6585⅓ days separating the occurrence of two eclipses. One Saros after an eclipse, a similar eclipse will occur. The eclipses that belong to the same cycle are grouped in a Saros Series.
Flat-Earthers claim that we can only predict eclipses using the Saros Cycle. In reality, it is impossible to determine many characteristics of an eclipse from its Saros Cycle alone.

A long time ago, Babylonians carefully maintained records of the occurrence of eclipses and used these records to predict future eclipses. To honor that, in 1691, Edmond Halley named the period of the cycle using a Babylonian unit of time of the “Saros.”
NASA explained the Saros in a web page titled Eclipses and the Saros (https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEsaros/SEsaros.html), and some flat-Earthers were quick to devise a conspiracy theory. They invented the scenario that NASA —a space agency with billions of dollars of a budget— are somehow using ancient technology to predict the occurrences of an eclipse. In reality, NASA does not use the Saros Cycle to predict eclipses.
Today, the Saros Cycle is used to group eclipses. The eclipses in the same Saros Cycle are grouped in the same “Saros Series.” A Saros Series is sequentially numbered to identify it, not unlike the way we identify a year with a number.
These days, predicting eclipses are not done using the Saros Cycle. The Saros Cycle cannot predict the time and duration within the accuracy of a second. It also can never be used to determine the path of totality in a solar eclipse.
At any time, there are multiple active Saros Series. During a Saros Series, unrelated eclipses from different Saros Series will occur many times. We cannot predict an eclipse from the occurrence of another eclipse that belongs to another Saros Series.
Eventually, a Saros Series will end, and there will no longer be another eclipse from the same Saros Series. And the eclipse that starts a Saros Series cannot be determined using the Saros Cycle.”

Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 23, 2024, 06:29:30 AM
Remember, scientists, even in ancient times, have accurately predicted eclipses and their paths of totality and they ALL used the assumption that the Earth is a globe (not snow globe).

It is *impossible* to make these predictions using a FE model.

I retract the “ALL” and “impossible” part of my statement, assuming that the Babylonians astronomers did indeed believe the Earth was flat. The Saros Cycle was based on timing. I was correct that their accuracy was not perfect and they couldn’t predict the path.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on March 23, 2024, 08:14:29 AM
My friend sent me this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-m_aCqnhoA
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 23, 2024, 07:56:32 PM

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Eratosthenes was Egyptian (he lived around 200) and was one of the first to do many measurements of the earth according to a spherical shape. 
He was Greek and he lived around the 200sBC.  Im talking about 2,300 years EARLIER, the people who actually built the pyramids.  
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 23, 2024, 07:59:15 PM

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No one has mentioned constellations yet, let’s stick with eclipses for now.
:confused:  It’s all part of the same system of study.  Stars, constellations, planets, eclipses — the ancient peoples studied it all as one, coherent system.  
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: OABrownson1876 on March 23, 2024, 09:18:14 PM
And the eclipse occurs in the constellation of Aries, the ram, the male lamb.  Aries is ruled the planet Mars (war).  It is also April 8, the feast day of St. Julie Billiart (1816), the courageous nun who stood strong against the godless revolutionaries during the French Revolution.  The Epistle that day is from Is. 7:10, "Ask a sign of the Lord...His name shall be called Emmanuel."  And the Gospel is the story of the archangel Gabriel coming to our Lady.  And the Offertory Verse,

"Take courage, and now fear not: for behold our God will bring judgment.  He Himself will come and will save us."  
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Marulus Fidelis on March 24, 2024, 04:49:30 AM
I thought that the pyramids were based off of the stars (and their predictions of eclipses as well).  I think I remember hearing that the North Star was particularly important in the alignment of one of their great pyramids.  (They were Sun and star worshipers after all.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_astronomy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_astronomy)

Eratosthenes was Egyptian (he lived around 200) and was one of the first to do many measurements of the earth according to a spherical shape.  It would be interesting to know more of his works.
Eratosthenes assumed the Earth was a sphere, assumed the sun rays came parallel to the ground, and based on those false assumptions calculated what the Earth's circuмference would be if it were a ball.

His experiment is perfectly consistent with the assumption of a local Sun and rays coming in at an angle at the sticks.

If you're interested in the topic of FE you should check out Taboo Conspiracy's channel.

Nonsense like the idea that Eratosthenes somehow proved the Earth is a ball has been refuted ages ago but globers refuse to acknowledge it.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: AMDGJMJ on March 24, 2024, 05:23:10 AM
He was Greek and he lived around the 200sBC.  Im talking about 2,300 years EARLIER, the people who actually built the pyramids. 
My apologies.  I assumed he was Egyptian because he was the director of Library of Alexandria.

I knew that you were talking about the ancient Egyptians.  I just came across him while looking some things up.  He was placed in Egypt and I hadn't heard much about him before.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 24, 2024, 05:59:31 AM
Eratosthenes assumed the Earth was a sphere, assumed the sun rays came parallel to the ground, and based on those false assumptions calculated what the Earth's circuмference would be if it were a ball.

His experiment is perfectly consistent with the assumption of a local Sun and rays coming in at an angle at the sticks.

If you're interested in the topic of FE you should check out Taboo Conspiracy's channel.

Nonsense like the idea that Eratosthenes somehow proved the Earth is a ball has been refuted ages ago but globers refuse to acknowledge it.

Can you explain how he was wrong?
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Marulus Fidelis on March 24, 2024, 09:16:57 AM
Can you explain how he was wrong?
I already did, the experiment is begging the question by assuming an infinitely far way Sun.

But here's more if you're interested.

https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Eratosthenes-Experiment-Debunks-Flat-Earth-:3

https://odysee.com/@NO_EYES_ON_ME:2/Moonlight-Disproves-Eratosthenes'-Shadow-Experiment,-since-i:a

In summary, taking into account the Moon's shadows, we see Eratosthenes actually leads us again to the inescapable conclusion of a flat and stationary plane.

QvD you (I think) keep claiming FE can't explain this or that, well, the globe can't even explain shadows :laugh2:
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: MiracleOfTheSun on March 24, 2024, 09:42:46 AM
Interesting video about the moon.  No one really mentions its shadows produce the same effect from such a local position.  
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 24, 2024, 03:56:02 PM
I already did, the experiment is begging the question by assuming an infinitely far way Sun.

But here's more if you're interested.

https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Eratosthenes-Experiment-Debunks-Flat-Earth-:3

https://odysee.com/@NO_EYES_ON_ME:2/Moonlight-Disproves-Eratosthenes'-Shadow-Experiment,-since-i:a

In summary, taking into account the Moon's shadows, we see Eratosthenes actually leads us again to the inescapable conclusion of a flat and stationary plane.

QvD you (I think) keep claiming FE can't explain this or that, well, the globe can't even explain shadows :laugh2:


Thanks for the videos. I watched the first video and the first problem that I saw with the presenter’s theory was his belief that, due to the apparent divergence of crepuscular rays, this is proof that the Sun must be less than a few thousand miles above the Earth’s surface.

Crepuscular rays are in fact *parallel* and *not* divergent. This is demonstrated not only by examples of perspective, but also by the rare phenomenon of anti crepuscular rays. See examples below:




(https://i.imgur.com/EMVD6zG.jpeg)


(https://i.imgur.com/KKANX89.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ctXkuRt.png)



(https://i.imgur.com/zWictbp.jpeg)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 24, 2024, 04:08:29 PM

This is a good video explaining crepuscular rays:

https://youtu.be/cTPLqbl-HGY?feature=shared
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 24, 2024, 04:10:11 PM
I retract the “ALL” and “impossible” part of my statement, assuming that the Babylonians astronomers did indeed believe the Earth was flat. The Saros Cycle was based on timing. I was correct that their accuracy was not perfect and they couldn’t predict the path.

I believe that Babylonians COULD have tracked eclipses using the Saros cycle ... IF they had more data, readings/observations from different places, since their predictions of eclipses were for those that they could see.

In any case, the bottom line is that if you have enough data and do enough math, you can calculate any kind of recurring, periodic movements, even if from different coordinate systems.

You had Tycho Brahe with his geocentric-based Tychonic circles, and most planetarium software is actually geocentric.

In the end it doesn't matter whether the sun and the moon are the same size (roughly, as  many FE conceive of them) or whether the sun is four times as large and four times farther away (such as when Greek astronomers, who also predicted eclipses, consider it to be a million miles away) or 400 times as large and 400 times farther away, as those amount to the same thing.

If you have enough data points, e.g. readings / observations, and do enough math, you can predict anything that has a regular geometric / periodic / recurring movement.

There are some anomalies that are not fully explained with regard to modern science's claims about how eclipses happen, so their model is far from perfect either.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 24, 2024, 04:16:13 PM
I believe that Babylonians COULD have tracked eclipses using the Saros cycle ... IF they had more data, readings/observations from different places, since their predictions of eclipses were for those that they could see.

In any case, the bottom line is that if you have enough data and do enough math, you can calculate any kind of recurring, periodic movements, even if from different coordinate systems.

You had Tycho Brahe with his geocentric-based Tychonic circles, and most planetarium software is actually geocentric.

In the end it doesn't matter whether the sun and the moon are the same size (roughly, as  many FE conceive of them) or whether the sun is four times as large and four times farther away (such as when Greek astronomers, who also predicted eclipses, consider it to be a million miles away) or 400 times as large and 400 times farther away, as those amount to the same thing.

If you have enough data points, e.g. readings / observations, and do enough math, you can predict anything that has a regular geometric / periodic / recurring movement.

There are some anomalies that are not fully explained with regard to modern science's claims about how eclipses happen, so their model is far from perfect either.

Lad, sorry if I was rude to you in any way. My apologies.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 24, 2024, 04:25:24 PM


There are some anomalies that are not fully explained with regard to modern science's claims about how eclipses happen, so their model is far from perfect either.

I disagree, their accuracy seems to be exceptional. As I live in an area that borders on the path of totality, as long as the sky is clear, I plan on testing their timing and accuracy of path. You can probably do the same thing. 
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 24, 2024, 04:36:48 PM
I disagree, their accuracy seems to be exceptional. As I live in an area that borders on the path of totality, as long as the sky is clear, I plan on testing their timing and accuracy of path. You can probably do the same thing.

Selenelion eclipses, regular occurences explained away as "refraction" but could not otherwise be explained according to the modern scientific explanation for eclipses.  Most models show the moon occluding the sun from left to right or from right to left, but actual observation (video, etc.) shows the moon moving "down", from top to bottom, to occlude the sun.  Angles of the shadows, etc. when viewed from planes (there are a couple videos of eclipses viewed from airplanes) are all wrong.  These are just the ones I can think of that don't make sense given the prevailing model.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: SimpleMan on March 24, 2024, 04:54:46 PM
My friend sent me this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-m_aCqnhoA

I'm not one to seek inspiration from Protestant sources, but I couldn't help noticing the verse from Exodus 4:8 at 2:02.

The Bible was not given chapter and verse numbers until at least the 15th century.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 24, 2024, 08:16:56 PM

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And the eclipse occurs in the constellation of Aries, the ram, the male lamb.  Aries is ruled the planet Mars (war).  It is also April 8, the feast day of St. Julie Billiart (1816), the courageous nun who stood strong against the godless revolutionaries during the French Revolution.  The Epistle that day is from Is. 7:10, "Ask a sign of the Lord...His name shall be called Emmanuel."  And the Gospel is the story of the archangel Gabriel coming to our Lady.  And the Offertory Verse,

"Take courage, and now fear not: for behold our God will bring judgment.  He Himself will come and will save us."  
Good info.  
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: LaramieHirsch on March 26, 2024, 05:53:19 PM
I humbly submit this to the discussion:

https://nurseclairesays.com/2024/03/25/guest-post-laramie-hirsch-on-the-april-8-solar-eclipse/

Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: gladius_veritatis on March 27, 2024, 11:31:42 AM
I humbly submit this to the discussion:

https://nurseclairesays.com/2024/03/25/guest-post-laramie-hirsch-on-the-april-8-solar-eclipse/

Excellent info.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Mark 79 on March 27, 2024, 12:46:27 PM
I hadn't realized there was so much speculation afoot, so I thought I'd pass on this commentary from Bob Sungenis.


