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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2024, 06:29:30 AM »
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  • Remember, scientists, even in ancient times, have accurately predicted eclipses and their paths of totality and they ALL used the assumption that the Earth is a globe (not snow globe).

    It is *impossible* to make these predictions using a FE model.

    I retract the “ALL” and “impossible” part of my statement, assuming that the Babylonians astronomers did indeed believe the Earth was flat. The Saros Cycle was based on timing. I was correct that their accuracy was not perfect and they couldn’t predict the path.
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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #46 on: March 23, 2024, 08:14:29 AM »
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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #47 on: March 23, 2024, 07:56:32 PM »
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    Eratosthenes was Egyptian (he lived around 200) and was one of the first to do many measurements of the earth according to a spherical shape. 
    He was Greek and he lived around the 200sBC.  Im talking about 2,300 years EARLIER, the people who actually built the pyramids.  

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #48 on: March 23, 2024, 07:59:15 PM »
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    No one has mentioned constellations yet, let’s stick with eclipses for now.
    :confused:  It’s all part of the same system of study.  Stars, constellations, planets, eclipses — the ancient peoples studied it all as one, coherent system.  

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #49 on: March 23, 2024, 09:18:14 PM »
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  • And the eclipse occurs in the constellation of Aries, the ram, the male lamb.  Aries is ruled the planet Mars (war).  It is also April 8, the feast day of St. Julie Billiart (1816), the courageous nun who stood strong against the godless revolutionaries during the French Revolution.  The Epistle that day is from Is. 7:10, "Ask a sign of the Lord...His name shall be called Emmanuel."  And the Gospel is the story of the archangel Gabriel coming to our Lady.  And the Offertory Verse,

    "Take courage, and now fear not: for behold our God will bring judgment.  He Himself will come and will save us."  
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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #50 on: March 24, 2024, 04:49:30 AM »
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  • I thought that the pyramids were based off of the stars (and their predictions of eclipses as well).  I think I remember hearing that the North Star was particularly important in the alignment of one of their great pyramids.  (They were Sun and star worshipers after all.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_astronomy

    Eratosthenes was Egyptian (he lived around 200) and was one of the first to do many measurements of the earth according to a spherical shape.  It would be interesting to know more of his works.
    Eratosthenes assumed the Earth was a sphere, assumed the sun rays came parallel to the ground, and based on those false assumptions calculated what the Earth's circuмference would be if it were a ball.

    His experiment is perfectly consistent with the assumption of a local Sun and rays coming in at an angle at the sticks.

    If you're interested in the topic of FE you should check out Taboo Conspiracy's channel.

    Nonsense like the idea that Eratosthenes somehow proved the Earth is a ball has been refuted ages ago but globers refuse to acknowledge it.

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #51 on: March 24, 2024, 05:23:10 AM »
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  • He was Greek and he lived around the 200sBC.  Im talking about 2,300 years EARLIER, the people who actually built the pyramids. 
    My apologies.  I assumed he was Egyptian because he was the director of Library of Alexandria.

    I knew that you were talking about the ancient Egyptians.  I just came across him while looking some things up.  He was placed in Egypt and I hadn't heard much about him before.
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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #52 on: March 24, 2024, 05:59:31 AM »
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  • Eratosthenes assumed the Earth was a sphere, assumed the sun rays came parallel to the ground, and based on those false assumptions calculated what the Earth's circuмference would be if it were a ball.

    His experiment is perfectly consistent with the assumption of a local Sun and rays coming in at an angle at the sticks.

    If you're interested in the topic of FE you should check out Taboo Conspiracy's channel.

    Nonsense like the idea that Eratosthenes somehow proved the Earth is a ball has been refuted ages ago but globers refuse to acknowledge it.

    Can you explain how he was wrong?
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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #53 on: March 24, 2024, 09:16:57 AM »
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  • Can you explain how he was wrong?
    I already did, the experiment is begging the question by assuming an infinitely far way Sun.

    But here's more if you're interested.

    https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Eratosthenes-Experiment-Debunks-Flat-Earth-:3

    https://odysee.com/@NO_EYES_ON_ME:2/Moonlight-Disproves-Eratosthenes'-Shadow-Experiment,-since-i:a

    In summary, taking into account the Moon's shadows, we see Eratosthenes actually leads us again to the inescapable conclusion of a flat and stationary plane.

