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Offline gb321wwo

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God's Mercy
« on: October 03, 2007, 11:42:23 AM »
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    « Reply #1 on: October 03, 2007, 11:50:32 AM »
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  • To keep things in perspective, I wish to post this:

    (And no, I don't normally endorse or post things from Traditio! I disagree quite strongly with "Father" Moderator on most issues relating to the Crisis in the Church)

    http://www.traditio.com/tradlib/faq11.txt

    DIVINE MERCY

            A local devotion under this title, which is associated with one Sr.
    Faustina and a chaplet of the Divine Mercy, was approved by the Ordinary of
    Vilnius, Poland, in 1936 and from there spread rapidly, especially after World
    War II in the United States.

            It appears that Sr. Faustina could not write, except for a few lines
    phonetically.  Most of her "diary" was concocted by her sisters after her
    death.  Because of the incongruities of the dairy (different handwriting,
    different use of terms), the devotion was suppressed, and the book of her
    diary was placed on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum [Index of Forbidden
    Books].  This decision was upheld by Pope John XXIII in 1958/59.

            In early 1978, a Polish cardinal petitioned the Vatican to remove the
    suppression of the devotion, which was being practiced without sanction in
    his diocese, and the Vatican replied in the negative, confirming the
    suppression.  By this time the original devotion had been illegally replaced by
    an oecuмenized version framed in New Order terminology -- with substantially
    changed prayers to promote non-Catholic beliefs and the heresy of universal
    salvation.  Later in 1978 a Polish pope was elected, and the now modernized
    version, twice condemned, was now entered onto the Novus Ordo liturgical
    calendar on the Octave of Easter.

            The Octave Day of a feast, particularly of the greatest feast,
    Easter, is a significant day in itself.  The Divine Mercy cult is thus in
    contravention of the focus of the Catholic liturgy for that day,
    which is on the Resurrection of Our Lord and faith in His Divinity.  As Dom
    Gueranger, the noted Benedictine liturgical scholar, commented in his
    fifteen-volume Liturgical Year:  "Such is the solemnity of this Sunday that
    not only is it of greater double rite, but no feast, however great, can ever
    be kept upon it."  That is the Roman Catholic attitude, which the New Order
    spurned.

            Not surprisingly, the cult in post-Conciliar times is increasing in its
    association with another cult, that is, the cult of "Catholic" Charismaticism.  
    This Charismatic Movement is far from true Catholicism, but is a derivative of
    the Protestant heresy, based on the erroneous notion that emotional experience
    always accompanies the conferral of grace, whereas the Catholic doctrine is that
    the only sensible indication of the conferral of grace is the Sacrament itself.  
    Perhaps the cult's association with New Age ideas is why it has become lionized
    in recent years, whereas popes up to JPII have condemned it.

            Is it any wonder that the New Order pushes this corrupted devotion over
    the traditional devotion to the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus?  The devotion to the
    Most Sacred Heart of Jesus is a much more ancient devotion, having grown in the
    early Middle Ages through the efforts of St. Bernard of Clairvaux, a Doctor of
    the Church, and St. Gertrude.   However, it was in the latter half of the
    seventeenth century that news of three private revelations to St. Margaret Mary
    Alocoque concerning the Sacred Heart swept the Catholic world and shortly led to
    the establishment of a feast on the Friday after the Octave of Corpus Christi
    (the Friday after the Second Sunday after Pentecost).

            The Feast of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, which was extended to
    the Universal Church by Pope Pius IX in 1856, became a feast of atonement for
    human ingratitude toward God in spite of the supreme sacrifice of Calvary.  
    The theme for the new Mass and the Divine Office was taken from the words of
    Our Lord to St. Margaret Mary:  "Behold the Heart which has loved men so
    greatly, but which has been given so little love in return."

            Devotion to the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus has been richly
    indulgenced by the Church, and a Litany of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus is
    one of only five approved for public recitation.  Given the apparent New Order's
    corruption of the original devotion to the divine mercy and the pushing
    of this Charismatic novelty condemned by two popes, traditional Catholics will
    continue to stand with the more ancient and universally-approved devotion to the
    Most Sacred Heart of Jesus and reject this New Order novelty.
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    « Reply #2 on: October 04, 2007, 12:06:46 PM »
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  • God's Wish to expand the cult of His Mercy has met with many obstacles
    (incorrect interpretations).
    No wonder that  there were and are now a lot of
    bad opinions that underline corruption,improper
    indulgence etc in this matter.
    Thank God that our Pope John Paul II approved
    the devotion to the Divine Mercy (including a chaplet).
    Growing and growing number of people who want to fullfil
    the God's Wish,is (and will be) in the foreground
    fighting with the devil's forces.
    The chaplet has been given for the ultimate time
    (Jesus said it to St.Faustina).
     