Facts Regarding the April 8, 2024 Solar Eclipse over North America
Robert Sungenis: None of these are “facts.” They are rumors, exaggerations, and apocalyptic fantasies. 
1)THE UPCOMING TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE of APRIL 8TH 2024, IS 6 YEARS 6 MONTHS 6 WEEKS AND 6 DAYS ( 6666) AFTER THE LAST TOTAL ECLIPSE OVER THE US IN 2017.
RS: This is false. There are 2,422 days from August 21, 2017 to April 8, 2024, which, including two leap years (2020 and 2024) amounts to 6 years, 6 months, 7 weeks and 1 day.
2.    It also spells in Hebrew Alpha and the Omega as TAV
RS: First, what is “It”? Second, TAV is the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet. The first letter of Hebrew is Aleph. In order to match the Greek “Alpha and Omega” the Hebrew would have to have “Aleph and Tav.” Third, Hebrew does not use acronyms, and even if it did, TAV does not mean “THE ALPHA and OMEGA,” since the Hebrew “V” does equate with the Greek ω.
3.    It passes over 7 US cities named Nineveh.(Repent)  4.
RS: That is a rumor from TikTok. There are only two places named Nineveh (Nineveh, Indiana, and Nineveh, Ohio) that will see a total solar eclipse on April 8, 2024. The other six places called Nineveh listed in the TikTok video are located outside the projected 115-mile-wide path of the moon's shadow and will experience a partial solar eclipse like every other town in the contiguous United States. And if there were any truth to the idea that a solar eclipse going through cities is a warning of judgment against them, why do the east coast and west coast of America get off Scott free – the places where most of the evil occurs in America, not the Bible Belt in the Midwest!
4.    It also passes over 7 US cities named Salem( Peace)
RS:  There are 32 places in the United States that have a city or town named “Salem,” and most of them (17) are outside the swath of the total eclipse of April 8, 2024.
5.    All of the major planets are in a perfect alignment with a 2024 total solar eclipse along with the Pleiades and a comet
RS: First, planetary alignments are a common occurrence, just like eclipses. There are at least two solar eclipses per year. Although that might seem like a rare event, the rate of movement and angles at which the sun and moon coordinate, there can only be, at most, five solar eclipses per year, and that only happens less than one percent of the time.
As for planetary alignments, April 8, 2024 is not one of them. The planets will align on April 4, 2024, and the day after, they will not be aligned. As for the next alignments:
On April 20, 2024: there will be a morning alignment of Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn, and Neptune.
On June 7, 2024: there will be a morning alignment of Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.
On August 28, 2024: there will be a morning alignment of Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.
On January 18, 2025: there will be a morning alignment of Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, and Saturn.
On February 28, 2025: there will be a full evening alignment of Saturn, Mercury, Neptune, Venus, Uranus, Jupiter, and Mars.
On August 29, 2025: there will be a morning alignment of Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, and Saturn.
6.    The X which the eclipse traces intersects over the great New Madrid fault zone
RS: Comparison maps will show that the New Madrid fault zone is east of the path of the total solar eclipse by almost the width of Arkansas. The path of the 2024 eclipse goes from Texas to Maine, and even if we widened the path of the eclipse to include the eastern end of Arkansas, the eclipse path hits 95% of non-seismic sections of the US.
Anyone can superimpose one eclipse path over another. It’s been done for years. NASA also did it for a partial 2023 and the upcoming 2024 eclipse, and got this map:


7.    The Chinese spy balloon followed the path of the 2017 eclipse
RS: False. The paths are very different, as one can see by the comparison maps. And what difference would it make in any case? This is just apocalyptic sensationalism at its best.

8.    The last total solar eclipse followed the path of the crack across America from Montana to Florida.
RS: This is false. As one can see from the picture below, the 1700 mile crack is way north of the 2023 eclipse path. The 2023 eclipse path starts in southern Oregon and goes through southern Texas. The 1700 mile crack starts above Washington state and goes through northern Georgia.


9.    The cicada locust plague is also centered in that area starting at the same time.
RS: In what “area”? Cicada invasions occur every 13 to 17 years, and mostly on the east coast of the United States. They have nothing to do with eclipses, cracks or paths of spy balloons.

10. The path of totality begins in America in a place called JONAH also the one who called NINEVEH to repent as a TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE happened overhead.
RS: There is no positive proof there was a total solar eclipse over Nineveh in the days of Jonah. NASA calculates that there was a solar eclipse on the day June 15, 763, but it was only a partial eclipse in Nineveh; and whether Jonah was preaching to Nineveh on or near that date cannot be ascertained. The major problem is that the book of Jonah makes no mention of an eclipse, although some have tried to claim that the passage in which Jonah is said to get too hot because of the sun might be a reference to an eclipse (Jonah 4:6-10). But even if Jonah experienced an eclipse, it gets cooler during the few minutes of an eclipse, not hotter.
11. JESUS PROPHESIED THAT THE END OF DAYS WOULD COME WITH THE SIGN OF JONAH! ( To a " wicked and adulterous" generation.
RS: Not quite. Jesus stated that the unbelieving people of HIS DAY would get no miracle from him except the resurrection of Jesus, which resurrection is analogous to Jonah’s experience with the great fish (Matthew 12:39-40). Jesus did not use the sign of Jonah for the end of days of his Second coming. In fact, Jesus prophesied that the end of days leading to his Second coming would be rather calm and festive, just as they were in the days of Noah (Matthew 24:37-39).
12.  Unlike all previous total solar eclipses over the USA the NATIONAL GUARD is being deployed across the country some with hazmat suits to prevent 'industrial contamination.'

RS: The National Guard is being called in some states (e.g., Oklahoma) because huge crowds are expected to watch the April 8, 2024 eclipse. They want to keep law and order, especially in the face of other uprising across the US in recent years.
My advice? Stop listening to TikTok.


Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 27, 2024, 03:00:48 PM
I hadn't realized there was so much speculation afoot, so I thought I'd pass on this commentary from Bob Sungenis.


Facts Regarding the April 8, 2024 Solar Eclipse over North America
Robert Sungenis: None of these are “facts.” They are rumors, exaggerations, and apocalyptic fantasies. 
1)THE UPCOMING TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE of APRIL 8TH 2024, IS 6 YEARS 6 MONTHS 6 WEEKS AND 6 DAYS ( 6666) AFTER THE LAST TOTAL ECLIPSE OVER THE US IN 2017.
RS: This is false. There are 2,422 days from August 21, 2017 to April 8, 2024, which, including two leap years (2020 and 2024) amounts to 6 years, 6 months, 7 weeks and 1 day.

This one seems close enough.  If you take the time BETWEEN the two dates (exclusive), i.e. from 8/22/2017 - 4/7/2024, it works.  I'd just write this off because I'm not a believer in "numerology".
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 27, 2024, 03:09:40 PM
2.    It also spells in Hebrew Alpha and the Omega as TAV
RS: First, what is “It”? Second, TAV is the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet. The first letter of Hebrew is Aleph. In order to match the Greek “Alpha and Omega” the Hebrew would have to have “Aleph and Tav.” Third, Hebrew does not use acronyms, and even if it did, TAV does not mean “THE ALPHA and OMEGA,” since the Hebrew “V” does equate with the Greek ω.

I THINK what this is a reference to is that if you add a third eclipse (from 2023), the 3 letters form an Alpha.  But the "Tav" (an X formed by the 2017 and 2024 eclipses) seems to refer to the Phoenician version of the alphabet, where Tav (drawn as an X, unlike in Hebrew) is the last letter of the Phoenician alphabet.  So I think whoever this is appears to be blending together some Hebrew and some Phoenician.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 27, 2024, 03:15:36 PM
3.    It passes over 7 US cities named Nineveh.(Repent)  4.
RS: That is a rumor from TikTok. There are only two places named Nineveh (Nineveh, Indiana, and Nineveh, Ohio) that will see a total solar eclipse on April 8, 2024. The other six places called Nineveh listed in the TikTok video are located outside the projected 115-mile-wide path of the moon's shadow and will experience a partial solar eclipse like every other town in the contiguous United States. And if there were any truth to the idea that a solar eclipse going through cities is a warning of judgment against them, why do the east coast and west coast of America get off Scott free – the places where most of the evil occurs in America, not the Bible Belt in the Midwest!
4.    It also passes over 7 US cities named Salem( Peace)
RS:  There are 32 places in the United States that have a city or town named “Salem,” and most of them (17) are outside the swath of the total eclipse of April 8, 2024.

With Nineveh, does it matter if they're under totality or just in the path of the partial eclipse?  That's still a lot of cities by that name in the path of the eclipse (at least partial).

With regard to Salem, 15/32 being within the swath of the eclipse seems like some pretty high odds (given the relatively narrow swath).

I doubt this necessarily means anything by itself, but this could be read as a "sign" from God's Providence that there's judgment coming to the United States.  After all, God orders everything, including who founded these cities and where they founded them.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 27, 2024, 03:21:47 PM
6.    The X which the eclipse traces intersects over the great New Madrid fault zone
RS: Comparison maps will show that the New Madrid fault zone is east of the path of the total solar eclipse by almost the width of Arkansas. The path of the 2024 eclipse goes from Texas to Maine, and even if we widened the path of the eclipse to include the eastern end of Arkansas, the eclipse path hits 95% of non-seismic sections of the US.
Anyone can superimpose one eclipse path over another. It’s been done for years. NASA also did it for a partial 2023 and the upcoming 2024 eclipse, and got this map:

I don't know.  Seems pretty spot-on to me.  Most of the "red zone" below (most damage from Last New Madrid quake in 1895, the 6.8 having been the bigger one) seems to line up pretty well here with the path of totality.

(https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/c1aa665/2147483647/strip/true/crop/437x281+0+0/resize/880x566!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Flegacy%2Fsites%2Fkuar%2Ffiles%2F201307%2FNewMadrid.jpg)

(https://science.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/eclipse-map-2024-1920-1.png?w=4096&format=webp)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Yeti on March 27, 2024, 03:39:27 PM
This whole thread reminds me of the "September 2017" event. It was practically the same thing. Lots of people (https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/revelation-121/msg534353/#msg534353) thought it was going to be the beginning of something major (https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/apocalypse-now-another-great-sign-rises-in-the-heavens-featured/msg476743/#msg476743).



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After 9 ½ months, Jupiter exits out of the womb of Virgo. Upon Jupiter’s exit (birth), on September 23, 2017, we see the constellation Virgo with the sun rise directly behind it (the woman clothed with the sun). At the feet of Virgo, we find the moon. And upon her head we find a crown of twelve stars, formed by the usual nine stars of the constellation Leo with the addition of the planets Mercury, Venus, and Mars.

That is a truly remarkable and, as far as I can determine, unique series of events with a startling degree of concurrence with the vision of Revelation 12.

So what does it mean, if anything? The obvious and truthful answer is that we simply do not know. That said, we are not entirely without possible context.

It just so happens that these events transpire during the 100th anniversary of the apparitions of “the woman clothed in the sun,” Our Lady at Fatima in 1917. The culmination of these astronomical events occurs just 3 weeks before the 100th anniversary of the great miracle of Fatima, in which the sun “danced” (another heavenly sign), an event that was witnessed by many thousands.


And again (https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/are-we-on-the-final-pope/msg542350/#msg542350):


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There may be a sign in the heavens, on September 23rd, 2017.  Found in Apocalypse 12:1 - taken from the Douay Rheims:   1.  And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars: [2] And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered.

On September 23rd, 2017, the constellation Virgo will be with Leo Above her.  In Leo there are 9 stars.  Between Leo and Virgo will be mercury, mars and Venus, which will be 12 stars crowned on (just above) Virgo.  At virgos feet will be the moon, and just below the moon will be Serpens, the snake constellation.  She, Virgo, will also have at her left shoulder, on her back, the Sun, sometime on September 23rd, which will be Virgo, clothed with the sun, as Apoc. 12:1 states, also the 12 stars, and the moon at her feet, with Serpens, which coincides with Catholic traditional artwork depicting the Virgin.  According to astronomers, this is the only time during the time of Christ, that this has happened, we glean.  One more thing.... Jupiter, the largest planet in our solar system appears just below the torso of Virgo, right were a child would be delivered, and sometime around the 23rd, passes in her torso and out of her torso, the king planet, Jupiter, the biggest planet.
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Laramie Hirsch even connected (https://www.cathinfo.com/computers-and-technology/great-american-eclipse-of-aug-21st-2017/msg736760/#msg736760) the 9/23/2017 "event" to this upcoming eclipse with a long article similar to this one, calling it the "U.S. Expiration Date".

