Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed  (Read 1003 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Matthew

  • Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 31226
  • Reputation: +27140/-495
  • Gender: Male
Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
« on: April 12, 2024, 06:15:51 PM »
  • Thanks!2
  • No Thanks!0
  • I can't believe how they repeat a lie early and often, to try to convince us it's true.

    "Lie big or go home!" is their philosophy. Most good people, who can't conceive of such satanic boldness, assume they CAN'T POSSIBLY be lying about something so fundamental -- that they would never lie that BIG.  ...Would they?

    They would.

    Look at the picture on the bottom. That is REALITY. You can do it yourself, at home, in a minute or two. Just get a light source, a ball of some kind, and a globe. Read 'em and weep.

    I understand they can't prove gravity at small scale, or "molecules to man" evolution, or random chance creating information/new features in a creature, or pressurized air without a container, the motion of the earth, the curvature of the earth, etc. Most of the Globe Earth model they can't prove at all. They basically say "trust us!".

    But THIS is merely the behavior of light, spheres, bodies, basic physics. This SHOULD be demonstrable at small scale. This should take up little space or materials, it should be very cheap and easy to demonstrate. They should be able to SHOW US this with actual, physical models and lights. Not a CGI cartoon where they could have anything happen -- why not have a basic, physical model set up to demonstrate this alleged behavior?

    Nowhere in human experience or reality do 2 bodies and a light source cast pin-point focused shadows like this. As a matter of fact, the exact OPPOSITE happens. The shadow would spread out with increased distance. So the further the "earth" was behind the moon, the LARGER the moon's shadow cast on the earth would be.

    This is all made-up nonsense to salvage the Globe model. People are SO trusting of authorities! They distrust their own senses, and trust some liars who have been proven to lie again, and again, and again. It's sad.
    Want to say "thank you"? 
    You can send me a gift from my Amazon wishlist!
    https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

    Paypal donations: matthew@chantcd.com


    Offline Matthew

    • Mod
    • *****
    • Posts: 31226
    • Reputation: +27140/-495
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #1 on: April 12, 2024, 07:04:49 PM »
  • Thanks!2
  • No Thanks!0
  • These few are apropos.

    Do you get it yet? This isn't about "trusting" Flat Earthers. This isn't something you can fake. Something anyone can observe, in reality, with common sense, CAN'T BE FAKED or a hoax.

    A shadow can never be smaller than the object casting the shadow. Larger, yes. But when the obscuring object (e.g., the moon) is right up against the surface being "shadowed" -- as far from the light source as you're going to get -- it's always 1:1. Try it yourself.

    All Flat Earthers are doing is playing the role of the little boy who said, "The Emperor hasn't on any clothes at all!" You can call him names -- but how about debunk what he's saying? It's clear that the Emperor is buck naked. The little boy is right.
    Want to say "thank you"? 
    You can send me a gift from my Amazon wishlist!
    https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

    Paypal donations: matthew@chantcd.com


    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 41969
    • Reputation: +24005/-4345
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #2 on: April 12, 2024, 08:09:19 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • That one about the angle of the sun's rays is absolutely conclusive for me.  By the time the sun's light reaches the earth, it would be about 99.99% parallel (or something like that, as I've looked it up).  Also, if the sun's rays were coming in at an angle, that would invalidate the highly-vaunted Eratosthenes experiment.  But the globers like to maintain both contradictory theses at the same time, yet another example of their intellectual dishonesty.

    If the sun's rays come in parallel, as heliocentric globe earth math requires, the shadow of the moon would be roughly the size of North America (as models demonstrate).

    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 41969
    • Reputation: +24005/-4345
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #3 on: April 12, 2024, 08:13:07 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Also, eclipses absolutely should NOT move from West to East, but rather from East to West, on the heliocentric globe model.  They should move from West to East on an FE model, however.  Quo keeps bloviating about the lack of an FE "model" ... except that the evidence and observations fit better with an FE model while invalidating the globe model.

    Offline St Giles

    • Supporter
    • ***
    • Posts: 849
    • Reputation: +381/-65
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #4 on: April 12, 2024, 09:11:26 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Lots wrong with these posts, but I think the quickest and easiest to point out is the picture of a model eclipse experiment with model moon, flashlight and model globe. So... the moon is only 2 lunar diameters distant from the earth? So much for intellectual honesty. 
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
    "Seek first the kingdom of Heaven..."
    "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment"


    Offline St Giles

    • Supporter
    • ***
    • Posts: 849
    • Reputation: +381/-65
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #5 on: April 12, 2024, 09:15:57 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Ok, I'll entertain another regarding the "eclipse reality vs nonsense png."