    QvD you (I think) keep claiming FE can't explain this or that, well, the globe can't even explain shadows :laugh2:

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #54 on: March 24, 2024, 09:42:46 AM »
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  • Interesting video about the moon.  No one really mentions its shadows produce the same effect from such a local position.  

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #55 on: March 24, 2024, 03:56:02 PM »
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  • I already did, the experiment is begging the question by assuming an infinitely far way Sun.

    But here's more if you're interested.

    https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Eratosthenes-Experiment-Debunks-Flat-Earth-:3

    https://odysee.com/@NO_EYES_ON_ME:2/Moonlight-Disproves-Eratosthenes'-Shadow-Experiment,-since-i:a

    In summary, taking into account the Moon's shadows, we see Eratosthenes actually leads us again to the inescapable conclusion of a flat and stationary plane.

    QvD you (I think) keep claiming FE can't explain this or that, well, the globe can't even explain shadows :laugh2:


    Thanks for the videos. I watched the first video and the first problem that I saw with the presenter’s theory was his belief that, due to the apparent divergence of crepuscular rays, this is proof that the Sun must be less than a few thousand miles above the Earth’s surface.

    Crepuscular rays are in fact *parallel* and *not* divergent. This is demonstrated not only by examples of perspective, but also by the rare phenomenon of anti crepuscular rays. See examples below:













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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #56 on: March 24, 2024, 04:08:29 PM »
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  • This is a good video explaining crepuscular rays:

    https://youtu.be/cTPLqbl-HGY?feature=shared
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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #57 on: March 24, 2024, 04:10:11 PM »
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  • I retract the “ALL” and “impossible” part of my statement, assuming that the Babylonians astronomers did indeed believe the Earth was flat. The Saros Cycle was based on timing. I was correct that their accuracy was not perfect and they couldn’t predict the path.

    I believe that Babylonians COULD have tracked eclipses using the Saros cycle ... IF they had more data, readings/observations from different places, since their predictions of eclipses were for those that they could see.

    In any case, the bottom line is that if you have enough data and do enough math, you can calculate any kind of recurring, periodic movements, even if from different coordinate systems.

    You had Tycho Brahe with his geocentric-based Tychonic circles, and most planetarium software is actually geocentric.

    In the end it doesn't matter whether the sun and the moon are the same size (roughly, as  many FE conceive of them) or whether the sun is four times as large and four times farther away (such as when Greek astronomers, who also predicted eclipses, consider it to be a million miles away) or 400 times as large and 400 times farther away, as those amount to the same thing.

    If you have enough data points, e.g. readings / observations, and do enough math, you can predict anything that has a regular geometric / periodic / recurring movement.

    There are some anomalies that are not fully explained with regard to modern science's claims about how eclipses happen, so their model is far from perfect either.

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #58 on: March 24, 2024, 04:16:13 PM »
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  • I believe that Babylonians COULD have tracked eclipses using the Saros cycle ... IF they had more data, readings/observations from different places, since their predictions of eclipses were for those that they could see.

    In any case, the bottom line is that if you have enough data and do enough math, you can calculate any kind of recurring, periodic movements, even if from different coordinate systems.

    You had Tycho Brahe with his geocentric-based Tychonic circles, and most planetarium software is actually geocentric.

    In the end it doesn't matter whether the sun and the moon are the same size (roughly, as  many FE conceive of them) or whether the sun is four times as large and four times farther away (such as when Greek astronomers, who also predicted eclipses, consider it to be a million miles away) or 400 times as large and 400 times farther away, as those amount to the same thing.

    If you have enough data points, e.g. readings / observations, and do enough math, you can predict anything that has a regular geometric / periodic / recurring movement.

    There are some anomalies that are not fully explained with regard to modern science's claims about how eclipses happen, so their model is far from perfect either.

    Lad, sorry if I was rude to you in any way. My apologies.
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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #59 on: March 24, 2024, 04:25:24 PM »
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  • There are some anomalies that are not fully explained with regard to modern science's claims about how eclipses happen, so their model is far from perfect either.

    I disagree, their accuracy seems to be exceptional. As I live in an area that borders on the path of totality, as long as the sky is clear, I plan on testing their timing and accuracy of path. You can probably do the same thing. 
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?