I would pay little attention to things like this. I'm not aware of any major event in history that was presaged by a solar eclipse and several normal movements of the planets.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 27, 2024, 03:44:49 PM
7.    The Chinese spy balloon followed the path of the 2017 eclipse
RS: False. The paths are very different, as one can see by the comparison maps. And what difference would it make in any case? This is just apocalyptic sensationalism at its best.

What?  They're not even remotely "very different".  He must be confusing this with the 2024 eclipse.  At most the Chinese Balloon was a bit too far north on the Pacific Coast.  I agree with this likely being relatively meaningless.  Not sure what the Chinese hoped to accomplish by following path of the 2017 eclipse several years later.

2017 Eclipse:
(https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.lK2OxgUg8SGnMWUClogRDgHaDt&pid=Api&P=0&h=220)

Chinese Spy Balloon:
(https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/29242.jpeg)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 27, 2024, 03:51:02 PM
12.  Unlike all previous total solar eclipses over the USA the NATIONAL GUARD is being deployed across the country some with hazmat suits to prevent 'industrial contamination.'

RS: The National Guard is being called in some states (e.g., Oklahoma) because huge crowds are expected to watch the April 8, 2024 eclipse. They want to keep law and order, especially in the face of other uprising across the US in recent years.
My advice? Stop listening to TikTok.

I felt this initially myself, but there's information out there about hazmat, biological, and radiological teams being deployed and on standby.  Nothing about an eclipse would warrant such groups to be on the ready just to "keep order".  There's been some speculation that there are credible terrorist threats associated with the eclipse, since there will be many soft targets, with large groups of people gathering in places that don't have any security.  Do you really think they're expecting an "uprising"?  Will the eclipse be raining Nike shoes and big-screen TVs down upon the crowds?  If anything, they should be on the lookout for looting and "uprisings" in areas that have thinned out their law enforcement to take them closer to the path of the eclipse.  If you move your normal security away from, say, a shopping mall 300 miles from totality, to bring it closer to the path of the eclipse, those places will be LESS secure and less guarded.

At best, a lot of additional traffic cops should be brought on scene to guide the traffic in and out of these locations, but radiological, biological, and hazmat teams?
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on March 27, 2024, 03:58:12 PM
Overall, I feel that there may be less to this than some are claiming, using fear-mongering to get extra views and likes, but there may be more to it than what Dr. Sungenis suggests also.  So it's not nothing, but it's also not likely a major doomsday event ... UNLESS they unleash some coordinated terrorist attacks in crowded places.  In addition, the very large Great Madrid quake came within a few months of another eclipse that followed the same path.  Despite the claims of modern science, we know VERY LITTLE about how our world works.  It's been well docuмented that there's a strong correlation between "CME"s and large earthquakes.  I personally believe that the majority of physics rests on electromagnetic forces (with gravity being a myth), and also believe that the sun is primarily electromagnetic (charged plasma?) in nature, not some super-dense ball of gas, the gravity of which causes fusion), and this isn't just some fringe "flat earth" belief.  One of the best physicists at Ohio State rejects the modern theories of what the sun is and how it works.  "Electric Universe" theory makes a ton more sense to me than "gravity universe" theory, which, as Kaku admits, represents the biggest mismatch between theory and observation in the history of science.  They had to invent "dark matter" in a futile last-gasp attempt to keep the wheels from coming off that wagon.  I also believe that the moon is charged plasma, and that there could be some relatively violent interaction between the sun and moon during an eclipse.  There's a reason that the ancients took eclipses as harbingers of doom.  It wasn't just "superstition" nor were the ancients idiots, as many moderns, especially the scientific establishment, try to claim.  They probably noticed things, such as how bad things actually happen after eclipses, earthquakes, tidal waves, floods, etc.  There were some strange phenomena recorded during the 2017 eclipse that make no sense given modern science's explanation of what eclipses are and how they work.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 27, 2024, 05:37:27 PM
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This whole thread reminds me of the "September 2017" event. It was practically the same thing. Lots of people (https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/revelation-121/msg534353/#msg534353) thought it was going to be the beginning of something major (https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/apocalypse-now-another-great-sign-rises-in-the-heavens-featured/msg476743/#msg476743).
It depends how you interpret "beginning of something major".  In man's time, when a few years go by and nothing happens, then "the sign was meaningless".  In God's time, a few years is like a blink of an eye.  His signs often portend things which *start* then but only come to fruition years and years later.

The fact is, the 2017 event was a unique-in-all-of-history astrological event...a uniqueness agreed upon by both catholics, protestants, and even atheist scientists.  When was the last time these 3 groups of people agreed on anything?

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I would pay little attention to things like this.
:facepalm:  The number of FULL solar eclipses that have occurred over the US is like 5.  In 250+ years, only 5.  It's not nothing.

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I'm not aware of any major event in history that was presaged by a solar eclipse and several normal movements of the planets.
Mmmm...Let's see:

1.  The Egyptian plagues during Moses' time when the river ran red and also the lightning/hail, was most probably a full solar eclipse, accompanied by a comet.
2.  Josuah's prayer for God to extend the day and halt the setting of the sun...an event which astronomers still cannot explain and which still affects our calendar today.
3.  Christ's birth was preceded by a unique-in-all-of-history astrological event.  Both an alignment of planets foretold a "great" king's birth and also the 'star of bethlehem' was unique and never seen before/again.
4.  Christ's death on the cross was preceded by 3 hours of "darkness over the whole land" and earthquakes (i.e. full solar eclipse and possible earthquake-causing-comet)
5.  Our Lady of Fatima's 'miracle of the sun' was a unique sun activity event.


What does Scripture have to say about signs in the sky?
And God said: Let there be lights made in the firmament of heaven, to divide the day and the night, and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years: (Genesis 1:14)

But if they will not even believe these two signs, nor hear thy voice: take of the river water, and pour it out upon the dry land, and whatsoever thou drawest out of the river shall be turned into blood.  (Exodus 4:9)

The exceeding great plagues, which thy eyes saw, and the signs and wonders, and the strong hand, and the stretched out arm, with which the Lord thy God brought thee out: so will he do to all the people, whom thou fearest.  (Deuteronomy 7:19)

And I sent Moses and Aaron, and I struck Egypt with many signs and wonders. (Joshua 24:5)

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, by reason of the confusion of the roaring of the sea and of the waves;  (Luke 21:25)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 27, 2024, 05:50:14 PM
:facepalm:  The number of FULL solar eclipses that have occurred over the US is like 5.  In 250+ years, only 5.  It's not nothing.

Can you explain what you mean by a “FULL solar eclipse”?
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 27, 2024, 05:56:27 PM
Remember his wonderful works, which he hath done: his signs, and the judgments of his mouth.  (Chronicles 16:12)

And thou shewedst signs and wonders upon Pharao, and upon all his servants, and upon the people of his land: for thou knewest that they dealt proudly against them: and thou madest thyself a name, as it is at this day.  (Nehemiah 9:10) (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah)

And my nation is Israel, who cried to the Lord, and the Lord saved his people: and he delivered us from all evils, and hath wrought great signs and wonders among the nations: (Esther 9:10)

Thus saith the Lord: Learn not according to the ways of the Gentiles: and be not afraid of the signs of heaven, which the heathens fear:  (Jeremiah 10:2)

The most high God hath wrought signs and wonders toward me. It hath seemed good to me therefore to publish (Daniel 3:99)

He is the deliverer, and saviour, doing signs and wonders in heaven, and in earth: who hath delivered Daniel out of the lions' den.  (Daniel 6:27)

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And there shall be great earthquakes in divers places, and pestilences, and famines, and terrors from heaven; and there shall be great signs.  (Luke 21:11)

And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars: And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered.  (Apocalypse 12:1-2)
 
And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads, and ten horns: and on his head seven diadems (Apocalypse 12:3)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 27, 2024, 06:07:30 PM
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Can you explain what you mean by a “FULL solar eclipse”?
A total solar eclipse which blocks 100% of the sun (as opposed to an annual eclipse, wherein the sun's "ring of fire" is still visible), and which eclipse path covers both ends the continental US.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Yeti on March 27, 2024, 06:26:27 PM
Mmmm...Let's see:

1.  The Egyptian plagues during Moses' time when the river ran red and also the lightning/hail, was most probably a full solar eclipse, accompanied by a comet.
2.  Josuah's prayer for God to extend the day and halt the setting of the sun...an event which astronomers still cannot explain and which still affects our calendar today.
3.  Christ's birth was preceded by a unique-in-all-of-history astrological event.  Both an alignment of planets foretold a "great" king's birth and also the 'star of bethlehem' was unique and never seen before/again.
4.  Christ's death on the cross was preceded by 3 hours of "darkness over the whole land" and earthquakes (i.e. full solar eclipse and possible earthquake-causing-comet)
5.  Our Lady of Fatima's 'miracle of the sun' was a unique sun activity event.
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None of these examples are relevant because they are all miraculous events. Your #1 was not a comet, but a miraculous event. It is rationalistic to explain the ten plagues of Egypt by natural causes.

All the other events you list are miraculous. I think you missed the point. What is happening on April 8th is a natural event, the result of the normal movement of all these heavenly bodies. So, my point still stands, when has the natural course of the heavenly bodies been a presage for anything?
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 27, 2024, 06:36:15 PM
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None of these examples are relevant because they are all miraculous events.
God can/does use natural things to produce miracles.  Oftentimes, the miracle is not in the event, but in the timing/specificity of the event.

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Your #1 was not a comet, but a miraculous event.
No, there's lots of natural explanations for the 10 plagues of Egypt.  The miracle is in the timing...that they all happened, one after another, exactly as Moses prophecized.  But the events themselves have a natural explanation.

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It is rationalistic to explain the ten plagues of Egypt by natural causes.
No it's not.

The Fatima "miracle of the sun" was a natural, solar event, even though it was unique in all of history.  The sun didn't do anything UNordinary (i.e. unnatural), just OUT of the ordinary (i.e. out of solar rhythm).  The miracle is that an ordinary event (i.e. solar flares) happened EXACTLY when Our Lady said they would.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: SimpleMan on March 27, 2024, 06:42:20 PM
God can/does use natural things to produce miracles.  Oftentimes, the miracle is not in the event, but in the timing/specificity of the event.
No, there's lots of natural explanations for the 10 plagues of Egypt.  The miracle is in the timing...that they all happened, one after another, exactly as Moses prophecized.  But the events themselves have a natural explanation.
No it's not.

The Fatima "miracle of the sun" was a natural, solar event, even though it was unique in all of history.  The sun didn't do anything UNordinary (i.e. unnatural), just OUT of the ordinary (i.e. out of solar rhythm).  The miracle is that an ordinary event (i.e. solar flares) happened EXACTLY when Our Lady said they would.

I can't say that Fatima wasn't some sort of natural event --- happening at the exact day and time the children said for everyone to be there, that would be the "miraculous" part --- but I've never heard this explanation before.

How would solar flares make the sun appear to dance and move randomly in the sky?  With hot air blasts that dried everyone's clothes?
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Yeti on March 27, 2024, 06:51:34 PM
I can't say that Fatima wasn't some sort of natural event --- happening at the exact day and time the children said for everyone to be there, that would be the "miraculous" part --- but I've never heard this explanation before.

How would solar flares make the sun appear to dance and move randomly in the sky?  With hot air blasts that dried everyone's clothes?
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Of course the event at Fatima was not a natural event. If it were, something like that would happen on a regular basis around the world. And it would be visible everywhere the sunlight is visible, which obviously was not the case for the Miracle of Fatima.