    That's equivalent to flat earthers calling the earth flat while it's covered in hills and mountains.
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
    "Seek first the kingdom of Heaven..."
    "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment"

    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 41969
    • Reputation: +24005/-4345
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #6 on: April 12, 2024, 09:25:59 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • That's equivalent to flat earthers calling the earth flat while it's covered in hills and mountains.

    :facepalm:  You know what we mean by the earth being flat (i.e. oppose to a sphere, not that it's absolutely flat).

    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 41969
    • Reputation: +24005/-4345
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #7 on: April 12, 2024, 09:31:39 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Lots wrong with these posts, but I think the quickest and easiest to point out is the picture of a model eclipse experiment with model moon, flashlight and model globe. So... the moon is only 2 lunar diameters distant from the earth? So much for intellectual honesty.

    OK, that picture isn't the best, but I've seen models done to scale, and the result was that the entirety of North America (where it was pointed during the demonstration) was covered in darkness.

    But the elephant in the room here is that scientific establishment realize there's a problem with the shadow being this narrow, and that's why they've released those pictures that depict the sun as being several times larger than the earth, and then draw the rays pointing inward.  You talk about the FE memes being wrong, but this is utterly ridiculous.  In point of fact, the two are the same size from the perspective of the earth (given the distances involved).  So if the scale of the FE picture is wrong, how about the scale on that stupid picture (posted by NASA)?  Also, it's well known (and the math proves it) that the sun's rays are effectively parallel by the time they reach earth (and also the moon) ... deviating from one end of earth to the other by a tiny fraction of a degree.  So why do they post that stupid picture and come up with the absurd explanation that the sun's rays point inward from the edges of the sun?  Please explain.  On top of that, if the sun's rays come in at an angle, that would invalidate Eratosthenes experiment, which assumed as a premise that the sun was very large and very far away, so that the sun's rays were effectively parallel by the time they reached earth.


    Offline St Giles

    • Supporter
    • ***
    • Posts: 849
    • Reputation: +381/-65
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #8 on: April 12, 2024, 09:32:49 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0

  • But you don't know what we mean? The sun's rays are practically parallel. Anyone capable of reasoning can determine that the sun's rays are both not perfectly parallel, and are quite divergent unlike laser beams, which again are not perfectly straight beams like most people think, but are somewhat divergent as well, just on such a small scale that it isn't noticed that the dot is getting much larger because perspective counters the apparent size increase with distance.
    :facepalm:  You know what we mean by the earth being flat (i.e. oppose to a sphere, not that it's absolutely flat).
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
    "Seek first the kingdom of Heaven..."
    "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment"

    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 41969
    • Reputation: +24005/-4345
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #9 on: April 12, 2024, 09:34:56 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • This is on NASA's website ... and is a complete joke.  No, the sun is not 5-10 times bigger (from the perspective of earth) than the moon so that it's rays come in at an angle.  And you talk about the FE pictures being not to scale?  This is to the point of being laughable.


    Offline St Giles

    • Supporter
    • ***
    • Posts: 849
    • Reputation: +381/-65
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #10 on: April 12, 2024, 09:37:25 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • OK, that picture isn't the best, but I've seen models done to scale, and the result was that the entirety of North America (where it was pointed during the demonstration) was covered in darkness.
    Yep, and just how much of the country was included in some part of the shadow? In other words, from where all could a partial eclipse of some extent be seen? I'm guessing most of the country without looking it up.
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
    "Seek first the kingdom of Heaven..."
    "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment"


    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 41969
    • Reputation: +24005/-4345
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #11 on: April 12, 2024, 09:39:18 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Point made by this picture, despite the scale, stands ...


    Offline St Giles

    • Supporter
    • ***
    • Posts: 849
    • Reputation: +381/-65
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #12 on: April 12, 2024, 09:39:47 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • This is on NASA's website ... and is a complete joke.  No, the sun is not 5-10 times bigger (from the perspective of earth) than the moon so that it's rays come in at an angle.  And you talk about the FE pictures being not to scale?  This is to the point of being laughable.


    Put your glasses on, it says not drawn to scale.
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
    "Seek first the kingdom of Heaven..."
    "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment"

    Offline St Giles

    • Supporter
    • ***
    • Posts: 849
    • Reputation: +381/-65
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #13 on: April 12, 2024, 09:40:52 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Point made by this picture, despite the scale, stands ...


    Refuted
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
    "Seek first the kingdom of Heaven..."
    "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment"

    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 41969
    • Reputation: +24005/-4345
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Moon shadow laser NONSENSE - Flat Earth confirmed
    « Reply #14 on: April 12, 2024, 09:41:09 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Yep, and just how much of the country was included in some part of the shadow? In other words, from where all could a partial eclipse of some extent be seen? I'm guessing most of the country without looking it up.

    No, the question is that without the bogus NASA picture showing rays coming at an angle, you can't explain the small path of TOTALITY.