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    « Reply #3 on: October 05, 2007, 01:44:01 PM »
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  • As JP2 also promoted absolute indifference with respect to religion (even lending a helping hand to voo-doo in lands like Benin), his "stamp of approval" on this matter means nothing - even to many who accept him as a true Pontiff.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #4 on: October 06, 2007, 04:50:27 AM »
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  • Our Pope John Paul II showed to everyone his wisdom
    and respect for God's Will approving the devotion to
    the Divine Mercy.
    His "stamp of approval"  is of great importance.
    This is a time for  God's Mercy.
    Everyone has his own will.
    God's Mercy is waiting for every remorsful and
    humble man until there is time....


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    « Reply #5 on: October 06, 2007, 07:14:22 AM »
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  • Good Job Matthew, and Traditio has a misunderstood form of writing and wit, but, if someone writes the truth (and there is truth behind his postings) it then becomes a matter of those not wishing to accept truth.
    Reading of the great devotion that the French Catholics had during the Revolution to the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the plain truth that having that badge on your person anywhere condemed you to a savage death (many times not making it to "Madame Guiolltine") but being ripped to pieces by a satanic induced crowd. What was it that so inflamed the demoniacs? The site of the Sacred Heart of Jesus and why wouldn't Satan replace that devotion to a  new, gentler, less damning verson of Mercy and no Hell

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    « Reply #6 on: October 06, 2007, 10:02:28 AM »
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  • There is no replacement of the right devotion to

    another one made by Satan. A certain harmful transformation

    of thoughts is - in fact -  made in many people.

    These people are acting within limited horizon of thoughts,

    closed for God. They do not see visible signs of God;

    do not trust in Him.  

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    « Reply #7 on: October 11, 2007, 04:34:12 AM »
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    « Reply #8 on: October 15, 2007, 11:54:14 AM »
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  • Quote from: gb321wwo
    Our Pope John Paul II showed to everyone his wisdom and respect for God's Will approving the devotion to the Divine Mercy. His "stamp of approval"  is of great importance.


    He was as wise as a serpent, and far more dangerous.

    Some, although having eyes, will not see.  

    God speed.

    Tell me: In admiring and following his "wisdom", do you travel to the foest of Africa in order to pray with Animists, praising voo-doo?  Do you visit ѕуηαgσgυєs, praying with your "elder brothers in the faith"?
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #9 on: October 15, 2007, 10:11:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: gb321wwo
    Our Pope John Paul II showed to everyone his wisdom
    and respect for God's Will


    But some will not see that his 'ecuмenism' was an attack upon Roman Catholicism. His views were not Catholic. So one might well suspect that his heart was not with The Church. His words and actions clearly were not.

    But his supporters, particularly when he died, tried to enshrine this fake as JP II The Great. As 'The Great'. I kid you not. It sounds insane. But you would see that in writing, and in placards that people waved. Even while you don't see those efforts, today, it really did happen.


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    « Reply #10 on: October 16, 2007, 03:04:03 PM »
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  • I would have less of an opinion on the matter if the book did not go through numberless revisions as to the content, that the book was placed on the Index of Forbidden books, and that many of the prophecies of the books never came to fruition.

    How can it be wise to follow a book with dubious origins?
    God bless,
    Michael Solimanto


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    « Reply #11 on: October 16, 2007, 04:47:21 PM »
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  • Quote from: MichaelSolimanto

    How can it be wise to follow a book with dubious origins?


    Crossing the Threshold of Hope, by JP II 'The Great'?

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    « Reply #12 on: October 23, 2007, 04:40:35 PM »
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    « Reply #13 on: October 28, 2007, 05:44:31 AM »
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  • Here is a testimony I have received recently as a reply
    to my post in another forum :

    Have you seen or heard this done on EWTN? You can also get this on video (the Divine Mercy Chaplet in song.). It is
    extremely moving. We have used this to help share some of our faiths treasures with our protestant neighbors and friends. Our neighbors through a good deal of sharing (being lead by God to do so) and the Holy Spirit preparing good ground now consider themselves "batholics" instead of baptists.


    It is wonderful that people of various denomination can unite in praying,especially saying a chaplet to God's Mercy.
    I encourage all of you to pray and to expand God's Glory!

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    « Reply #14 on: October 28, 2007, 03:04:23 PM »
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