And Pax admits that the "timing" of these events is miraculous, which is an admission that they were miraculous events. And they aren't natural events, anyway. The star at the birth of Christ was a miraculous event. This is the common teaching of the Fathers.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 27, 2024, 06:55:00 PM
A total solar eclipse which blocks 100% of the sun (as opposed to an annual eclipse, wherein the sun's "ring of fire" is still visible), and which eclipse path covers both ends the continental US.
What do you mean by “both ends”? From the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean? From Canada to Mexico?
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 27, 2024, 07:06:38 PM
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And Pax admits that the "timing" of these events is miraculous,...The star at the birth of Christ was a miraculous event.
This is all semantics.

An unnatural, miraculous event would be a dog speaking human language.  A natural, miraculous event would be a dog showing up out of nowhere to protect St Don Bosco.

Same thing with Moses and tapping the rock...it is not unnatural for water to spring forth from a rock.  But it's miraculous for it to happen when God said it would.

I'm not minimizing God's power, nor His miraculous doings...I'm just saying that He often uses NATURAL events in a miraculous way.  In hindsight, scientists study such events and find that they are not unnatural (i.e. against the nature of the sun, or a dog) but the timing is definitely miraculous.

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Of course the event at Fatima was not a natural event. If it were, something like that would happen on a regular basis around the world.
Natural does not necessarily mean 'regular'; it means it's not against nature.  Natural means it's within the nature of the object for something to happen.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: gladius_veritatis on March 27, 2024, 11:13:35 PM
I can't say that Fatima wasn't some sort of natural event...

Utter nonsense, offensive to pious ears.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: gladius_veritatis on March 27, 2024, 11:15:05 PM
The Fatima "miracle of the sun" was a natural, solar event, even though it was unique in all of history.  The sun didn't do anything UNordinary (i.e. unnatural), just OUT of the ordinary (i.e. out of solar rhythm).  The miracle is that an ordinary event (i.e. solar flares) happened EXACTLY when Our Lady said they would.

Utter nonsense, offensive to pious ears.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: gladius_veritatis on March 27, 2024, 11:18:16 PM
With regard to Salem, 15/32 being within the swath of the eclipse seems like some pretty high odds (given the relatively narrow swath).

Salem was a more notable part of the 2017 eclipse, but Bobby Sun's half-informed take is clearly not thorough enough to bother about.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: MariasAnawim on March 28, 2024, 05:08:00 AM
So, another "coincidence" just occurred to me.  There's also going to be a lunar eclipse on ... March 25.

So a lunar eclipse on the ordinary Feast of the Annunciation, and a solar eclipse on the transferred-to date this year.

Sometimes there's an analogy made between Our Lord being like the sun and Our Lady like the moon (no, I'm not a sun-worshipper).

In any case, one could almost say that the Feast of the Annunciation (lunar eclipse) is giving way to April 8th (solar eclipse), while the Feast of the Annunciation is giving way to Our Lord's Passion.

Could that symbolize Our Lady giving way to Our Lord?  If you recall, Our Lady often spoke about how she's staying Our Lord's justice.  Is this a sign that she's giving way and that Our Lord's justice is about to strike the earth?

Of course, I believe this so-called "penumbral" eclipse will result in a blood-red moon, but perhaps that's just during a regular eclipse.
very interesting...perhaps you are correct. I really believe we are on the verge of the chastisement.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Mr G on March 28, 2024, 06:57:58 AM

The Fatima "miracle of the sun" was a natural, solar event, even though it was unique in all of history.  The sun didn't do anything UNordinary (i.e. unnatural), just OUT of the ordinary (i.e. out of solar rhythm).  The miracle is that an ordinary event (i.e. solar flares) happened EXACTLY when Our Lady said they would.
I would counter that the "out of the ordinary" event of moving in a zig-ag pattern "dancing", moving toward the earth as if was going to crash into it, drying up the soaked ground and all the soaked clothes of the 70K plus people in attendance in that short of a time span, which would require and intense amount of heat that everyone would have been incinerated: this is beyond the natural abilities of the sun to perform on its own. Thus, the event was more than just a solar flare.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: 2Vermont on March 28, 2024, 07:10:46 AM
God can/does use natural things to produce miracles.  Oftentimes, the miracle is not in the event, but in the timing/specificity of the event.

No, there's lots of natural explanations for the 10 plagues of Egypt.  The miracle is in the timing...that they all happened, one after another, exactly as Moses prophesized.  But the events themselves have a natural explanation.

No it's not.

The Fatima "miracle of the sun" was a natural, solar event, even though it was unique in all of history.  The sun didn't do anything UNordinary (i.e. unnatural), just OUT of the ordinary (i.e. out of solar rhythm).  The miracle is that an ordinary event (i.e. solar flares) happened EXACTLY when Our Lady said they would.
What does the Church say about these miracles?  Does it focus on the timing?  I don't think so.  I'm fairly certain that the events themselves are considered miracles by the Church, not the timing.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 28, 2024, 08:17:58 AM
The events are miraculous.  Just not unnatural to the essence of the objects involved in the miracle.  In other words, the sun didn’t give off rain or snow, which would be contrary to its essential nature of being a heat source.

Even in miracles, typically, God doesn’t do things against nature or the nature of a thing, because everything He created is perfect in its own way, thus He would not go contrary to Himself, in a manner of speaking.  That’s my point.

When the devil does something, it’s always against nature because He hates God and everything He created. 
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: AnthonyPadua on March 31, 2024, 09:02:49 AM
I really wonder if something is going to happen, especially considering the recent transgender wickedness

Solar eclipse on April 8th
• NASA is firing 3 rockets at it
• A "Devil Comet" will be visible during it
• They’re turning on CERN on for first time since 2022 the same day
• "Celestial explosion will briefly create new star in skies"

And it's the feast day of annunciation...
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on March 31, 2024, 09:23:33 AM


Y2K ::)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: OABrownson1876 on March 31, 2024, 12:40:19 PM
I humbly submit this to the discussion:

https://nurseclairesays.com/2024/03/25/guest-post-laramie-hirsch-on-the-april-8-solar-eclipse/
Interesting stuff here, thanks.  Once again, eight is the number of Our Lady (April 8), a fact which is evident in the liturgical year and Holy Writ.  There are dozens of quotes, often the eighth chapter or the eighth verse, which directly relate to Our Lady.  Here are just a few, but I could produce dozens:

Genesis 8:8: "He sent forth a dove after him, to see if the waters had now ceased upon the face of the earth." (The dove is female, a symbol of Mary)

Exodus 15:8: "And with the blast of thy anger the waters were gathered together: the flowing water stood, the depths were gathered together in the midst of the sea" (The Vulgate has in medio mari to end the verse)

2 Paralipomenon 3:8: "He made also the house of the holy of holies..." (Mary is the Holy of holies)

St. John 8:8: "And again stooping down he wrote on the ground" (I believe Christ wrote the name 'Maria' in the sand, which is interesting because this was the chapter on Mary Magdalena)

Apoc. 8:8: "And the second angel sounded the trumpet: and as it were a great mountain (sin), burning with fire, was cast into the sea, in mare, and the third part of the sea became blood."  And this chapter ends with the eagle, the symbol of St. John, "And I beheld and heard the voice of one eagle..."

And I live at 3003 Eagle Pass...hehe!

Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: AnthonyPadua on April 04, 2024, 12:15:28 AM
https://twitter.com/OakieJs/status/1478940209026768897

A few threads contained in that threat. Definitely something strange :popcorn:
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 04, 2024, 06:12:03 AM
• They’re turning on CERN on for first time since 2022 the same day

I wonder what CERN is up to.  We've seen footage of open occult rituals they hold there on a regular basis, and there's something very nefarious going on there.  Just not sure what.

I also think that the relationship between the sun (whether CMEs or eclipses), as well as comets, and earthquake activity is more than just a coincidence.  Taiwan just had a huge earthquake.  There's something electro-magnetic about the nature of the sun, and the earth has a negative charge.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 04, 2024, 08:23:33 AM
Strange.  Apparently now there are changes to the originally-predicted path of the eclipse.  So much for the exact science based on globe-earth calculations.

https://www.newsweek.com/new-solar-eclipse-map-places-moon-block-sun-1886082
Quote
Multiple maps depicting the solar eclipse's path of totality have been published in the months and even years preceding the event, but some of them may now be wrong, Forbes reported. Just a week before the event, eclipse calculations expert John Irwin made calculations that resulted in a slight but significant change to the map. Many locations previously expecting to be within the path of totality are now just outside of it, whereas others that weren't expecting to be included now are.

Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Pax Vobis on April 04, 2024, 08:31:50 AM
Quote
Solar eclipse on April 8th
• NASA is firing 3 rockets at it
A "Devil Comet" will be visible during it
• They’re turning on CERN on for first time since 2022 the same day
• "Celestial explosion will briefly create new star in skies"
Knowing how these elites think (i.e. lucifer is going to defeat God), then my hunch says they think this "devil comet" is their (astronomical/new-age) sign of impending victory.  They are that delusional.

We know that they've been using CERN to open a gateway to the underworld, 3rd dimension, hell, etc.  Somehow in their deranged minds, I think that they believe that opening up hell will help them (through the demonic) to rule the world. 

Or, they fear a sign from heaven, through Our Lady, similar to the miracle of the Fatima, so they want to fire rockets at it.  Or distract people by creating a CERN-induced earthquake.

Or, all of the above.

As smart as these people are, and no matter how much $ they have, or control, or power...they are still possessed individuals, without God's grace and wisdom, so they are doomed to fail by their own pride and short-sightedness.  They've been planning a global kingdom for antichrist for what 200-300 years?  So what?  God planned the entire history of humanity, His Church, and Our Lady's victory before the world was even created, from all eternity, He knew. 

As one Protestant said about the WEF and their satanic agenda:  "Read the Bible.  God wins."
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: AnthonyPadua on April 04, 2024, 09:24:57 AM
Knowing how these elites think (i.e. lucifer is going to defeat God), then my hunch says they think this "devil comet" is their (astronomical/new-age) sign of impending victory.  They are that delusional.

We know that they've been using CERN to open a gateway to the underworld, 3rd dimension, hell, etc.  Somehow in their deranged minds, I think that they believe that opening up hell will help them (through the demonic) to rule the world. 

Or, they fear a sign from heaven, through Our Lady, similar to the miracle of the Fatima, so they want to fire rockets at it.  Or distract people by creating a CERN-induced earthquake.

Or, all of the above.

As smart as these people are, and no matter how much $ they have, or control, or power...they are still possessed individuals, without God's grace and wisdom, so they are doomed to fail by their own pride and short-sightedness.  They've been planning a global kingdom for antichrist for what 200-300 years?  So what?  God planned the entire history of humanity, His Church, and Our Lady's victory before the world was even created, from all eternity, He knew. 

As one Protestant said about the WEF and their satanic agenda:  "Read the Bible.  God wins."
Apparently there will be 2 comets that are visible. I haven't looked much into this stuff, it's basically that gossip that just happens to involve our Lady's feast day, so I keeping a loose eye out.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 04, 2024, 10:18:54 AM
We know that they've been using CERN to open a gateway to the underworld, 3rd dimension, hell, etc.  Somehow in their deranged minds, I think that they believe that opening up hell will help them (through the demonic) to rule the world. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk_8A4rPmbk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsQ1qYq1dYw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvZx8w9ciCo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An8gv6S_Qgg

SOME IMMODESTY HERE -- Cern Ritual, Opening Portal to Hell
https://twitter.com/RjNol/status/1773903051478188190

On April 8, they're trying to find/uncover "Dark Matter" that, according to them, gave rise to the universe.
https://twitter.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1774810226698473586

It doesn't get more obvious than this ...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/CERN_logo.svg/1200px-CERN_logo.svg.png)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 04, 2024, 10:26:10 AM
Space Command Logo seems to closely mirror the last two US eclipses (though not exact) ...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/United_States_Space_Command_emblem_2019.svg)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 04, 2024, 10:30:10 AM
I think the eclipse is symbolic for the Satanists at cern in that a lot of ancient myth has some dark being attempting to devour the sun.  And, of course, this year they're saying that the blotting out of the sun will cause the "devil's comet" to become visible (otherwise hidden by the sun), so how much more symbolic of the rise of Satan can you get, where the sun (symbolizing Christ) is hidden or eclipses, allowing the devil to appear.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 04, 2024, 10:49:21 AM
I think the eclipse is symbolic for the Satanists at cern in that a lot of ancient myth has some dark being attempting to devour the sun.  And, of course, this year they're saying that the blotting out of the sun will cause the "devil's comet" to become visible (otherwise hidden by the sun), so how much more symbolic of the rise of Satan can you get, where the sun (symbolizing Christ) is hidden or eclipses, allowing the devil to appear.

