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Author Topic: Biblical Prophecies that forecast the Conciliar Rebellion/Apostasy  (Read 5632 times)

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Offline DecemRationis

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I'll repeat here Matthew's rule regarding this forum:

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The purpose of this thread is simply to quote and post Scriptural passages that one thinks may relate to what the Church is enduring post-Vatican II. Please just quote the Scripture without comment. It is intended that this thread be a place for members to read some Scripture and personally reflect on the passages and their relevance (or not) to the Crisis.

If one wishes to discuss a passage, one can start a new thread in perhaps the Sacred of Crisis forums.

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Re: Biblical Prophecies that forecast the Conciliar Rebellion/Apostasy
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2023, 06:43:04 AM »
Zacharias (Zechariah) 13:7-9

7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that cleaveth to me, saith the Lord of hosts: strike the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn my hand to the little ones.  8 And there shall be in all the earth, saith the Lord, two parts in it shall be scattered, and shall perish: but the third part shall be left therein.  9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined: and I will try them as gold is tried. They shall call on my name, and I will hear them. I will say: Thou art my people: and they shall say: The Lord is my God.


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Re: Biblical Prophecies that forecast the Conciliar Rebellion/Apostasy
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2023, 06:51:28 AM »
Osee (Hosea) 8:4

Vulgate                                                                                                  Douay Rheims                                                                                                            Knox Version


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Ipsi regnaverunt, et non ex me; principes exstiterunt, et non cognovi: argentum suum et aurum suum fecerunt sibi idola, ut interirent.
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They have reigned, but not by me: they have been princes, and I knew not: of their silver, and their gold they have made idols to themselves, that they might perish.
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Kings a many, and with no warrant from me; princes a many, that were none of my choosing; idols a many, of their own gold and silver minted; here is cause enough for their undoing.


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Confraternity Text (1961):

Osee (Hosea) 8:4 

They made kings, but not by me; they established princes, but without my approval. With their silver and gold they made idols for themselves, to their own destruction. 

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Re: Biblical Prophecies that forecast the Conciliar Rebellion/Apostasy
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2023, 07:14:26 AM »
Osee (Hosea) 3:4

Vulgate                                                                                              Douay Rheims                                                                               Knox Version


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Quia dies multos sedebunt filii Israël sine rege, et sine principe, et sine sacrificio, et sine altari, et sine ephod, et sine theraphim.
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For the children of Israel shall sit many days without king, and without prince, and without sacrifice, and without altar, and without ephod, and without theraphim.
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A long time the sons of Israel must wait, neither king nor prince to rule them, neither sacrifice nor shrine to worship at, neither sacred mantle nor their own images to consult.


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Re: Biblical Prophecies that forecast the Conciliar Rebellion/Apostasy
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2023, 09:54:25 AM »
Isaiah 22:20-25


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Et erit in die illa: vocabo servum meum Eliacim, filium Helciæ,
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And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will call my servant Eliacim the son of Helcias,
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And when that time comes, I will summon one who is a true servant of mine, Eliacim the son of Helcias,
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et induam illum tunica tua, et cingulo tuo confortabo eum, et potestatem tuam dabo in manu ejus; et erit quasi pater habitantibus Jerusalem et domui Juda.
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And I will clothe him with thy robe, and will strengthen him with thy girdle, and will give thy power into his hand: and he shall be as a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Juda.
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clothe him with thy robe, gird him with thy girdle, entrust him with the power that once was thine; to rule all the citizens of Jerusalem, all Juda’s race, with a father’s care.
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Et dabo clavem domus David super humerum ejus; et aperiet, et non erit qui claudat; et claudet, et non erit qui aperiat.
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And I will lay the key of the house of David upon his shoulder: and he shall open, and none shall shut: and he shall shut, and none shall open.
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I will give him the key of David’s house to bear upon his shoulders; none may shut when he opens, none open when he shuts.
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Et figam illum paxillum in loco fideli, et erit in solium gloriæ domui patris ejus.
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And I will fasten him as a peg in a sure place, and he shall be for a throne of glory to the house of his father.
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I will fix him securely in his place, like a peg that is to carry all the royal honour of his father’s house;
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Et suspendent super eum omnem gloriam domus patris ejus; vasorum diversa genera, omne vas parvulum, a vasis craterarum usque ad omne vas musicorum.
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And they shall hang upon him all the glory of his father’s house, divers kinds of vessels, every little vessel, from the vessels of cups even to every instrument of music.
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all the honour of his father’s house will rest upon him, as a man’s goods rest on a peg, the smaller of them, here a cooking-pan, there an instrument of music.
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In die illa, dicit Dominus exercituum, auferetur paxillus qui fixus fuerat in loco fideli, et frangetur, et cadet, et peribit quod pependerat in eo, quia Dominus locutus est.
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In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, shall the peg be removed, that was fastened in the sure place: and it shall be broken and shall fall: and that which hung thereon, shall perish, because the Lord hath spoken it.
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A day is coming, says the Lord of hosts, when the peg that was once securely fixed will be dislodged from its place; suddenly it must break and fall, and all that hung from it be ruined; the Lord decrees it.



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