And, I fogot, the program where NASA will be launching rockets into the shadow of the eclipse is named after some ancient "god" that apparently tries to devour the sun.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: SimpleMan on April 05, 2024, 10:12:25 AM
And now there's this:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13276187/nyc-earthquake-new-jersey-tri-state-area-social-media.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13276187/nyc-earthquake-new-jersey-tri-state-area-social-media.html)

Probably doesn't mean anything, but still...
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Matthew on April 05, 2024, 12:11:57 PM
Space Command Logo seems to closely mirror the last two US eclipses (though not exact) ...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/United_States_Space_Command_emblem_2019.svg)

How cheesy can you get. That bird needs a space helmet! He'd explode and/or freeze into a rock hard bird-cicle if Outer Space was a thing.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on April 05, 2024, 12:32:22 PM
And now there's this:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13276187/nyc-earthquake-new-jersey-tri-state-area-social-media.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13276187/nyc-earthquake-new-jersey-tri-state-area-social-media.html)

Probably doesn't mean anything, but still...
Yes, we felt mild tremor this morning.  It rocked my truck.

Saturday, our house shook hard and saw huge flash of light in distance.  Other people experienced same thing but when it was called in nothing was known  or mentioned at all. 

At grocery store, I spoke with lady and her daughter lives in New England and things flew off of shelves.  

People from Philly felt it too.  



Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: SimpleMan on April 05, 2024, 02:39:49 PM
How cheesy can you get. That bird needs a space helmet! He'd explode and/or freeze into a rock hard bird-cicle if Outer Space was a thing.
Looks like the arcs make an X roughly over Colorado Springs, Colorado, if I had to guess.  Wonder if there's any significance to that?

Just want to make sure I understand, if the whole space thing is a hoax, does this mean that each and every one of the roughly 8600 Space Force members are in on this hoax?  Are they taken into some sort of room, sometime after they are recruited, and told "this is all fake, but you have to play along with it"?  And nobody ever breaks ranks and "tells the truth"?  Or are they "breadcrumbed", in a manner of speaking, with bogus info, and then when someone decides they have "the right stuff", when their loyalty is determined to be beyond risk, then they're told the truth?

I am presently getting into the hobby of collecting old satellite equipment that others are just throwing away, in hopes of being able to get what few free-to-air satellite TV broadcasts are still being offered (I'm not about to pay for it).  Am I correct in understanding that, according to the deniers, there aren't really any "satellites", something is obviously up there in the sky, but it's not a satellite, and it's not 22K miles overhead?  You have to be very precise with azimuth and elevation (something I have yet to master, I got a signal meter in the mail just today), which is based upon the earth being a sphere, but the dish isn't picking up anything from near that far away?

Any information appreciated.

Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 05, 2024, 03:18:38 PM
How cheesy can you get. That bird needs a space helmet! He'd explode and/or freeze into a rock hard bird-cicle if Outer Space was a thing.

:laugh1:
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: St Giles on April 05, 2024, 03:27:50 PM
Looks like the arcs make an X roughly over Colorado Springs, Colorado, if I had to guess.  Wonder if there's any significance to that?

Just want to make sure I understand, if the whole space thing is a hoax, does this mean that each and every one of the roughly 8600 Space Force members are in on this hoax?  Are they taken into some sort of room, sometime after they are recruited, and told "this is all fake, but you have to play along with it"?  And nobody ever breaks ranks and "tells the truth"?  Or are they "breadcrumbed", in a manner of speaking, with bogus info, and then when someone decides they have "the right stuff", when their loyalty is determined to be beyond risk, then they're told the truth?

I am presently getting into the hobby of collecting old satellite equipment that others are just throwing away, in hopes of being able to get what few free-to-air satellite TV broadcasts are still being offered (I'm not about to pay for it).  Am I correct in understanding that, according to the deniers, there aren't really any "satellites", something is obviously up there in the sky, but it's not a satellite, and it's not 22K miles overhead?  You have to be very precise with azimuth and elevation (something I have yet to master, I got a signal meter in the mail just today), which is based upon the earth being a sphere, but the dish isn't picking up anything from near that far away?

Any information appreciated.
Sounds like a wasted effort to me. Antenna is much easier, and collects plenty of garbage to fill the screen with. How would you decode the satellite image without a subscription? I thought they solved the code sharing workaround long ago.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Matthew on April 05, 2024, 03:28:48 PM
Just want to make sure I understand, if the whole space thing is a hoax, does this mean that each and every one of the roughly 8600 Space Force members are in on this hoax?  

I am presently getting into the hobby of collecting old satellite equipment that others are just throwing away, in hopes of being able to get what few free-to-air satellite TV broadcasts are still being offered (I'm not about to pay for it).  Am I correct in understanding that, according to the deniers, there aren't really any "satellites", something is obviously up there in the sky, but it's not a satellite, and it's not 22K miles overhead?  You have to be very precise with azimuth and elevation (something I have yet to master, I got a signal meter in the mail just today), which is based upon the earth being a sphere, but the dish isn't picking up anything from near that far away?

Any information appreciated.

Firstly, we don't have 8600 space force members going into SPACE on-the-regular, kind of like how we have a Navy that spends lots of time on the SEA. The two are not equivalent AT ALL.

What these "Space Force" members do, I don't know. But don't picture some Sci-fi movie where they each member of Space Force pilots a small spacecraft, does his "rounds" guarding Earth orbit, occasionally docks with some futuristic space base in Earth orbit or on the Moon, etc. That is PURE FICTION, not reality. It SEEMS like that should be their daily routine, based on their name, first impressions, our programming from Hollywood sci-fi movies -- but such is not the case.

A lot more men were involved in the CLEARLY FAKE Apollo missions -- all they were working on was this or that gizmo. Almost none of them were "in on it". It's called COMPARTMENTALIZATION. The astroNOTs were in on it, yes -- but how many men supposedly went into space -- even today? VERY VERY FEW. And virtually all of them were Freemasons, so...
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Matthew on April 05, 2024, 03:34:37 PM
As for satellites, I haven't looked into the best arguments to debunk that yet, but there's this:

NASA is the largest buyer of Helium in the world.
We've seen plenty of "satellites" come down -- attached to balloons.
Recent current events put the spotlight on this phenomenon -- to me, I know that ALL satellites are such balloons.
No one has ever seen footage of a "satellite" flying in orbit, including NASA's fake footage. They never "bother with" putting the satellites in the CGI flybys they create of Earth orbit (from the ISS, etc.) Probably because it's too difficult. There are supposedly thousands of them at any one time, in any one sector of the Earth.
Every picture you google of "satellite" is some CGI computer generated, artists rendition of a satellite. It's one of those things where once you open your eyes, you can't un-see it.
Are you aware of how highly reliant human communications is, in 2024, on A) undersea cables, B) tower-based radio comms? Virtually all of it. Even some things they claim are from "satellite" are actually from towers, like your cell phone.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Matthew on April 05, 2024, 03:40:35 PM
Here are some memes for your information --
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 05, 2024, 04:08:52 PM
Here's another question that I have not seen a satisfactory answer for vis-a-vis the globe model.

Why do most eclipse "shadows" move from West to East?

In the heliocentric globe model, if you're looking down at the north pole from above, the moon is revolving counter-clockwise around the earth.  But the reason the moon rises in the East, rather than the West, is because the earth is rotating roughly (just to simplify the math) 10 times more quickly than the moon is rotating.  That's in terms of the degrees of the 360-degree circuit that's covered, not in absolute speed, since the moon is moving about twice as fast in terms of absolute speed due to the size of its orbit.

By this logic, eclipses really SHOULD move from East to West.

Also ... shouldn't we have an eclipse at almost every new moon?  Or at least from 1 day to the next.  So if on April 8, the moon is between the sun and the earth, wouldn't it still be in roughly the same spot on April 9, having moved only about 1/30th of the way more around the earth?


I admit that I'm not very good at visualizing things in space and angles, but I've tried to come up with answers to these questions, yet can't.  I saw a video from NASA where the question of eclipses moving West to East was asked, and the NASA "expert" said it was because the moon moves faster than the earth rotates.  That's a completely bogus answer, because it has nothing to do with absolute speed, but with the relative angles between the sun, moon, and earth.  Based on that answer, the moon should rise from the West every morning, not from the East.

Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 05, 2024, 04:27:34 PM
I've actually been searching for computer models (viewed from the perspective of space) that demonstrate how the eclipse will work on April 8 ... in vain.

All I can find is simulations of what it will look like from the perspective of earth and cartoons like this one ...
https://plus.nasa.gov/video/space-place-in-a-snap-what-is-a-solar-eclipse-2/

NASA tax dollars hard at work on this one.  It's narrated in the tone of explaining stuff to a 3-year-old, where there's a deliberate attempt IMO to make people think that these people are such geniuses that they have to talk down to us.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on April 05, 2024, 06:49:53 PM
Firstly, we don't have 8600 space force members going into SPACE on-the-regular, kind of like how we have a Navy that spends lots of time on the SEA. The two are not equivalent AT ALL.

What these "Space Force" members do, I don't know. But don't picture some Sci-fi movie where they each member of Space Force pilots a small spacecraft, does his "rounds" guarding Earth orbit, occasionally docks with some futuristic space base in Earth orbit or on the Moon, etc. That is PURE FICTION, not reality. It SEEMS like that should be their daily routine, based on their name, first impressions, our programming from Hollywood sci-fi movies -- but such is not the case.

A lot more men were involved in the CLEARLY FAKE Apollo missions -- all they were working on was this or that gizmo. Almost none of them were "in on it". It's called COMPARTMENTALIZATION. The astroNOTs were in on it, yes -- but how many men supposedly went into space -- even today? VERY VERY FEW. And virtually all of them were Freemasons, so...
Most of them are in office cubicles shining their seats with their asses; and they do work like the National Geospatial Agency in St. Louis, Missouri. It's, basically, satellite reconnaissance of both the USA and world. Yeah, they're spying on every American plot of land, too. They collect and analyze the data in their atomized cubicles.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: St Giles on April 05, 2024, 08:18:01 PM
Here are some memes for your information --
Are you infallible? Are the scientists infallible? Are the memers infallible? Surely you and Lad know some things much better than I such that you would laugh at my opinions on such things, but in this case, those memes and Lad's objections would be humorous to me they are so clearly wrong and poorly thought out, if I had such a sense of humor. Better to keep quiet than to spread error. I hate it when I find out I've taught others false information. 

Here's an indulgences prayer I found in an old missal: 

My God, make us to be of one mind in the truth, and if one heart in charity. (300 days)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 05, 2024, 08:23:24 PM
I worked at NASA for 4-5 years, and I can attest to the extreme compartmentalization there.  We had a team of about 15-20 people dedicated full time to working on this thing.  And even within just this thing, several people each only know what part of it did.

(https://cdn2.picryl.com/photo/2009/09/17/combustion-module-2-flight-hardware-pre-ship-41d0cd-1024.jpg)





Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 05, 2024, 08:33:39 PM
Are you infallible? Are the scientists infallible? Are the memers infallible? Surely you and Lad know some things much better than I such that you would laugh at my opinions on such things, but in this case, those memes and Lad's objections would be humorous to me they are so clearly wrong and poorly thought out, if I had such a sense of humor. Better to keep quiet than to spread error. I hate it when I find out I've taught others false information.

Here's an indulgences prayer I found in an old missal:

My God, make us to be of one mind in the truth, and if one heart in charity. (300 days)

Who exactly claimed infallibility?  You, on the other hand, claim a relative infallibility for the modern scientific establishment, by deciding that "[my] objections would be humerous ... they are so clearly wrong".  You've not refuted any of the most cogent evidence in favor of Flat Earth, but just keep claiming that they're wrong.  its modern science that is so wrong as to be laughable.

Even if you want to claim that all the evidence and observations made by Flat Earthers are "fake" or hoaxes, we have examples of non-FE professional photographers who set records that have been verified, photographing objects that hundreds of miles away that should be hidden by miles of curvature on a globe.  They had no agenda other than to set the record for long distance photography.  Glober objection is simply "refraction", which is absurd on the face of it.  There are also verified records for long-distance transmission of various line-of-site-only beams that defy the globe math.  There's the fact that having an atmosphere adjacent to a nearly infinite vacuum is impossible, and there's no way that the very weak force of "gravity" could offset and defy the second law of thermodynamics.  We have two-way long distance laser experiments that decisively rule out the possibility of refraction.  We have the fact that there's no drop in the horizon line nor any curvature seen by amateur balloons (again, not by FEs with an agenda) that are not outfitted with wide-angle lenses, something that's absolutely impossible.  If you see how high those 120,000-foot-altitude balloons are and then consider that you'd have that much of a drop on the purported ball earth from one end of Kansas to the other, while there isn't an inch of curvature detected by those same ballons, there's no other conclusion to draw other than the earth is flat.  This is just the evidence produced by people who aren't flat earthers.  But the FEs have also contributed additional evidence, which I do not believe can all be hoaxes.  Some, like Dr. John D, pre-announce his experiments and invite observers to join him as he lives-streams them ... and some of his footage is absolutely irrefutable.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: SimpleMan on April 05, 2024, 08:36:22 PM
Sounds like a wasted effort to me. Antenna is much easier, and collects plenty of garbage to fill the screen with. How would you decode the satellite image without a subscription? I thought they solved the code sharing workaround long ago.
It's just a hobby, I really don't even watch that much television.  I am a ham radio operator and I enjoy anything that has to do with antennas or electronics.  The equipment was given to me, and my total outlay, with three satellite dishes, so far has been less than $100 (had to buy some minor ancillary equipment such as a signal meter).  Just something to do out here in the sun and the fresh air, and get a little education in physics and astronomy while I'm at it.

Free-to-air satellite broadcasts don't require a subscription.  It is mostly ethnic programming and the like, but there are some things of interest to me, such as Louisiana and Montana PBS, as well as a national PBS feed.  Again, it's not so much about watching television, as fiddling around with equipment and seeing what I can pick up, just for the enjoyment of the hobby.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: St Giles on April 06, 2024, 10:43:06 AM
I worked at NASA for 4-5 years, and I can attest to the extreme compartmentalization there.  We had a team of about 15-20 people dedicated full time to working on this thing.  And even within just this thing, several people each only know what part of it did.

(https://cdn2.picryl.com/photo/2009/09/17/combustion-module-2-flight-hardware-pre-ship-41d0cd-1024.jpg)
That picture brings to mind Bishop Williamson's story of the science program on TV with the scientist in white coats, and lots of equipment with dials and flashing lights. "Today we're going to listen to Mr & Mrs Dolphin speak".
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Soubirous on April 06, 2024, 04:25:07 PM
Pretty interesting; it's nice to hear some Catholic context about the eclipse. My coworkers are mostly trying to line up the timing to US-only events, such as grid takeover, alien reveals, and protestant eisegesis of the rapture, as if we are the center of the world, haha. We're located in the path of totality, so the local news has been hyping up the event.

Tank up the car, fill/refresh the water gallons, etc. Brace for any civic chaos (swarming crowds doing dumb stuff) and opportunistic malice (both the petty criminal sort and the more "coordinated" disruptions, should it come to that). Stay clear of the hordes. Good grief, the electronic highway signs in NY are telling people to take mass transit to see the eclipse, yeah, let's get huge numbers of people trapped in trains and buses! And as if the Buffalo or Rochester Amtrak & Greyhound stations are optimal places to witness potential disaster. :clown::facepalm::fryingpan:

Re the Catholic part, get confessed tomorrow, bookmark the Litany of Loreto (or other preferred and fitting Marian devotion) for Monday, and in 48 hours it'll be done with in whatever manner it's done with.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: SimpleMan on April 06, 2024, 05:30:42 PM
Tank up the car, fill/refresh the water gallons, etc. Brace for any civic chaos (swarming crowds doing dumb stuff) and opportunistic malice (both the petty criminal sort and the more "coordinated" disruptions, should it come to that). Stay clear of the hordes. Good grief, the electronic highway signs in NY are telling people to take mass transit to see the eclipse, yeah, let's get huge numbers of people trapped in trains and buses! And as if the Buffalo or Rochester Amtrak & Greyhound stations are optimal places to witness potential disaster. :clown::facepalm::fryingpan:

Re the Catholic part, get confessed tomorrow, bookmark the Litany of Loreto (or other preferred and fitting Marian devotion) for Monday, and in 48 hours it'll be done with in whatever manner it's done with.

Done all that, even the confession part (I always go on the first Saturday of the month anyway).  Didn't think of the Litany of Loreto.

This is all probably nothing, but it never hurts to put one's household on a "state of heightened alert" once in awhile, just as a drill.  Right now I'm freezing some of my stored water bottles, to have a lot of ice to keep the freezer cool (I have two) if power would be interrupted.  Grilled chicken and pork chops on the patio would be a great way to celebrate the world finally being put right.

And one other thing I thought of, if the 3DOD ever does occur, whenever that happens, you could always spray-paint over your windows to keep the light out.  In an apocalypse, having messy windows would be the last of one's worries.

(And not to TMI, but we just happen to have not one, but two, portable toilets, from when my mother was sick and disabled.  So there's one more problem solved.  For those who would dismiss such considerations, try "holding it" for 72 hours, and let us all know how that goes.  No pun intended.)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Kephapaulos on April 06, 2024, 10:32:21 PM
I don't know if that has already been mentioned, but what if another miracle happens like Miracle of Sun where the sun is blocked out by the moon longer than predicted for a considerable amount of time? Perhaps this will not happen, but it is a possibility with God if He so sees it in His will to do so. Perhaps even for three days of darkness? Maybe not still. 
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Kephapaulos on April 06, 2024, 10:33:33 PM
The sun can represent Our Lord, the moon Our Lady, and the comet the devil. Our Lord and Our Lady crush the head of the serpent, the devil. 
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 07, 2024, 11:53:49 AM
I don't know if that has already been mentioned, but what if another miracle happens like Miracle of Sun where the sun is blocked out by the moon longer than predicted for a considerable amount of time? Perhaps this will not happen, but it is a possibility with God if He so sees it in His will to do so. Perhaps even for three days of darkness? Maybe not still.

I was actually joking this morning about what would happen if there's no eclipse.  :laugh1:

Or if goes off course and the people who travelled long distances miss out on it.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: SimpleMan on April 07, 2024, 12:46:41 PM
I was actually joking this morning about what would happen if there's no eclipse.  :laugh1:

Or if goes off course and the people who travelled long distances miss out on it.
But I thought the scientific models were supposed to be so accurate, that they could pinpoint with fine precision what the path of the eclipse is going to be.  Got to wonder what’s up with that.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: 2Vermont on April 08, 2024, 01:30:19 PM
And it is happening here in VT.  😎
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: 2Vermont on April 08, 2024, 02:35:47 PM
That was VERY cool.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Vanguard on April 08, 2024, 02:42:06 PM
Wow - almost as dark as nighttime. 

Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 08, 2024, 02:44:45 PM
I got this during totality with my Nikon P1000 in Northeast Ohio.

(https://i.ibb.co/qBN3x5J/eclipse.jpg)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 08, 2024, 02:46:44 PM
We noticed a red dot just left of center bottom and zoomed in on it.  It stayed exactly the same shape the entire time (we have several pictures of it).  Not sure what that was.

(https://i.ibb.co/8bsgsRX/eclipse2.jpg)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Vanguard on April 08, 2024, 02:46:44 PM
Some photos 
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Matthew on April 08, 2024, 02:49:25 PM
We missed out here, due to it being completely overcast.

I went outside the whole time, things got *slightly* interesting at 99% totality, but it was just like the annular eclipse last Fall. It got much darker -- but that was it. A completely cloudy sky.

The birds starting singing (many different species) as it rounded the corner and started getting light again. Like I said: it was cool, but we really had the worst luck with the weather. 

Maybe next time. Oh wait -- won't be alive for it. Oh well.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Stubborn on April 08, 2024, 02:57:58 PM
That was VERY cool.
Same here!
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: ElwinRansom1970 on April 08, 2024, 03:03:15 PM
We noticed a red dot just left of center bottom and zoomed in on it.  It stayed exactly the same shape the entire time (we have several pictures of it).  Not sure what that was.

(https://i.ibb.co/8bsgsRX/eclipse2.jpg)
Solar flare
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on April 08, 2024, 03:23:50 PM


It was fantastic! I trust no one on here, who saw it, now believes that the Moon is translucent.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on April 08, 2024, 03:25:29 PM
We noticed a red dot just left of center bottom and zoomed in on it.  It stayed exactly the same shape the entire time (we have several pictures of it).  Not sure what that was.

(https://i.ibb.co/8bsgsRX/eclipse2.jpg)


We saw the red areas too! It was amazing! Great pictures!
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: 2Vermont on April 08, 2024, 03:28:23 PM
Anyone else get this eery feeling like we were in some weird, scary movie?  The lighting was just so odd. It was dusk, but it wasn't.  It was as if the sun was setting in the distance, and yet it didn't.

We saw the red dot in that same spot and wondered what it was.

Did y'all see the large outer ring form in the sky as the eclipse progressed?
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 08, 2024, 03:38:51 PM
Yes, we noticed that some geese started squawking very loudly right before totality.  Then when it hit totality, they went completely silent ... and crickets started chirping.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 08, 2024, 03:40:14 PM

We saw the red areas too! It was amazing! Great pictures!

Yes, not sure what that was, but we were able to zoom in on it.  I would initially have thought solar flares, but the triangular thing retained its exact shape and size for almost the entire time of totality (about 2.5 minutes here where I'm at).  I would think that it would have changed in size/shape at least slightly during that period of time.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 08, 2024, 03:45:12 PM

It was fantastic! I trust no one on here, who saw it, now believes that the Moon is translucent.

Well ... :laugh1:

We Flat Earthers don't believe it's the moon that causes eclipses, or not in the way that it's generally explained.

I have still been unable to come up with an explanation for why (most) eclipses move from West to East, and I have Googled around looking for a good one.  Some NASA expert said it was because the moon moves faster than the earth rotates.  But that's demonstrably false, in the sense that absolute speed isn't what counts but the degree of arc covered.  While the moon supposedly moves at an absolute speed of 2-3 times the speed of the earth's rotation, the earth is moving a little over 30 times faster in terms of the 360 degree arc it covers.  In other words, the earth rotates 360 degrees 30 times before the moon completes a revolution.  Otherwise, the moon would rise in the West, given its alleged counter-clockwise rotation (when viewed from above the north pole on a heliocentric globe model).

And the shadow of the moon is far too small given the dimensions and distances involved.  NASA explains this with a diagram that shows the sun being like 5x larger than the moon and then showing how the edges of the sun cast the shadow fromt he size.  But that's ridiculous, since at the distances involved, the sun and moon are roughtly the same size by the time they're seen from earth and it's well know that the sun's rays are effectively parallel (with a tiny fraction of a percent change in angle from end to end).  In fact, the diagram and NASA explanation would invalidate the famous Eratosthenes experiment, since that too is based on the assumption that the sun is far enough away so that the light rays are roughly parallel by the time they get to earth.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on April 08, 2024, 04:05:07 PM
Well ... :laugh1:

We Flat Earthers don't believe it's the moon that causes eclipses, or not in the way that it's generally explained.



Ok, but what other solid object of that magnitude could possibly, totally, block out the Sun?
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Marulus Fidelis on April 08, 2024, 04:13:20 PM

It was fantastic! I trust no one on here, who saw it, now believes that the Moon is translucent.
Not so fast. It could be that the Moon is not causing the eclipse or something else is afoot, such as the moonlight and sunlight somehow cancel each other out, akin to polarisation.

I'm not committed to the Moon being translucent either way, but it could even be transparent sometimes but not always.

Anyway, at the very least we're in the same boat with the globers who can't explain selenelions.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on April 08, 2024, 04:20:50 PM
Not so fast. It could be that the Moon is not causing the eclipse or something else is afoot, such as the moonlight and sunlight somehow cancel each other out, akin to polarisation.

I'm not committed to the Moon being translucent either way, but it could even be transparent sometimes but not always.

Anyway, at the very least we're in the same boat with the globers who can't explain selenelions.


I’m not sure if I should believe you or my lying eyes…..


Seriously though, Isn’t the most Biblical, logical, simple, sensible, and time honored explanation is that the Sun is eclipsed by the Moon?
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Minnesota on April 08, 2024, 05:38:27 PM
It was a great eclipse. Stellar. Ol boy was a little shy, so all most of the country got was clouds. But 10/10 eclipse, would do it again.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 08, 2024, 05:44:57 PM
I’m not sure if I should believe you or my lying eyes…..

Seriously though, Isn’t the most Biblical, logical, simple, sensible, and time honored explanation is that the Sun is eclipsed by the Moon?

You keep talking about your "lying eyes", but you're injecting more into it than what the eyes actually see.  What our eyes see are a circular-shaped darkening of the sun's surface.  You're injecting your preconceptions into HOW it's working and what's causing it, which goes way beyond the phenomena actually reported by your "eyes".  You can claim that it's the only explanation that makes sense (as you do), but that has nothing to do with just what's reported by your eyes.  You are reading all kinds of things into the raw experience on top of what's actually seen.  I actually kept looking for the moon throughout the morning to determine whether I could see it approaching the sun, but couldn't make out even the slightest hint of it.  I would expect that earth shine (which is believed to be 5x greater than moon shine) should have illuminated the moon enough to at least fairly make it out.

As for your claim that it's Biblical, nowhere in the Bible can there be found any explanation for what happens during an eclipse.

Various ancient people (including those who could predict eclipses) posited that there was a third dark body that causes eclipses.  Others held that the moon was actually a projection from beneath the surface of the earth caused by something they called a "dark sun" or "black sun".  Nor was this just some unsophisticated mumbo-jumbo, but they had reasons for believing these things that made sense.

I have still yet to see a valid explanation for why the vast majority of eclipses move from West to East, when the heliocentric globe model would have them moving from East to West.  I've dun around everywhere looking for computer models or something that would illustrate the angles involved, but found nothing ... just a few NASA cartoons showing the eclipse from the perspective of earth and trying to explain it as you would to a 5-year-old.

If you have such a model that illustrates the eclipse with a view that shows the sun, moon, and earth, I'd be happy to look at it.

Also, as I mentioned above, the shadow of the eclipse is way to narrow, and NASA's illustration of why is 100% unsatisfactory, since the sun's rays would be nearly 100% parallel by the time they got to the moon/earth, resulting in no such angles (and the explanation would also invalidate the highly-vaunted Eratosthenes "proof" of globe).
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 08, 2024, 08:02:25 PM
We noticed a red dot just left of center bottom and zoomed in on it.  It stayed exactly the same shape the entire time (we have several pictures of it).  Not sure what that was.

(https://i.ibb.co/8bsgsRX/eclipse2.jpg)

Interesting when we compare this shape to the Artemis mission logo.

(https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/artemis_iii_report_graphic_crop.jpg)

Perhaps just a coincidence.

But they did also release this movie trailer today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW7enw6mFxs
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 08, 2024, 08:30:21 PM
I flipped what I photographed during the eclipse upside down here and put it next to the Artemis "mission" logo.

(https://i.ibb.co/98gMmQK/artemis-eclipse.jpg)

You can even see that red swirl on the left image in the image from today's eclipse.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on April 08, 2024, 08:37:04 PM
Well ... :laugh1:

We Flat Earthers don't believe it's the moon that causes eclipses, or not in the way that it's generally explained.




So please put forth your best explanation, I am willing to look at it.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Marulus Fidelis on April 09, 2024, 01:37:44 AM

I’m not sure if I should believe you or my lying eyes…..


Seriously though, Isn’t the most Biblical, logical, simple, sensible, and time honored explanation is that the Sun is eclipsed by the Moon?
It could just be that the Moon isn't transparent and problem solved.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Stubborn on April 09, 2024, 04:37:15 AM
Anyone else get this eery feeling like we were in some weird, scary movie?  The lighting was just so odd. It was dusk, but it wasn't.  It was as if the sun was setting in the distance, and yet it didn't.
This perfectly describes what I saw.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 09, 2024, 05:39:10 AM

So please put forth your best explanation, I am willing to look at it.

I haven't settle on one yet, since I don't think we have enough data.  I am leaning toward the hidden/secret "Masonic" view that I'll try to find that one video that illustrates it.  But of course, the geocentric (and FE) view have the moon and the sun rotating clockwise ... which does better explain why most eclipse shadows move from West to East.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: 2Vermont on April 09, 2024, 05:52:35 AM
This perfectly describes what I saw.
Thanks for that.  I wasn't sure if I was remembering it/describing it correctly.  Oh, and the other thing to remember was how it quickly it got colder.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 09, 2024, 06:05:03 AM
Thanks for that.  I wasn't sure if I was remembering it/describing it correctly.  Oh, and the other thing to remember was how it quickly it got colder.

Well, that to me is yet another sign that something "different" is happening with eclipses and that the modern "scientific" view of the "solar system" doesn't make sense.  In Northeast Ohio, we're very used to extremely cloudy days, where you could mistake many days for night.  Cleveland area is the second cloudiest in the country (after Seattle) due to the dynamics off Lake Erie.  And yet there was something different going on here than mere lack of sunshine for a couple of minutes.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: ElwinRansom1970 on April 09, 2024, 06:15:51 AM
Well, that to me is yet another sign that something "different" is happening with eclipses and that the modern "scientific" view of the "solar system" doesn't make sense.  In Northeast Ohio, we're very used to extremely cloudy days, where you could mistake many days for night.  Cleveland area is the second cloudiest in the country (after Seattle) due to the dynamics off Lake Erie.  And yet there was something different going on here than mere lack of sunshine for a couple of minutes.
I was absolutely floored by the superabundance of chemtrails in the sky over NEO beginning about 60 minutes before the partial eclipse started and ending about the same time that the whole event ended. At one point I counted 12 aircraft in 15 minutes ejecting that poison into the skies.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Stubborn on April 09, 2024, 06:34:32 AM
Thanks for that.  I wasn't sure if I was remembering it/describing it correctly.  Oh, and the other thing to remember was how it quickly it got colder.
Oh yes, I forgot about that. I was sitting in an area that blocks the win and is one of the warmest areas in my yard, even in winter, but definitely noticed how it cooled right down for a while during the eclipse.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 09, 2024, 06:57:18 AM
I was absolutely floored by the superabundance of chemtrails in the sky over NEO beginning about 60 minutes before the partial eclipse started and ending about the same time that the whole event ended. At one point I counted 12 aircraft in 15 minutes ejecting that poison into the skies.

Yes, my wife pointed that out as well, that for some reason we were blased with chemtrails just before the eclipse.  Now I have a couple of my kids feeling sick, and I don't feel very good myself today.

There are some conspiracy theories out there that they were going to use the eclipse to being their next plandemic by spraying people with bird flu or some such.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: B from A on April 09, 2024, 07:25:35 AM
I was absolutely floored by the superabundance of chemtrails in the sky over NEO beginning about 60 minutes before the partial eclipse started and ending about the same time that the whole event ended. At one point I counted 12 aircraft in 15 minutes ejecting that poison into the skies.
Pictures posted by folks from various parts of the USA viewing the eclipse yesterday, saying they saw lots of chemtrails:

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/434423986_7698947203482792_2614486466121992766_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p526x296&_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=5LbziE1jOtgAb5Hx_tI&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfB26AhuKDG1YgRDKPriiQSyblWdHjHspG-9FcN5bS0uGQ&oe=661B190B)(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/434718149_7776273242385046_1997329824101459992_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p160x160&_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bbraCx8yatIAb40xzaf&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfAjCPP1qGeNgTYeyNC9HpxChLVcjxs-PWwWNquipw-eqw&oe=661B014A)(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/435101822_7776274262384944_358577400164848103_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s261x260&_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=mFFk-ER6RnEAb7BW4Ok&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfA_UZUf9fv73MqnIma7ODiKTDu2Wi3AXShcXI3_11HGrg&oe=661AEEA4)(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/434851450_10224474325502047_8947850766488367569_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg_p160x160&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=szn5oVbm6m8Ab56FUMe&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfC39jeUciOCI1TfQKDtA6e_clYiWVVRcj8PUfUSrwidyg&oe=661B09D4)(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/436592973_2090452531323754_891138652683993642_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p100x100&_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=FevgUhNLM8UAb5131Kt&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfCV1kOVxUugf8a8cACdgl7tb_JmiqGi9KNegktVGYZtAw&oe=661B18EB)(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/435405033_7720432064636571_7916618309220560174_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg_s261x260&_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=Tf6HXFAL5oEAb7g_Bj3&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfAHq53Ah3BS8IZHOkVioGxgCa_sl0avouh1fZoeW9ND-w&oe=661AFF64)
Another, posted with this comment: "A friend (who is not yet awake to what is in the skies) posted this as they waited for totality in his state. I wanted to scream - don't you see the chemtrails they are using to block your view and to poison you!?"

(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/435068360_7592293297494337_464899369817047295_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=8LPp_zDsIGUAb5CBzmS&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfDoLvBQNKKWqnMvQwgzIk0eMeLXH9l3S9EM0_S2CZMfIQ&oe=661B007C)

Avon Ohio (totality zone) just before the eclipse:
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p.s.
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/434719077_10159536839887064_1012121033482932449_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p526x296&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=_pZ6FmmxwYYAb7dHVPP&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfAdxx71ifEK2px1W9J8MJtj8EwUGaFoz4fRlQaTpauUrA&oe=661B2201)

Also [I did not 'vet' the following article, and BTW it's from 2017 - the previous eclipse]:
Chemtrail fleet sprays along path of Eclipse (https://chronicle.su/news/chemtrail-fleet-sprays-along-path-of-eclipse/)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: HeavyHanded on April 09, 2024, 07:34:02 AM
I was absolutely floored by the superabundance of chemtrails in the sky over NEO beginning about 60 minutes before the partial eclipse started and ending about the same time that the whole event ended. At one point I counted 12 aircraft in 15 minutes ejecting that poison into the skies.
Same, at least a dozen went over my house. Sky went from cloudless and blue to grey and hazy. 
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: B from A on April 09, 2024, 07:37:45 AM
Same, at least a dozen went over my house. Sky went from cloudless and blue to grey and hazy.

I'm curious, for those who saw a lot of this, how close were you to the path of totality?
(I'm wondering, since many people congregated at locations along the path of totality, they can get more bang for the buck, so to speak, by doing a lot of this in those areas.) 
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: ElwinRansom1970 on April 09, 2024, 07:39:31 AM
I'm curious, for those who saw a lot of this, how close were you to the path of totality?
(I'm wondering, since many people congregated at locations along the path of totality, they can get more bang for the buck, so to speak, by doing a lot of this in those areas.)
I was right in the path of totality about 25 minutes from one of the nationally-promoted prime locations to view the eclipse.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 09, 2024, 07:55:49 AM
I'm curious, for those who saw a lot of this, how close were you to the path of totality?
(I'm wondering, since many people congregated at locations along the path of totality, they can get more bang for the buck, so to speak, by doing a lot of this in those areas.)

I was about a quarter of the way from the edge of totality, and so experienced it for about 2.5 minutes.  Good enough for me, since I could just walk out of my front (or back) door and see everything just fine without having to travel.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on April 09, 2024, 08:15:07 AM
Pictures posted by folks from various parts of the USA viewing the eclipse yesterday, saying they saw lots of chemtrails:

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/434423986_7698947203482792_2614486466121992766_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p526x296&_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=5LbziE1jOtgAb5Hx_tI&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfB26AhuKDG1YgRDKPriiQSyblWdHjHspG-9FcN5bS0uGQ&oe=661B190B)(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/434718149_7776273242385046_1997329824101459992_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p160x160&_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bbraCx8yatIAb40xzaf&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfAjCPP1qGeNgTYeyNC9HpxChLVcjxs-PWwWNquipw-eqw&oe=661B014A)(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/435101822_7776274262384944_358577400164848103_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s261x260&_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=mFFk-ER6RnEAb7BW4Ok&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfA_UZUf9fv73MqnIma7ODiKTDu2Wi3AXShcXI3_11HGrg&oe=661AEEA4)(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/434851450_10224474325502047_8947850766488367569_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg_p160x160&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=szn5oVbm6m8Ab56FUMe&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfC39jeUciOCI1TfQKDtA6e_clYiWVVRcj8PUfUSrwidyg&oe=661B09D4)(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/436592973_2090452531323754_891138652683993642_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p100x100&_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=FevgUhNLM8UAb5131Kt&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfCV1kOVxUugf8a8cACdgl7tb_JmiqGi9KNegktVGYZtAw&oe=661B18EB)(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/435405033_7720432064636571_7916618309220560174_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg_s261x260&_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=Tf6HXFAL5oEAb7g_Bj3&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfAHq53Ah3BS8IZHOkVioGxgCa_sl0avouh1fZoeW9ND-w&oe=661AFF64)
Another, posted with this comment: "A friend (who is not yet awake to what is in the skies) posted this as they waited for totality in his state. I wanted to scream - don't you see the chemtrails they are using to block your view and to poison you!?"

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Avon Ohio (totality zone) just before the eclipse:
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p.s.
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Also [I did not 'vet' the following article, and BTW it's from 2017 - the previous eclipse]:
Chemtrail fleet sprays along path of Eclipse (https://chronicle.su/news/chemtrail-fleet-sprays-along-path-of-eclipse/)

I saw it first thing in the morning. They were going all out with the chemtrails. 😡
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: OABrownson1876 on April 09, 2024, 09:09:36 AM
My mother took this picture at 3:07, which in Louisville was our peak time totality (98.9 Percent).  I am guessing that this is some type of optical illusion because the object at the 5 o'clock position looks like the eclipsed sun. 


(https://i.imgur.com/fh2nRfs.jpeg)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Soubirous on April 09, 2024, 09:27:36 AM
I am guessing that this is some type of optical illusion because the object at the 5 o'clock position looks like the eclipsed sun.

It's Venus. The photos posted by other folks here show it too. Except during an eclipse like yesterday, it's not visible during the daytime since the sun is a lot brighter.

On clear days Venus can be seen rising in the east about a half hour before sunrise. Try looking for it just above the horizon. That's why it's called the morning star, and then with Christendom became associated with Our Lady, the stella matutina.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: 2Vermont on April 09, 2024, 09:36:47 AM
It's Venus. The photos posted by other folks here show it too. Except during an eclipse like yesterday, it's not visible during the daytime since the sun is a lot brighter.

On clear days Venus is clearly seen in the east a little above the horizon about a half hour before sunrise. That's why it's called the morning star, and then with Christendom became associated with Our Lady, the stella matutina.
Oh cool. Thanks, Soubirous.  I see it is in the picture QVD posted as well.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 09, 2024, 09:44:34 AM
My mother took this picture at 3:07, which in Louisville was our peak time totality (98.9 Percent).  I am guessing that this is some type of optical illusion because the object at the 5 o'clock position looks like the eclipsed sun.


(https://i.imgur.com/fh2nRfs.jpeg)

This is a picture of the sun at >98% totality?  That's not what I would expect it to look like.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Soubirous on April 09, 2024, 09:54:52 AM
This is a picture of the sun at >98% totality?  That's not what I would expect it to look like.

The corona's bright enough to flood the camera lens. Same as in the images in #157 & #163. 

The slightly darker circle of the moon is there but would need a good filter (like maybe what you posted yesterday @ #129) for the contrast to be apparent.   
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 09, 2024, 10:33:01 AM
The corona's bright enough to flood the camera lens. Same as in the images in #157 & #163.

The slightly darker circle of the moon is there but would need a good filter (like maybe what you posted yesterday @ #129) for the contrast to be apparent. 

Well, I'm not convinced.  Why doesn't the image flood the camera lens at 50% totality?  And why does it flood the camera in the exact shape of the fully-visible sun?  And I would think the 2% area should be noticeably brighter than the rest.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: St Giles on April 09, 2024, 11:34:16 AM
Well, I'm not convinced.  Why doesn't the image flood the camera lens at 50% totality?  And why does it flood the camera in the exact shape of the fully-visible sun?  And I would think the 2% area should be noticeably brighter than the rest.
Because you don't know much when it comes to physics and stuff like that, as you repeatedly prove. Your last few posts really make you out to be a conspiracy theory nut, but I'll hand you the chem trail one. That was crazy. I wonder if they did it to cause all this rain.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 09, 2024, 01:01:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPy8yff0hGE
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 09, 2024, 01:04:34 PM
Because you don't know much when it comes to physics and stuff like that, as you repeatedly prove. Your last few posts really make you out to be a conspiracy theory nut, but I'll hand you the chem trail one. That was crazy. I wonder if they did it to cause all this rain.

You prove repeatedly that you're a weak-minded individual who's easily programmed and incapable of thinking for himself, and posture as being knowledgeable for simply regurgitating what the scientific establishment spews.  You types never refute the actual evidence, objections, and observations, but merely produce ad hominems like the above.

While they've been chem-trailing as part of a larger program, this wasn't just your normally-scheduled chemtrails, but was concentrated along the path of the eclipse.

If they did it to cause rain, why?  That seems like a lot of effort to just cause rain ... AND it didn't actually work during most of the eclipse path.  Where we were, the skies were covered with these things, eventually spreading out into a general haze.  No rain.  And I was still able to take some very good pictures of the eclipse.

I wouldn't put it past them to be trying to start some kind of bird flu epidemic.  This even was hyped orders of magnitude more than the very similar 2017 event, so that you had people travelling from all over the country to go see it.  Now that they've returned to where they came from, they could be carrying whatever it is they sprayed all over the country.  Bird Flu is the top candidate, as they've been hyping it in the media lately, claiming some human cases in Texas (strangely near the path of the eclipse), and they've been culling millions of livestock due to "bird flu".
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on April 09, 2024, 02:18:47 PM
This is a picture of the sun at >98% totality?  That's not what I would expect it to look like.

I don’t understand, did you use protective glasses?
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on April 09, 2024, 03:05:01 PM
Picture of the chemtrails I took the morning of the 8th. The one on top looks particularly weird:

(https://i.imgur.com/0ZHat61.jpeg)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: 2Vermont on April 09, 2024, 03:51:07 PM
I don’t understand, did you use protective glasses?
Anytime I looked up at the sun before putting on my protective glasses (and only for a second to find its location), it always looked like a full sun.  It was only until I put on the glasses that I could see the distinctions.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: St Giles on April 09, 2024, 08:14:51 PM
You prove repeatedly that you're a weak-minded individual who's easily programmed and incapable of thinking for himself, and posture as being knowledgeable for simply regurgitating what the scientific establishment spews.  You types never refute the actual evidence, objections, and observations, but merely produce ad hominems like the above.
Sometimes the hominem is the problem such that refutation is futile. A person can go overboard with conspiracy theorizing and doubting everything to the point of basically becoming some sort of Kantian who vomits whatever his feelings/opinions are on the phenomena regardless of what's rational.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on April 09, 2024, 08:32:59 PM
Anytime I looked up at the sun before putting on my protective glasses (and only for a second to find its location), it always looked like a full sun.  It was only until I put on the glasses that I could see the distinctions.

Absolutely. That’s why I asked him. If you had the glasses you could clearly see that the Moon was obscuring the Sun by degrees. 
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: St Giles on April 09, 2024, 08:54:34 PM
Pictures I took
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 09, 2024, 09:43:42 PM
Nice pictures.  I didn't take any other than during totality, since I don't have an ND filter.  But the ones I took during totality look very similar to yours, and also caught that red triangle thing at the bottom.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on April 09, 2024, 09:59:06 PM
Pictures I took
Great pics, much better than mine. I had cloudy skies, but I watched the whole time of totality. It was amazing. I guess Y2K failed again! :laugh1:
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 09, 2024, 10:06:50 PM
Great pics, much better than mine. I had cloudy skies, but I watched the whole time of totality. It was amazing. I guess Y2K failed again! :laugh1:

I wouldn't write it off just yet.  They were doing SOMEthing nefarious with the massive chem-trailing along the route of the eclipse.

https://www.cathinfo.com/world-war-iii-chapter-2/'bird-flu'-in-cattle-and-human-(right-)/

They hyped the heck out of this eclipse orders of magnitude more than they did for the 2017 one.  People were travelling from all over to the path of totality, and they were chem-trailing the entire path of totality (there's massive amounts of video and satellite imagery proof that they were following the path of the eclipse).  Then when people return to their homes and you start seeing "outbreaks" of something everywhere ... they usher in Plandemic 2.0 and also use it as an excuse to cull birds and now "cattle" (which are somehow being "infected" with bird flu) ... so we can eat bugs.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: St Giles on April 09, 2024, 10:37:02 PM
I just took pictures through the eclipse glasses as my sun filter. You could probably do it too with your P1000, just make sure to block off any light that could leak around the filter, then you can take pics of sun spots. My relatively cheap camera, and someone else's expensive DSLR had trouble getting a sharp focus on the sun. We had to manually dial in the focus the last little bit.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Kephapaulos on April 09, 2024, 10:42:05 PM
Maybe I missed if anything was said about the solar eclipse in relation to the flat earth position, but it would be interesting to find out. 
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Mark 79 on April 09, 2024, 11:10:03 PM
(https://westernrifleshooters.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/15475011896615b45e843721712698462.jpg)
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on April 10, 2024, 03:34:59 AM
I wouldn't write it off just yet.  They were doing SOMEthing nefarious with the massive chem-trailing along the route of the eclipse.

https://www.cathinfo.com/world-war-iii-chapter-2/'bird-flu'-in-cattle-and-human-(right-)/

They hyped the heck out of this eclipse orders of magnitude more than they did for the 2017 one.  People were travelling from all over to the path of totality, and they were chem-trailing the entire path of totality (there's massive amounts of video and satellite imagery proof that they were following the path of the eclipse).  Then when people return to their homes and you start seeing "outbreaks" of something everywhere ... they usher in Plandemic 2.0 and also use it as an excuse to cull birds and now "cattle" (which are somehow being "infected" with bird flu) ... so we can eat bugs.

I will agree that it’s a possibility.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Ladislaus on April 10, 2024, 05:44:22 AM
I just took pictures through the eclipse glasses as my sun filter. You could probably do it too with your P1000, just make sure to block off any light that could leak around the filter, then you can take pics of sun spots. My relatively cheap camera, and someone else's expensive DSLR had trouble getting a sharp focus on the sun. We had to manually dial in the focus the last little bit.

Your pictures look great.  I didn’t have a solar filter and didn’t want to ruin the camera, so I just took pictures during totality.  By the time I realized that a UV filter didn’t suffice, it was too late to order an ND filter and all the local places were sold out.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: 2Vermont on April 10, 2024, 06:19:38 AM
Great pics, much better than mine. I had cloudy skies, but I watched the whole time of totality. It was amazing. I guess Y2K failed again! :laugh1:
Agreed.  I will say however, that I think the big hype this time around is part and parcel of the continuation of the push for the "we're all in this together- we're unified" nonsense from COVID:

I was listening to a local report after the eclipse and people were saying how emotional they were and realized just how insignificant they were in the universe. Really? It took a solar eclipse for you to have this realization?  And you cried about it? :facepalm:
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Mark 79 on April 10, 2024, 10:29:35 AM
Democrat Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee is Confused by Astronomy: “The Moon is Made Up Mostly of Gases”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/democrat-rep-sheila-jackson-lee-is-confused-astronomy/
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: St Giles on April 11, 2024, 09:09:53 PM
No tripod support unfortunately, but I wanted to get a picture of how solid the moon looks even when its not full.
Title: Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on April 11, 2024, 09:26:43 PM
No tripod support unfortunately, but I wanted to get a picture of how solid the moon looks even when its not full.

This is why I insist that anyone who wants to argue that the Moon is not a solid sphere which has actual craters, must first look at it with a telescope.